Is my dd 23 months sleeping too long the lazy bugger!

[Breastfeedingworries]

Hi sorry I posted in the sleep board but no one has responded. This isn’t meant to be a stealth boast or annoy anyone.

I’m worried that my dd is needing too much sleep for her age. She sleeps 7-8:30 usually today she slept in until 8:49 (I’m keeping track, I wake at 7 automatically) she’ll the. Sleep 12:30-3 for her afternoon nap.

It sounds brilliant but it’s tricky because before lockdown I’m tired to the house struggle to make plans as I’m ruled by her sleep. I’m also worried she sleeps too much could this be a sign of something SEN? I’m first time mum so unsure of these things.

Please be kind, I can’t tell others in real life because it sounds smug but I am not. I’m wondering if she’s sleeping too much. I’m genuinely concerned her needing so much sleep could mean something sinister Health wise.

Thanks all

I wouldn't worry they all need different amounts of sleep!

I used to worry so much about DS not sleeping enough! So either way you worry 😂

When my DS was napping still he wouldn't go to sleep until 10pm-12pm it didn't matter what I tried, and no I certainly was NOT in the pub with him. I spent hours trying to get him to sleep at the sacred 7pm and he just would not go to sleep so I gave up and we just rolled with it.

When he dropped his nap at 18months he then started going to bed earlier again and he's stayed that way until now (2.5 years old). On the rare occasion he naps now, he is up until midnight 🙈 it's just the way he is!

He gets between 10 and 12 hours a night and he's fine, 99th percentile for height and weight and never stops moving so he's obviously getting how much sleep he needs.

But I understand the worry, I have had it too, I think they just all need different amounts!

I was the same as my DS, yet my sister was the opposite. I was still waking my mum up in the night at 3 years old whilst my newborn sister was doing 8 and 10 hour stretches

Omg I am reading this thread in envy! I have a 20 month old who I considered a good sleeper, until recently. He would normally sleep for 12 hours at night 6.30-6.30 and a 2 hour nap at 10am. However, for the last 2 weeks he wakes between 4am-5am and naps at 9am.
Really hoping it's a phase. I am 24 weeks pregnant and can't get enough sleep atm so hoping he would one day sleep in until 7am 😂
I have tried altering the time he goes down at night but makes zero difference. Now I am wondering if he needs to drop his nap? Does anyone know the signs to look for?

Thanks

Dd2 had two naps during the day up until the age of 2. She’d have a half hour zizz mid morning, an afternoon nap after lunch and she’d go down 8-8.
She takes herself off to bed now she’s 9. Loves her sleep.

boohoo. 'my child sleeps too long :P '
just wake her up in the afternoon if you have places to go/things to do op. seriously :)
and she just needs to sleep a lot. that is just how she is wired. but considering she is 23 months just cut back down on the afternoon sleep though. good luck

I’m very lucky as all my dc are good sleepers but my twins did actually worry me when they were younger. Even at almost 2 years old, they would sleep 2/3 hours in the afternoon and still sleep 13/14 hours at night. I ended up taking them to the doctor as I was worried that their iron was low. In the end, doctor said there’s nothing wrong with them, they’re just good sleepers. Now dd’s 8, twins are 6 and they all go to bed 7pm and I have to wake them up for school around 7am. They’d probably sleep longer if I let them!

I could have written this! My 16 month DS sleeps 7:30-8:30 sometimes 9! And naps for an hour in the day. It never occurred to me to be worried though!

Ha! @LisaLee333 thanks for the laugh.

DC2 and 3 were an absolute dream, slept 7 pm till 8 am and napped together for 3 hours a day. My house was immaculate and I was extremely well rested. Along came DC4 who thinks sleep is for the weak, enjoys a 5 am start to the day and dropped naps around 15 months. Maybe I need to start taking him to the pub, or he could get a wee job in the local since he’s awake and won’t graduate from a ‘good’ uni

I’d love that problem at the moment. My first was a great sleeper and has never really been an early riser. She liked long 3h naps until around 3 when it was interfering with bedtime. Her issue is more that she’ll push bedtime and like a lie in (think she’s more of an owl) but she’ll generally get between 11 and 12 hours.

