Why the hate for Elf and lights and all things Christmassy?

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Seen a couple threads re this and the utter bile directed at these subjects is just beyond! You don't want Xmas lights all over your house?? Fine! Don't do it! You don't like Elf on a shelf? Don't do it!! Your don't wanna put your Christmas tree early? Don't! It really is just that simple! Why the outrage? Not your electric bill not your monkeys! Who gives a fuck?

I don’t like it because I see it as the US culture of waste, individualism and consumerism creeping into the UK. I also think it’s paired with the dumbing down of society where ignorance is celebrated.
The film The grinch explains it well, you can have a lovely Christmas with love and joy without pointless plastic being sent to landfill and without competing with your friends and neighbours.

If you’ve read those threads then you should be able to understand why some people don’t like them !
The lights keep some people awake , the elves make some children sad / confused because they don’t have them ..
If you’re allowed to moan about this subject then so are they !
If this subject annoys you then take your own advice and DON’T READ THE FUCKING THREADS

@Fluffybutter you ok ? Difference is this thread hasn't turned into some sort of class bitchfest .

[quote glitterelf]@Fluffybutter you ok ? Difference is this thread hasn't turned into some sort of class bitchfest .[/quote]
No not really .
But I am so fed up of all the threads about threads .
Who really cares one way or the other ?
I’ll admit I need to step away from forums for a while .

@Fluffybutter It's really easy to get wound up over non issues I guess it's takes people away from whatever else is going on in their lives, like a bit of respite from reality. I know I'm guilty of it myself at times. Please take care of yourself

Of course it's for the parents. Dc grow up so fast why not indulge them. I personally love looking at people with younger dc in matching Christmas jumpers, tree lights, presents pile etc.
I tend to ignore the joy sucking threads/angry for nothing people.

I don’t like it because I see it as the US culture of waste, individualism and consumerism creeping into the UK. I also think it’s paired with the dumbing down of society where ignorance is celebrated.

I wish some posters would stop blaming US culture for everything they don’t like that is also done in the other U.K. countries. I also find it interesting such posters moan about US culture creeping yet forget their own historical past. Why is there 54 Commonwealth countries again?

It makes no difference if some people are posting their elf pictures all over Facebook as the people who do this would be posting random crap pictures anyway and it is just another way for them to get likes.

Plus you control what you see on your social media so if you don’t like it then remove or block the offenders.

My children are grown now and so elf on a shelf has never been part of our Christmas but if someone else gets enjoyment for their kids out of it then crack on.

[quote glitterelf]@Fluffybutter It's really easy to get wound up over non issues I guess it's takes people away from whatever else is going on in their lives, like a bit of respite from reality. I know I'm guilty of it myself at times. Please take care of yourself [/quote]
Thank you .
Appreciate it x

Never had Elf on the Shelf or heard of it until I moved to England and find it a bit bizarre. Humorous sometimes, but still bizarre. Thought it was like the shoemaker’s elves before it was explained to me.

I don’t mind Christmas, I just get tired of hearing about it for months. Every year it gets earlier and even the day after Christmas adverts start for saving for next Christmas. Didn’t see adverts the day after Christmas for saving in the States either only about sale until New Years and that was it.

Why does Christmas need to be mentioned before summer is even over? By time Christmas is here, I’m already bored of it.

Why does Christmas need to be mentioned before summer is even over? By time Christmas is here, I’m already bored of it.

Maybe MN could create a special section where all things Christmas can be discussed without the rest of us having to hear about it for 6 months in excruciating detail. Then we could hide that section and not have to be bombarded by it.

Oh.....wait........

Maybe MN could create a special section where all things Christmas can be discussed without the rest of us having to hear about it for 6 months in excruciating detail. Then we could hide that section and not have to be bombarded by it.

I didn’t know that section existed nor do I go there, but thank you for letting me know where to not go.. I’m also talking about real life as well.

I couldn’t care less who does it but I don’t like that it takes up all my fb news feed for the entirety of December.

Neither of my kids like EOTS so tell me not to do it. This makes me breathe a sigh of relief to be honest.

We have an elf but don't post on social media. Tempted to start now just to annoy people.

