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To be thinking I might move to rep of Ireland?

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headcandygrl · 27/11/2020 15:41

Aibu to think of moving to Ireland?
I am fed up of the lack of jobs here in the U.K.!
There seems to be (from the little research I have done) more benefits there (child benefit is WAY more!) , better job opportunities, less of an effect on jobs due to Covid. I have seen on here that they don't pay council tax! No water bills either. As far as I can see they pay slightly more tax! So it kind of evens out! But wages are better...
The education system there doesn't seem to pigeonhole children for a young age! They don't have to pass GCSE equivalents to do the A LEVEL equivalent...
University costs are less!! They have a grant system that is not paid back!!

Am I looking over with rose tinted glasses?? Is this the reality?? Anyone in Ireland who can clarify details for me?

Now I know they don't have an NHS like ours but from what I can see it is somewhat free for those that need it!!?

OP posts:
HaggisBurger · 27/11/2020 22:22

There are bus loads of young professionals leaving Newry every morning at 7am for their jobs in central Dublin who would beg to disagree .... (pre-Covid of course)

Though I’d certainly agree it’s bloody miserable

HaggisBurger · 27/11/2020 22:22

That was supposed to be quoting someone who said no way did anyone commute daily from NI to Dublin. Quote fail

Heyahun · 27/11/2020 22:27

You could definitely do it @HaggisBurger

I wouldn’t bloody do that commute though - nor would I want to live in Newry tbh

But yes it is indeed doable it that’s what the op wants to do

VestaTilley · 27/11/2020 22:49

Firstly, can you just move there? Not sure you can now we’ve left the EU.

Also, did you know you have to pay for GP appointments there? Their health care system isn’t free. One of many things to think about.

Also, I think you’re bang out of order wanting to go to another country that you haven’t paid any tax in to claim their child benefit! You’ve got a nerve.

Heyahun · 27/11/2020 22:56

People from the U.K. can move to Ireland no problem same as Irish people can move to the U.K. - we have a separate arrangement - how do So many people not know this 😂

headcandygrl · 27/11/2020 22:59

@VestaTilley
1.Yes we can as there is an agreement between the U.K. and Ireland but as I said in the thread my dh is Irish.

  1. Yes I am aware of that and yet again as I stated upthread...I intend on getting health insurance.
  1. I have also stated that if we move we would BOTH be working!! OR would you rather we moved to Ireland and worked there but continued to claim child benefit in the U.K.?? ConfusedHmm
OP posts:
Mishmased · 27/11/2020 22:59

@HaggisBurger

That was supposed to be quoting someone who said no way did anyone commute daily from NI to Dublin. Quote fail
@HaggisBurger that was me. Absolute madness to do that commute. You'd be 3 hours on the road each day depending on if you're going to North Dublin. If you're heading south on the M50 that would be suicide imo!
DramaAlpaca · 27/11/2020 23:04

I'm English, have lived in Ireland (Munster) for over 20 years. I've never had the least bit of difficulty being English here. Maybe it's because I quickly drop the fact that DH is Irish into the conversation Wink but I feel I fit in. My in-laws have taught me well. I've no intention of going back.

I wonder if OP realises how culturally different Ireland is to the UK. It's not just a smaller country where English is spoken, everything is different.

It's very expensive here. I'm always surprised when I go home to England to find how cheap it is in comparison. Everything - rent, groceries, banking, primary & secondary education, healthcare, refuse services, transport, insurance... you name it, it's dearer in Ireland.

That said, I've no regrets at all. I agreed to give it two years and I'm still here.

EmeraldShamrock · 27/11/2020 23:43

If you love jacket potatoes, chipped potatoes, mashed potatoes, dauphinoise potatoes, potato bubble and squeak, new potatoes, boiled potatoes, hash-browns, potato boxty or potato farl then this is the world for you OP. You will love how to make the most of everything you have

^This is what Ireland does. It makes people who make communities^

You're first paragraph got me aroused then hungry hash browns yummy just popped 2 in the oven.

OchonAgusOchonO · 28/11/2020 00:06

Also, I think you’re bang out of order wanting to go to another country that you haven’t paid any tax in to claim their child benefit! You’ve got a nerve.

What a bizarre statement. Anyone living here is paying tax, whether it be income tax or VAT. Anyone living here is entitled to claim child benefit

HardlyEver · 28/11/2020 00:24

@OchonAgusOchonO

Also, I think you’re bang out of order wanting to go to another country that you haven’t paid any tax in to claim their child benefit! You’ve got a nerve.

What a bizarre statement. Anyone living here is paying tax, whether it be income tax or VAT. Anyone living here is entitled to claim child benefit

While that’s entirely true, I noticed a huge crossover between people who proudly informed me that that they’d voted for Brexit to ‘take back control of our borders’ and the ones who informed me they’d just applied for an Irish passport. I think I was supposed to be impressed with their savour-faire.
HollyCarrot · 28/11/2020 00:25

@DramaAlpaca

I'm English, have lived in Ireland (Munster) for over 20 years. I've never had the least bit of difficulty being English here. Maybe it's because I quickly drop the fact that DH is Irish into the conversation Wink but I feel I fit in. My in-laws have taught me well. I've no intention of going back.

I wonder if OP realises how culturally different Ireland is to the UK. It's not just a smaller country where English is spoken, everything is different.

It's very expensive here. I'm always surprised when I go home to England to find how cheap it is in comparison. Everything - rent, groceries, banking, primary & secondary education, healthcare, refuse services, transport, insurance... you name it, it's dearer in Ireland.

That said, I've no regrets at all. I agreed to give it two years and I'm still here.

