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Not to mourn the end of Top Shop if it happens

146 replies

nosswith · 27/11/2020 12:48

Sympathy for staff and the loss of any jobs. However, Philip Green is a very nasty person and I will shed no tears for him. Indeed if I ever had ten minutes with Prince Albert of Monaco, I would suggest to him that banishing Mr Green from Monaco would be the best thing he could ever do.

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tectonicplates · 27/11/2020 13:28

And Cos is for tall, willowy women with no curves. I only know one or two women who actually look good in their clothes.

showmethegin · 27/11/2020 13:28

@tectonicplates

The likes of H and M, Cos, Monki, Uniqlo Zara are producing what people want. I don’t see much difference between DP/Wallis and Primark, except Primark is cheaper.

Only if you're of average height. The difference is that Topshop, Dorothy Perkins and Wallis all make petite and tall ranges. If Arcadia closed down, it would be an absolute disaster for petite and tall women.

H&M and Zara are terrible shops for petite women, especially Zara. All their tops look like tunics. Same with Primark.

So true. I don't shop at Topshop anymore because I feel about 100 when I go in there, I'm 32.

I love Zara and Uniqlo but at 5"2 so I have to turn up everything. If they started to do petite I'd never need to shop anywhere else!

Roominmyhouse · 27/11/2020 13:32

It’s sad for the staff who face losing their jobs but some of these brands just haven’t changed their model in line with how people shop. I don’t shop in Topshop but have been in a local one and in my open these days always seems to be full of stuff solely aimed at very young slim girls/women. But prices too high for them, when primark and new look offer similar for cheaper.

I’m sure they’ll get saved though, probably by Mike Ashley!

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 27/11/2020 13:33

I’m not of average height. I’m taller than average. I’ve never bought anything from DP tall or Wallis.

I find Zara quite short in fit and H and M.

Saltisford · 27/11/2020 13:34

Topshop has gone seriously weird - 5-10 years ago I could go there for any clothes, casual, smart for work or going out. They’d be trendy and good quality. Now the stuff just looks like fancy dress!

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 27/11/2020 13:34

Ugh, Mike Ashley owning the whole high street🤢

Would the monopolies and mergers commission allow this?

BlueThistles · 27/11/2020 13:35

I don't shop at Topshop anymore because I feel about 100 when I go in there, I'm 32

you're so young.. don't let them gits make you feel like this....

PavoReal · 27/11/2020 13:38

Agree with @tectonicplates. Only this week I bought a cheap but smart coat for a funeral from DP Tall. I'm 5' 10" so it's pretty much either DP or Next for me (also agree, Cos only OK if you are sub size 12). Next had nothing in stock and it was literally twice the price of the one I bought.
Definite big gap in the market if they go.

Mustbe3ormorecharacters · 27/11/2020 13:39

It’s unlikely to effect him, he has been preparing for failure since he found success.

Tellmetruth4 · 27/11/2020 13:41

I believe they were already on their way down but lockdown hastened it. They were not keeping up with trends, the materials were getting cheaper. Boohoo etc we’re making more fashionable clothes for teens in similarly crappy fabric for a fraction of the price.

Also Arcadia didn’t invest in a proper online presence. Green was probably being tight and didn’t think online was worth investing in.

Taikoo · 27/11/2020 13:46

Top Shop went to the dogs years ago.
I feel sorry for the workers though.
Green is a gangster.

Meraas · 27/11/2020 13:48

Only if you're of average height. The difference is that Topshop, Dorothy Perkins and Wallis all make petite and tall ranges. If Arcadia closed down, it would be an absolute disaster for petite and tall women.

I agree with this, more companies need petite ranges.

GabsAlot · 27/11/2020 13:49

sad for all staff but i agree phillip can do one horrid man

timeforanewstart · 27/11/2020 13:52

Yes as yet another shop gone from
Hugh street and more jobs lost

the80sweregreat · 27/11/2020 13:52

The thought of Mike Ashley taking over is also rank. His another horrible man.
However, if can save the jobs I suppose it's better than nothing.

timeforanewstart · 27/11/2020 13:53

And the likes of green walk away unscathed anyway

GivenchyDahhling · 27/11/2020 13:54

When I was a teenager Topshop was the absolute height of “cool”, really aspirational. Now, it’s just... not.

But I will never feel happy about people losing their jobs.

Respectabitch · 27/11/2020 13:57

Cos is for tall, willowy women with no curves

Short hourglass here and I look the biz in Cos, thank you very much. Yesterday I wore a fabulous structured scuba top I've had for a few years. Cos is actually great for trousers for me because they cut them for small waists and larger hips. And so many of their trousers run cropped anyway, or I could just have something shortened.

Philip Green is an angry, aggressive, sexually predatory (micro)mismanager and it'll bugger all his companies eventually. (I used to know some people who worked at Arcadia HQ). I am sad for people who will lose their jobs, but for economies to work zombie businesses have to be allowed to go under, not propped up on a cash life-support drip, and the companies aren't selling what people want to buy. Evolve or die.

BadlyDrawnSimpsonsCharacter · 27/11/2020 13:57

@tectonicplates

I think the Oxford Circus shop would need saving somehow, even if all the others closed. It's quite a unique shop really.
How would that be fair to all the other stores!? Confused
Nicknacky · 27/11/2020 13:57

I had a voucher to spend in there and I struggled to spend it which has never happened before!

I will be really sad to see it go. In recent months we lost oasis and warehouse in our town and H&M closed last week which I’m gutted about. I’m genuinely running out of clothes shops.

justanotherneighinparadise · 27/11/2020 13:58

He’ll have protected his money. His family spend all they’re time floating around on a yacht. My sympathy to the staff and suppliers.

showmethegin · 27/11/2020 13:59

@BlueThistles

I don't shop at Topshop anymore because I feel about 100 when I go in there, I'm 32

you're so young.. don't let them gits make you feel like this....

Thanks! It doesn't bother me I just think they've forgotten who their target market is. Their clothes are extremely young and "fashion" but the people that are going to be after stuff like that haven't usually got the money to pay Topshop prices. If they want to charge what they charge they need to be aiming for women in their 30s. Saying that, as a PP has said the quality has massively gone downhill too. Most things are polyester and the cuts are weird.

£75 for a badly cut polyester sheath dress, no thanks!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 27/11/2020 14:00

YABU - Green is a horrible man, but he won't suffer. He will always find a pension fund to "borrow from".

His employees will suffer though.

DianaT1969 · 27/11/2020 14:00

In years to come, business students will study Philip Green and the ethics of our government in letting disgusting arse wipes like him, run businesses into the ground while simultaneously plundering them for personal profit. Oh, and giving him a knighthood too.

showmethegin · 27/11/2020 14:01

Feel wretched for the staff as always though. I worked at topman when I was 17 and the staff were treated like shit then, can't imagine that's changed. It's the staff who will suffer as always. Green won't. Odious little prick he is