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Feeling rubbish because I am a cleaner

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LAURAMINIMAQ88 · 30/11/2020 18:26

So...I am a young, educated woman and this year was very hard for our family so I had to take on a cleaning position which I didn't mind doing at first but now I feel absolutely rubbish because my friends and family make unpleasant comments about my new job.
I wouldn't mind ever as long as I am bringing a salary and paying my bills.
People where I work also look down on cleaners ( I clean offices) not all of them but I do get unpleasant looks..
The only support that I am getting is from my husband.
My husband works in airline industry and had been able to keep his hours through this horrible year however I have lost my contract 2 months ago so took on this job.

I dont know what I am looking for here, probably just a bit of support and to tell me that my job is also valued.

My parents in law said that I am too young to be a cleaner and it broke into pieces

OP posts:
moonpig23 · 30/11/2020 22:10

The is nothing wrong with an honest days work no matter what your job.

nevergoingoutagain · 30/11/2020 22:12

The cleaners in my school have literally kept us safe during this time. I value them hugely and always thank them when I see them.

My sister is a cleaner, she works harder than me during her working day!

BiggapTwins · 30/11/2020 22:13

Love yourself more! You and all other cleaners are champions! I had to clean out the Hire van today with my Fibro body - at times like that I appreciate the work done by cleaners even more. Taking pride in cleanliness and being meticulous is something to be respected!
Hold your head up high with a smile on your face. WinkGrinStar

Nobeautysleep · 30/11/2020 22:16

I actually think being a cleaner is a really tough job, especially at the moment with the dangers of covid never mind in normal times when people have such exacting standards.

At my work lots of people look down on the cleaning staff, however, they are worth their weight in gold. They’re also much nicer people than the snobs who look down on them. Not the same but I used to work in a kitchen and got similar responses. Ignore them and be proud you’re doing a valuable job and are working hard.

EmeraldShamrock · 30/11/2020 22:16

Don't feel rubbish they're talking rubbish. You never know with your drive you might set up your own company.
Is there options for private home cleaning. This is not your forever life you are doing this to support your family it takes balls.
There is a big market out there for reliable cleaning companies/persons.

jrb123 · 30/11/2020 22:31

I love my cleaner. She's the nicest, kindest, most hard-working person I know. When she started with me, nine years ago, her DP had just died in tragic circumstances and she was left on her own with two young DC to support. She now runs two cleaning companies and employs 20 local women. There is definitely money and a good career to be had out of cleaning if you want to look out for opportunities in that field. Good luck! Flowers

PigsInHeaven · 30/11/2020 22:31

What exactly are they saying?

I’m from a family of street cleaners and bin men. I have a DPhil, but never for a moment do I think that those jobs are anything other than crucial.

longwayoff · 30/11/2020 22:50

I'm sorry you've been made to feel bad about yourself. A good cleaner is beyond price and thank god for all of them. I'd part with a lot before I'd part with my cleaner, providing an absolutely essential service for me.

ElDanglo · 30/11/2020 22:56

I LOVE this thread! It backs up everything I ever knew from my own personal experience in the industry that cleaners are absolutely treasured and valued.

Thank you to everyone who values cleaners!

Bear65 · 30/11/2020 23:31

@Shouldershrugger

You're doing what needs to be done. That takes a lot of guts and sense of responsibility. The only ones that should be frowned upon are them idiots. Don't pay any heed to them.
Could not agree be more. Be proud that you put supporting you family first, your in-laws should count themselves lucky their grandchildren have a mother like you
Graphista · 01/12/2020 00:27

You absolutely should be proud of having a good honest job! That's more than many can say.