My second is more of a lark I think. She’s never napped as well as the first but has always needed to be asleep by 7 or will implode. She woke at 5.30 this morning and is generally up between 5.30 and 6. We had managed to pushed her slightly later just as the clocks changed. The early mornings are killing me especially as the older one is up later.

My dts slept from 6-6 at 5 months and still sleep 10/11 hrs a night now. Having said that I'm asleep by 9 most nights.

God damn, I'd kill for a bit of that nap time! My 2 year old hasn't regularly napped since the start of lockdown I miss the break. This week she's averages 12h 54m of sleep, that's up from 12hrs last week.

Oh dear God what have I woken up to this morning?!

Mocking and laughing at someone posting facts and about your childrens welfare. Clearly a few people projecting on here.

@LouLou2020 please ignore the (few) posters here saying it's OK for your child to not go to sleep til 10 or 11pm, and then wake at 6-7am. It's NOT right, and it's NOT healthy. The amount of misinformation from a few posters saying toddlers/infants are fine to go to bed at 11pm, and survive on 7-8 hours a night sleep, and suchlike is disturbing.

And frankly I don't give a toss what our 'European cousins' think, or what they do.. It's a fact that toddlers/infants need at LEAST 12-13 hours sleep a day.

@HomesUnderTheSpanner

"Many people value family time together with their small children in the evening after work."

So your need to keep your toddler/infant up til the late evening, "because I have been at work all day" trumps their health and well-being? Jesus wept.

I am done with the bull being trotted out here.

I'll just leave THESE here.

Read them and weep...

This NHS link TELLS you they need 12 to 14 hours sleep between the age of 2 and 5.

www.nhs.uk/live-well/sleep-and-tiredness/how-much-sleep-do-kids-need/

Another source giving basically the same info.

www.babycentre.co.uk/a1051092/how-much-sleep-does-your-toddler-need

And another (from the Sleep Foundation.)

www.sleepfoundation.org/children-and-sleep/how-much-sleep-do-kids-need

And another link from the babycentre.

www.babycentre.co.uk/a558729/sleep-deprivation-in-toddlers

And yep, ANOTHER link about the sleeping needs of toddlers/infants. There are plenty out there. Just google it.

healthychildren.org/English/healthy-living/sleep/Pages/Healthy-Sleep-Habits-How-Many-Hours-Does-Your-Child-Need.aspx

A few people can deny it til the cows come home, (and laugh at me, and deride me,) but the fact still remains that children WILL be badly affected by a lack of sleep. And their health and well-being will probably be affected later in life too, by going to bed late at night, and only getting 7-8 hours a night sleep.. (as several of these sources will tell you.) If 10-11am IS your child's 'natural bed time' then you seriously need to question why, and what you're doing wrong.

As I say, PLEASE ignore those posters saying it's OK for your toddler to go to bed at 10-11pm and then wake at 6am. It's not. It's not healthy, it's not good, and it's not 'a natural bed time' for ANY toddler/infant. These posters are just projecting because I hit a raw nerve with them.

Still, I will take the mocking and deriding from these clueless posters, if it means that even ONE mother on here, speaks to a health care professional about their child's lack of sleep and abnormal bedtime.

And as I said, there are plenty of links to information saying your infant/toddler needs 12-14 hours sleep a day. I bet no-one can find anything that says it's OK or normal them to go to bed at 11pm and only get 7 hours sleep. (Well, maybe on another mummy forum where a few of them keep their toddlers/infants up til 11pm 'because that's their natural bedtime' )

I'm done here. And I am hiding the thread now. Have a good day.

@LisaLee333 You're doing some serious projecting here. Who on this thread has mentioned their toddler going to bed at 11pm and up at 6am?!? And where on earth are you seeing these imaginary toddlers in the pub at 11pm?