It's funny, we're culturally different but so close as well. We look at BBC and Sky News etc, so generally have a good idea what's happening in England/Britain. But I find the history is bubbling at the surface tbh. I think it will take quite a while for that subside (only my opinion, not a historian).
Lalaloveyou2020 · 28/11/2020 00:33

@OchonAgusOchonO

Also, I think you’re bang out of order wanting to go to another country that you haven’t paid any tax in to claim their child benefit! You’ve got a nerve.

What a bizarre statement. Anyone living here is paying tax, whether it be income tax or VAT. Anyone living here is entitled to claim child benefit

This is one of the biggest differences between Ireland and England imo. Ireland has embraced being a welfare state and everyone knows what their entitlements are (because you pay in tax) but Ruport Murdoch has poisoned the English into thinking that taking back what they have paid in is "stealing". It makes me so sad because England has a wonderful tradition of workers' rights and arguably led the way in labour reform back in the day.
JustStickItInTheAirFryer · 28/11/2020 00:37

If Ireland doesn't work out, consider Scotland Grin

EmeraldShamrock · 28/11/2020 00:42

@headcandygrl You don't need health insurance. There is a €60 euro charge to see a GP or €100 for a&e if you need an mri for instance you get a referral from your GP it costs €260 or you can wait on the public list which you're entitled to do you'll be living and hopefully working here.
You're also entitled to CA to the cheeky poster they can live in the UK to claim child benefit if they choose.
There are lots of people unemployed here too they're far from starved.
You're coming with the right intentions to settle and work you'll be welcome too.

Eloisedublin123 · 28/11/2020 00:45

I’m Irish - live in Ireland- and have also lived in the U.K. Ireland is so much more expensive than the U.K. it really is. My three bed semi in a suburb of Dublin 10km from the city is, if I Bought it now, €550k. That’s certainly not unusual! Everything is expensive.

elizabethdraper · 28/11/2020 00:50

For the night that's in it, the late late toy show tonight who raised 5 million euro in 2 hours for children in difficult circumstances.

20shadesofgreen · 28/11/2020 00:52

Funny you should say that Elizabeth even without the money I was going to mention the institution that is the Late Late Toy show. I thought that was one of the best ones I’ve seen. Given the circumstances it was soooo impressive for me.

Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 28/11/2020 00:53

@VestaTilley

Firstly, can you just move there? Not sure you can now we’ve left the EU.

Also, did you know you have to pay for GP appointments there? Their health care system isn’t free. One of many things to think about.

Also, I think you’re bang out of order wanting to go to another country that you haven’t paid any tax in to claim their child benefit! You’ve got a nerve.

WTF?!

Thankfully the majority of people in Ireland don’t think that way 🤷‍♀️ OP and husband both want to work and pay tax, they’ll also get child benefit. Where the hell is this nasty curtain-twitching judgment coming from?!

Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 28/11/2020 00:54

Apparently it’s just short of 6 now!

EmeraldShamrock · 28/11/2020 01:01

If you do decide to make the move feel free to pm me I'll help you with information as best I can.

Heyahun · 28/11/2020 01:01

@VestaTilley ffs - all the Irish people here seem to have no problem with the poster coming over and claiming child benefit - she would be entitled to it if she moves - she and her husband plan to work so will be paying tax .

I’m Irish living in the U.K. and I get child benefit here - am I also a cheeky fucker? I pay the same tax as everyone from here so why shouldn’t I have the same benefits?
Jesus

You are stating things like you know everything - oh you have to pay for health cafe are you aware ? (The poster said she knows that’s the case)

So you seem to know it all - then in the same post ask if it’s even allowed for British people to just move to Ireland after brexit - so you obviously aren’t very knowledgeable on the subject / the right person to be giving the op advise really

HollyCarrot · 28/11/2020 01:06

[quote EmeraldShamrock]@headcandygrl You don't need health insurance. There is a €60 euro charge to see a GP or €100 for a&e if you need an mri for instance you get a referral from your GP it costs €260 or you can wait on the public list which you're entitled to do you'll be living and hopefully working here.
You're also entitled to CA to the cheeky poster they can live in the UK to claim child benefit if they choose.
There are lots of people unemployed here too they're far from starved.
You're coming with the right intentions to settle and work you'll be welcome too.[/quote]
I wouldn't advise against health insurance tbh. if you're on the dole 60 quid for the doctor is a huge amount to come up with. That said, I don't have health insurance myself. It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario really. I just avoid going to the doctor at all costs. And that's not really the best.

Lalaloveyou2020 · 28/11/2020 01:23

If you're on the dole you get a medical card and the doctor visits are free @hollycarrot ? If low income and not on dole you get GP visit card but not medical card. There are schemes for everyone. Look at the LTI scheme which is probably the most progressive scheme in Europe:free gp and no (as in €0 cost) for doctor visits and meds associated with long term illnesses like diabetes, epilepsy, CO, CF. Mh, parkinsons...and none is means tested. It's crap that GPs arent free but when I lived in UK people went to GPs for small stuff that a pharmacist could fix (I once lived with a lad that went to his doctor over a blister on his foot - you wouldn't do that here if it would cost you €60). Also I live rural. A GP is €35-45. Hardly bank brealing twice a year.

EmeraldShamrock · 28/11/2020 01:28

I wouldn't advise against health insurance tbh. if you're on the dole 60 quid for the doctor is a huge amount to come up with
If you couldn't come up with a random €60 for a GP visit you certainly couldn't afford health insurance it's very expensive.
Besides like a pp above unemployed or low income families get a medical card which covers GP and prescriptions or a GP card if earning to cover GP cost.

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