I've gone a bit OTT tbh with Xmas lights and tat this year. The front of my house looks like the Griswalds However, it isn't to show off or compete on social media, as I give no effs about that stuff, it's purely to spread some cheer for the kids, not just mine but everyone who passes by. As for all the new 'traditions' I do think it's caused by social media and competitive xmassing parenting. But anyway I don't care, as long as the kids get excited and are happy.

I don't care what other people do, but its this need to splash it all over social media that bugs me. The latest I have seen is a 'North Pole Breakfast'. Which was just basically a massive sugar fest. I mean yea, if thats what you want to do, fine. But don't stealth brag on SM, and make other parents feel like they aren't doing enough for their children. Just fuck off with all that.

I don't see the point in covering your house in lights. You're inside and can't see them, you're just inflicting them on others.

If I think starting Christmas in fuckjng November, elf on the shelf, Christmas jumpers, over decorated tacky houses, Christmas Eve boxes, matching Christmas PJs, Christmas fucking duvet sets and cushions and all the overdoing it, over commercialised crap that has started to infiltrate over the past few years is a joyless pile of shit that completely misses the point of Christmas and is for people who can't seem to find the joy in the simple stuff alone I am allowed to say so on a public forum. If you don't want differing opinions, don't post here. Or read it.

Yes, I judge. I judge this just as I judge many many other things that people do, all the time. We all do.

I didn’t know that section existed nor do I go there, but thank you for letting me know where to not go.. I’m also talking about real life as well.

I wish we could hide topics in real life too

In the good old pre-virus* days when we could actually have people to visit, I would make it clear that certain topics were banned from being discussed!

*there's a whole topic for Coronavirus too (with a lot of Christmas crossover!)

What makes me laugh is people actually get jealous and normally that’s why they comment so negatively, instead of looking at it and just rolling their eyes and not finding the energy to comment on something that means nothing. Clearly it brings out some emotion.
Whereas I find the idea on Mumsnet that anyone who has a negative opinion about something must be jealous to be a bizarre sense of self-obsession. I can't imagine my response to someone expressing an opinion on something I do with DC being 'oooh they are only say that because they must be jealous of me... I'm so awesome that they couldn't have an opinion about an activity, nope they are clearly super envious of what an amazing life I lead. They must be jealous because being jealous is the only possible reason they'd express their opinion'.

The jealousy argument comes up all the time on here across a range of topics. I can't help but think it must be hard work going through life genuinely believing everyone is jealous of you.

Don't! It really is just that simple! Why the outrage?

OP, I agree. I guess it's people/posters need to judge and regulate other people's behavior that is the drive.

Nothing better than judging others 🤷‍♀️.

We do elf because it seemed like quite a fun idea at the time. I don't post on social media about it and I don't really mention it to anyone else as it's just not that interesting to anyone other than our DC. I wish I'd never started with the fecker, the DC look forward to it every year even though they're old enough to know better, I'm sick of running downstairs in the middle of the night because I've forgotten to pose the little shit for the morning but it makes them happy and that's a good thing.

We choose what we do and don't do. So we don't do Christmas Eve boxes etc and I get really annoyed at schools doing Christmas jumper days where I have to spend money at a time when I can ill afford it on a jumper that will be worn once, max twice before it is outgrown, and even then not for a whole day "because it's too hot".

I can understand the elf hate but I think it's probably a misdirected hatred of social media and general narcissism.

Why not be a rebel and say no to the commercialism? If you enjoy the holiday for the peace, the religious or spiritualism then great. If you see it as celebrating as the start of the end of the long dark nights then enjoy it for that and laugh at all the saddos spending to try to alleviate their lack of insight.

Don't like the elf, like everything else

I'm no fan of the Elf, and it's tedious seeing various elves' escapades each year.

I'm wearing my Christmas jumper. I was cold and fed up and wanted to put something cosy and cheery on. I may as well get the use out of it for 12th of the year. DS2 likes them and wears them whenever he likes. DS1 doesn't, but sometimes he wears t-shirts.

Chrustmas lights are lovely for lighting up the shortest days of the year. Unless they're on critical emergency (blue flashing) or rave on acid settings (everything going 3x faster than is healthy)