Builders blocking pavement

[ilovewalks]

Taking children to school this morning and there is an house having some work done.
It's an end house thats front is on the road but side on the cul de sac.
One builders van parked in cul de sac.
The other parked next to a lamp post blocking the path and also at the end of the cul de sac road.
We had to step into the road to get pass the truck (flat bed type so quite long)
On the way home so over 40/50 minutes later they are still there so had to walk in the road again. They were getting stuff off the truck so out came a thanks to which they asked what for and I said for blocking the pavement. I was rudely told I could walk in the road to which I replied pavements are for pedestrians to which I was then told to go away!!
If the vehicle is still there on pick up I'm considering contacting the firm or would this be silly over such a small matter?
I'm not too worried about myself walking in the road but don't feel I should have to put my children in danger and neither should elderly pedestrians or those with prams etc just because the workmen couldn't park a little further up where there is no lamp post and so more room to pass.

I really can't get worked up about transient parking issues, unless the road is so busy it's massively dangerous. I walk, run and cycle in roads all the time. I used to push my kids around millions of obstacles in a pushchair, makes it a bit more interesting.

How are they meant to deliver stuff?

would this be silly over such a small matter?

Obviously

Normally cul de sacs don’t have large amounts of traffic zooming around them so I don’t see the issue with walking around the van while the workmen are trying to work.

Where else do you suggest they park?

Do you live in the cul de sac? I doubt you're in much danger walking in the road of a dead end, its not like stepping onto the M25.

Its an inconvenience yes but you were rude and I'd have told you to jog on too if you spoke to me like that.

If you had to walk in the road then a wheelchair user (me) would be stuffed.

Yes, complain and notify the local police, it's an offence.

How busy can the road be? Yabu

I've lost count of the amount of times I walked in the road to get round various obstacles. I walk in the road every single day to give people room to social distance safely. Imagine if I posted a mumsnet thread every single time? 🤔

They are delivering stuff so this is temporary. It’s a cul de sac so walking in the road is hardly dangerous. You were unnecessarily rude to the builders and for some reason you’re surprised they were rude back/didn’t beg for your forgiveness.

Strictly speaking you are right you shouldn’t park on the pavement but realistically you are being a bit of an arse.

Not sure what you think contacting the firm will achieve as no doubt they will point out that blocking the pavement was temporary and was probably better to block a cul de sac than the main road.

YANBU. It’s a hazard for disabled people.

If they are unloading and loading, Which I would assume they are given there were people with the vehicle, you are unlikely to get very far complaining. If they were blocking someone who otherwise couldn’t pass (someone in car or wheelchair) then they are with the vehicle and can move. Your children are not in that category.

You were rude, the world requires some give and take. This is a very minor inconvenience which happens when you live near other people.

Hi,

It is a busy road there's been a few horrible accidents the past few years. It's a very long road known for cars speeding and currently the council are looking into options to slow traffic. It has two speed signs (the ones that tell you the speed, sorry don't know the technical name for them). The area has a lot of elderly and is used in particular in the mornings and afternoon by school walkers and is a main vehicle route to two primary schools.
They were not just dropping products off, they are working on the house but I don't know if they will be still there later hence saying if they are I may write to the firm.
The cul de sac doesn't have a lot of traffic but the busy road that the cul de sac leads onto does. I'm not moaning about the vehicle parked in the cul de sac but the one of the road.
I would suggest they should have looked, saw the lamp post and then moved a little further up. I don't mean three or four doors up either. Just enough for pedestrians to be able to pass.
No I don't live in the cul de sac; yes perhaps the sarcastic thanks wasn't necessary but when you are faced with various vehicles not thinking about pedestrians on a regular basis it can become a bit annoying. Also the way the vehicle is parked you wouldn't be able to see a car come out of the cul de sac when you step into the road to get pass the truck.

Sorry just seen the other replies:
lowerthanlow all the pedestrians around her step in to let people pass or walk in single file. I've not seen anyone step into the road to social distance.
onlyk it isn't temporary if working on the house is it? Which is why I said contact the firm later if they are still there. I was walking down the busy road not the cul de sac. I'm not asking for their forgiveness, I am asking them to be considerate of pedestrians. They were blocking a pavement on a busy road.
Herhereherhere a wheelchair wouldnt have been able to pass and I don't really appreciate having to put my children at risk off being knocked down by a car flying down the hill.
It appears I was rude so and drivers can park where they like without a care for pedestrians so will not think about others anymore and apologise to them later.

Just realised my initial post doesn't read right, not that it matters because I'm rude and need to accept drivers can park without consideration for pedestrians:
One builders van parked in cul de sac.
The other parked next to a lamp post blocking the path and also at the end of the cul de sac road.
This should read the other van was on the main road pavement but due to size came to the cul de sac entrance.
Still doesn't really read right but didnt want to leave for the day with people thinking I was moaning about two vehicles in a quiet cul de sac

Out of curiosity as it was on the busy road not in the cul de sac that was the issue, is there not two pathways? So you couldn’t just cross the road and walk on the other side?

Oh chill out. I get fucked off by lots of things but seriously - you've been passive aggressive "thanks" and haven't liked getting a similar response.

Perhaps you shouldn't have said thanks but until I finally got round to driving a couple of years ago I use to walk everywhere, only really used public transport for work. I use to get a little annoyed with vehicle drivers parking up and not thinking about me, others etc.
Many a walk to nursery myself and other parents would end up walking in the road because the pram/buggy couldn't fit through the gap they had left.
Now I drive I have to say that having faced this often I now ensure there is space for people to pass if I have to park outside a home/shop etc.
We all have different points of view so some will say your wrong and some like myself who have squeezed past park cars with prams might be more inclined to sympathise with you.

drivers can park without consideration for pedestrians:

They weren't parking, they were unloading though.

I would complain to the firm. The driver was rude and should have been apologetic not dismissive. and unloading should not force buggies or wheelchairs into the road. Pavements are protected. If they always do that they need telling not to.

Not good for dogs for the blind to negotiate either.

onlyk, yes there is the other side of the road but the majority of people who use this road, like myself cross at the lights at the bottom because it's the safest place.
The section of the road we walk is 0.3 miles and then it goes up hill for a similar distance so cars often seem to fly down to our section gradually slowing for the lights.
Soupdragon they were still there on the walk home from school this afternoon so not just unloading.

I would ask politely, explaining that it's a dangerous road to have to cross at that point and it's a main route to/from school, and that it's just because they're by the lamp-post, so please could they move a few yards further up. It's not an unreasonable request. It may be worth asking if a PCSO could come and make the request, if this recurs.

Going into the road is all very well for an adult on their own. I once saw a mum go into the road round a truck on the pavement with younger child in a buggy, telling the older one to stay on the pavement (child could fit through gap, buggy couldn't). Older child panicked, double-backed and followed her into the road - fortunately nothing was coming past, because he didn't look.

YANBU - they were being inconsiderate. I always take care when I park, and it really annoys me when other people don't do the same.

It's like them saying 'I'm more important than everyone else that needs to use this pavement.' They made life difficult for you, and didn't appreciate being told so. Tough.

I think yanbu because a wheelchair wouldn’t be able to get by. Surprised at these responses!

I am staggered that 44% of voters are saying YABU particularly as 90% of the population generally think jobbing builders are cunts.