Several people I am close to are or have been cleaners, one friend is now the boss of her own company (having left school at 16 with no qualifications) and now employs many others to do same as you are cleaning commercial places, offices, call centres etc. She's often saying everyone THINKS they can do the job and not everyone CAN! She's had some people apply who clearly had an attitude about them regards cleaning and be all shocked when they were rejected. She says these types

1 tend to be shit cleaners

2 treat their colleagues like shit and cause bother

3 are unreliable and often "call in sick" etc

I couldn't do it now - not because it's "beneath me" cos I'd be shit at it! She and I have discussed this at length. I have ocd, contrary to certain tv shows  (seriously don't even get me started!) this doesn't necessarily mean this would be a good job for me! I couldn't do it because although the places I cleaned would be cleaned to an extremely high standard it'd take me bloody ages! Cos I can't just eg wipe a desk down, I'd take everything off it, wash it, disinfect it and polish it, and then I'd clean everything that was to go back on it, and the legs and the chair and it's legs and it's adjusting knobs etc etc it'd take me about 2 hours to clean one desk! There are also certain parts of the job that would be too anxiety inducing for me to do, I wouldn't be able to even touch other peoples bins for instance, I can't even walk near to bins on the street!

So I have HUGE respect for what you do and so should they!

What are your critics jobs? Qualifications?

In your position I'd be telling them to stop being such rude snobs to me and that I was proud to

1 have secured a good honest job in the current climate

2 prioritised your family's needs

3 found a job I am good at

4 am contributing to the health and safety of those office workers

5 not to be a snob like them!

Even family! Your dh I Hope is telling the in-laws to wind their necks in? And if not why not?

Your colleagues at the offices you need to perfect a Paddington stare/resting bitch face for them in return and maybe learn some ways from other cleaners in how to deal with people like that?

You're doing fantastic!

I hold 2 degrees, a number of vocational qualifications, and am currently unemployed due to ill health at the moment. Mainly but not only the ocd. In my time I've worked in factories (on the production line), retail shop floor, hospitality (Dish washing, waitressing, bar work etc) and I've done these kind of jobs before and after (and during!) getting my degrees too.

You do what you have to do to earn when you're able to work. Actually looking back those were the jobs I got along best with my colleagues and while the work was physically demanding it was also low stress, very satisfying to have clear "goals" and meet them, and actually lots of fun had with my colleagues both in and out of work, several of whom I'm still in touch with. Other jobs I've had that were treated as "higher status" were boring, stressful, poorly defined, and the "office politics" stuff was a royal pita!

They would say the same if you were to become a bin lady ..... but the first to complain when their bins weren't emptied

Exactly!

My parents raised us that NOBODY is above or below anyone else! Not really! We're all conceived and born the same way, all die alone essentially and we all poop! We ALL make mess that needs cleaning up by SOMEBODY!

I'm willing to bet your critics would absolutely be the FIRST to complain if the cleaners at their workplaces disappeared! They'd certainly be moany arses if they had to empty their own bins, and clean their desks etc!

@ScrapThatThen I LOVED factory work! Fed into the best parts of my ocd (precision, accurate counting, attention to detail) loads of good natured "banter" (in the friendly sense), radio on and we'd even singalong sometimes especially this time of year with the Xmas songs, there'd be tinsel etc on the rafters... I have very happy memories of being a factory worker. Sadly it was the low pay meant I really needed to go for something with a "higher status". Where I was living then the rents were high, if I could have afforded to stay in those jobs I probably would have.

Let me tell you who the real hero's of the nhs are - the cleaning staff!

Totally agree I'm also an ex nurse and good cleaners are absolutely crucial in medical settings. I left the nhs around the time the cost cutting measures included ending the contracts with the specialised medical cleaning companies and hiring "regular" cleaning companies instead - that massively backfired as my mentors and myself and others predicted. This was the time when there was the explosion of hospital acquired infections and associated scandals. The cleaning wasn't the only factor but it was certainly a major one in my opinion. Not the fault of the "regular" cleaners they simply hadn't been trained and weren't being resourced well enough (there were also things like what cleaning fluids were used were changed to cheaper less effective products!) to do the job properly. A good example I think of just how important cleaners are.

