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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to wonder what the deal is with my DF and Christmas?

11 replies

toodleloooo · 05/12/2020 09:15

DP and I have been together for 10 odd years but so far have never spent Christmas together. We met at uni and back then it made sense to go back to our parents for the holidays, as it also did for the few years after when we lived in small city flats.

However, we got our own house a few years ago, and since then, DP has made vague noises about hosting it here. The house is close to his parents so it would be neat way for everyone to be in one place for the period.

Last year when the house was more ready for hosting I put that to my parents. My DF seemed perplexed by the idea and eventually said: "I don't really see why the usual arrangement would change unless/until you and DP have a child, in which case you might want to do your own thing. It's quite normal for children to see their parents for Christmas". He said he had no problem with DP coming with me.

I was a bit shocked at that. I really enjoy Christmas with them but there is nothing really that couldn't be replicated over here. It's always quite a low-key affair and the main thing is being together. After mulling it over with DP and no signs of my DF budging I agreed just I would go as usual, but I said particularly with DP and I getting married this year it would be nice to look at them coming here in the future. DF seemed to accept that and later on in my stay started asking (in a nice way) about what we'd like to do when we host at ours, what traditions we might start etc.

Fast forward to this year! We haven't been able to see my parents much because of the virus. DP and I agreed together we would be happy to isolate for two weeks and then host my parents here. This year their house is off the cards as our car is out of action and I don't think I can sit on a train for a couple of hours and maybe bring them the virus. DP said he wouldn't see his parents while mine were here - at most he'd maybe sit in their garden at a distance - which I thought was very good of him.

We put it to my parents this week that we should probably start thinking about Christmas and we were thinking of the above plan. DM told me privately that she was on board and would just really like to spend time together. DF told me we had sprung the idea of Christmas on them too early without them having had a chance to think! (We've already had our tree up for a week - not sure about you all Grin). I said I'd give them some time but my DM told me she thinks it's unlikely he'll agree as she thinks he wants to feel control over the period. In another conversation later this week he said maybe they'd come for one day but not stay the night.

AIBU to not really understand his position and think it's a real shame, particularly when we've seen each other so little this year? He's happily stayed over at ours at other times in the past, so I don't think it's an overnight thing. I also have a sibling who's been able to do their own thing for a fair few years now without comment from him!

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/12/2020 09:42

Your DM has told you, it's a control thing. Your sibling has chosen to ignore it, you are still in the adult/child frame of mind. If you follow your sibling's example you'll find it gets easier to do what you want and to ignore your DFs control.

Maybe invite your DM and tell your DF he's welcome to come with her ☺️

LouiseTrees · 05/12/2020 09:50

Well tell him it’s either you host or you do something just for you and your DP as you have no transport to get to them. Tell them you won’t have them driving hours and hours to collect and drop you off , which is the only other alternative you’d accept on how to get there.

toodleloooo · 05/12/2020 10:04

Thank you, both!

@CuriousaboutSamphire you are right of course but I'm not sure I'd be ready for the repercussions. Generally we get on very well and he can be very straightforward and easy to deal with, but certain issues like this just catch you out of the blue and he can harbour resentment for absolute years. It's baffling. Unfortunately my DM doesn't drive so it would be difficult for her to get here without him and without going on a train which is probably too risky at the moment. I just really don't get the control aspect - what does he get from it at this point in his life? Surely he'd rather we're together?

@LouiseTrees I did put it to them that the only real option for us to meet this year was them coming here (and was actually quite looking forward to it being a way to transition into hosting here). But the response was that they'll probably only come for a day instead! That just seems such a shame, particularly for my DM.

Sorry for the length of my OP by the way! Only realised when I posted. TL;DR - why does my DF still expect me to visit for Christmas and refuses to come here?

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KittenCalledBob · 05/12/2020 10:11

People can get very set in their ways as they get older OP. Your dad probably thinks that what you did was working perfectly ok before, why fix it. He maybe thinks of you still as a child who isn’t capable of hosting Christmas in your own home!

Don’t worry too much. Say “that would be lovely” when he mentions coming only for the day. Don’t try and and convince him - he probably needs to feel that he’s made the decision, rather than been convinced by you. It’s him who’ll suffer if they only come for a day (who wants to spend hours and hours driving on Christmas Day?) so it seems to me very likely that he’ll change his mind nearer the time. Let him come to the idea gradually.

CaptainMerica · 05/12/2020 10:25

I think my family are a bit like this. My DPs have always spent Xmas in their own home. Now I have kids, I do the same. My siblings likewise. We tend to visit before or after Xmas day.

I have never invited them to mine for xmas day, as I know my DF would hate it. And that's fine.

toodleloooo · 05/12/2020 10:27

Thanks @KittenCalledBob! I hope it's not the end of the matter, but actually he's not interested in coming up on the day - he's thinking the 23rd. I think I'd understand a bit better if it were the day itself but it seems he's planning to swerve it entirely! That introduces another issue which is that if they want to come inside we probably need to isolate for two weeks, which means starting early next week. DP said he'll do it if they are really keen to come inside but he's a bit miffed to do it for just one day.

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Heyahun · 05/12/2020 10:50

Oh gawd is just leave it! He needs to stop getting his way all the time - we had to do this with my mil - husband and I always separated for Xmas like you guys - married now 2 years - first year we were married we skipped Christmas and went on holiday!

Last year we went home and we thought we’d spend Xmas eve and day with my family and head to his mums in the evening and spend the next 2 days there - well she went mad and said to not bother coming we had obviously chosen my family over his..we came anyway and she didn’t speak to us for ages was in such a huff Like a child 😂

This year we just said we aren’t going to anyone’s house just staying in our own at our place.

And I think we will just always suit ourselves going forward - don’t fancy getting stuck in a never ending loop of alternating bloody Christmas tbh

Your dad is being ridiculous-he needs to stop getting his way essentially - if he doesn’t want to come to you he can stay home just the 2 of them see how he feels about that

Nanny1Nanny2 · 05/12/2020 11:45

Do you really need to isolate for 2 weeks ?

Will your parents be isolating for 2 weeks too ?

The virus rules are very confusing

What happens to people that cannot self isolate & have to go out for education, work, caring responsibilities etc

PurpleFrames · 05/12/2020 11:52

Could you drive your mum back after Christmas if your dad leaves with the car (or however he travels), on 23rd eve?

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 05/12/2020 11:55

I do think people get set in their ways as they get older. They feel less comfortable in other peoples homes.

I'd message him again and say as a married couple in your own house it would actually mean a lot for you to host them at yours on christmas day and this doesnt mean that it's got to be like this every year but you're excited to do it for the first time. And ask your mum if she can speak to him to find out if there is any specific reason he doeant want to come or anything you can do to make him more comfortable. I found out after lots of visits to ours that my dad didnt like the fact that we didnt have a bedside table and my mum didnt like the fact we didnt have a clock in the room and also they were too cold!

lanthanum · 05/12/2020 12:32

@Nanny1Nanny2

Do you really need to isolate for 2 weeks ?

Will your parents be isolating for 2 weeks too ?

The virus rules are very confusing

What happens to people that cannot self isolate & have to go out for education, work, caring responsibilities etc

There's no rule about needing to isolate for 2 weeks before meeting up, and many people cannot. However for those who are able to, it does reduce the risk, so many of those people will choose to. Some people have annual leave to use up anyway, given the year we've had.
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