You're doing an amazing and valuable job! Star

badacorn · 01/12/2020 00:54

Ignore the snobby bastards. Cleaning is important. Keep going op.

DressingGownofDoom · 01/12/2020 01:03

Cleaners near me charge £14 an hour, loads more than I get. It's a valuable job and you can hold your head high OP.

aintnothinbutagstring · 01/12/2020 01:16

The same people looking down on you would be the first to complain if the cleaners did not turn up. Give those snobs a squirt in the face with some D10 or something

RayOfSunshine2013 · 01/12/2020 01:19

I’m a paramedic but for a private company, as soon as they found out I was pregnant I was stopped from working until after maternity which consequently will only be up to one month off.

I had to take on a job in a supermarket. My wage was more than quartered, but it pays the bills. I’d do anything to earn and pay my way than ever walk into a job centre to sign on for the freebies.

the80sweregreat · 01/12/2020 14:32

Cleaners are so important for everything.
Especially with this virus about as well.

contrmary · 01/12/2020 14:42

Don't feel bad about having to take a cleaning job to keep the bills paid. This is a very tough time economically, but things will get better. Just keep telling yourself "it's not forever" and that something else will come along.

Hopeisnotastrategy · 01/12/2020 14:46

We love and respect our housekeeper, she is worth her weight in gold. Other people being nasty says far more about them than you, hold your head up high and enjoy the self respect you deserve for looking after your family and paying your way. x

Cocomarine · 01/12/2020 14:50

It’s lovely to see the respect for cleaners on here!

But you know, even if it were a completely unnecessary job with no real worth at all... your in laws would still be arseholes, because you are working to provide for yourself and your family. I can’t say this strongly enough: FUCK THEM

LAURAMINIMAQ88 · 01/12/2020 19:07

Oh dear ! I did not expect such amazing responses ! You guys are all amazing and I had time, I would reply to each of you .
Thank you so much.
You made me feel so much better and I will be coming back to these messages to remind myself on bad days .
Love you all Flowers Flowers

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listsandbudgets · 01/12/2020 20:28

This is taken from Hitch HIkers Guide to the Galaxy. Read it through and replace "telephone sanatisers" with "cleaners" and then see how you feel about your job. Just because some people are stupid enough to look down on it it does not mean its not important and essential

"These tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people who made things and did things, and the B Ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitisers. They sent the B ship off first, but of course, the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone."

Meraas · 01/12/2020 20:33

I'm sorry you're getting unpleasant looks but glad this thread has cheered you up. As someone who cleans my own house all the time and also my mum's since COVID times, I have nothing but respect for cleaners do it for a living. It's hard work and I actually take pleasure in bringing order to a messy house so I can see why many cleaners love their job too. At my workplace, cleaners are treated with nothing but respect. I'm sorry you're working somewhere where some people don't appreciate you.

Ivy455 · 01/12/2020 21:09

Good for you for getting out there and getting a job. I did cleaning at a hotel for my work experience and it was bloody hard work. All jobs are important. I can't stand people who look down on others for their job.

Calmate · 01/12/2020 21:15

OP, thankyou for the update, I'm glad the response helped. I've already commented upthread, but can I just mention something else about cleaners?
I've noticed some office cleaners (or commercial cleaners, to give the official title!) negotiate extra money for themselves by taking the office tea towels home to clean, but some of us do it for no extra, just because it makes our job easier. That's paying for your own hot water and laundry detergent out of what is usually the minimum wage of £8.72 per hour, so the office workers have clean tea towels in the kitchen, and they go home thinking the fairies perform this service! Are you reading this, office/facilities managers? Get a professional laundry service to do your dirty washing, not the cleaners, as they do enough for the minium wage.

Frazzledme · 01/12/2020 21:29

Well you deserve better, but it's so hard to get flexible/part time work and if you need to clean to pay the bills then that's what you need to do. It doesn't make you lesser than anyone. People don't always understand the realities. You hold your head up and if anyone thinks otherwise it reflects more on them than you.