If you cannot see that your post comes across as judgemental/batshit at best and damaging at worst then you might want to seek help rather than scaring poor mothers on MN.

How do you suggest getting our toddlers to sleep more hours? Tying them down to the bed? If I put my baby down at 6.30pm he'd laugh in my face! And when he wakes after napping for only 40 mins should I ignore him and leave him in his cot? He doesn't need to be up til 8.30am so why on earth would we put him down before even spending any time with him in the evening just for him to wake at 5am? Can you really not see how families' schedules are different?

You may not have wanted to see your LOs in the evening but DS loves the hour he spends with DH before bed.

Show me one piece of research that says babies can only thrive if they are in bed by 6.30pm. Good grief.

OP if she’s healthy and happy don’t worry about it. I have the opposite problem, my nearly 3 year old DD won’t sleep more than around 8-9 hrs a night and is dropping her naps. She has been like this since a baby. No sleep routines worked for her. It’s just the way she is. Some kids need lots of sleep, others not much at all. She never read the books that told her she needed so many hours. I’m glad I never read the unhelpful comments upthread as a new mum, it was stressful enough trying to get DD to sleep without all that judgement!

I’m pregnant with twins so hoping that these two will like their sleep. I am due a break!

OP i wouldnt worry at all about the sleeping, sounds like they just love their sleep!

I am just jealous, mine is the same ageish and still wakes most nights and is up at the crack of dawn. I dream of a lie in!

@LisaLee333 🤨, i dont think mine gets that much sleep a day, i assure you he isnt at the pub at 11 - who is these days?? Not sure what i can do except drug him? Open to suggestions!

My 22 month old sometimes sleeps like that too. But during the week at nursery she only has a 40 min nap so she tends to make up for it when at home

Isn’t the range of sleep needed per day for toddlers anywhere between 11 hours to 15 hours per day?

They’re all different. DS has 11 hours overnight usually - 7 until 6. He used to be 6.30 till 6.30 but it’s slowly changed this year. He wakes at 6 every day now, we’ve tried earlier bedtimes, later bedtimes, different nap times etc but 6am is his golden ticket. He’ll lie in his cot playing with his teddies for ages though so it’s usually about 7 till we go and get him.

When he’s at nursery he has anywhere between no sleep and 1 hour 15 mins but at home in his cot he can have up to 2.5 hours. I wake him at 2 otherwise he’ll be fussy at bedtime.

They’re all little humans after all aren’t they!

@Terriblecreature I’m no expert but it’s probably worth trying to push that morning nap back, ideally you want a maximum of 5-6 hours awake time before bedtime. I think you might be in a cycle of early nap / overtired / early wake. Just a thought. Easier said than done I know!

@Abouttimemum
Thank you, I will certainly try that! Will take any advice I can get x

@LisaLee333 projecting much?

You really need to stay out of the pub past 8 pm, you seem tired, hun.

Both of mine slept 7-7 and had a 3 hour nap at that age. They both still sleep well and gave us a lie in till 10 today! You hear so many horror stories about sleep that a good sleeper is worrying!

@LisaLee333 what a horrible few posts. I’m a big one for routine, my eldest slept 7-8, my youngest did not. Not for the want of trying: I did everything and more to get her to sleep. She just... didn’t. Until she was 3, we had barely more than a few hours’ sleep in one go. Reading your post then would have absolutely finished me, it’s so very unkind.

As it is, she’s incredibly bright, academically gifted and excelling in life. Just like her brother. Brought up the same. Same bed routines. Same great bedtime ‘hygiene’. Not babies any more!

Just goes to show: we are raising people here, not little predictable identical machines.

(And no, we never went down the pub with her!!!!! Huge lol there.)

OP, babies are all different. My eldest went through a phase of 12hrs at night, 3-4 hours in the day. He’s fine. If your LO is otherwise healthy and happy, then all sounds ‘normal’. X

My DD now a 20 something! Loved Sleeping as a baby, and even now lying in until 12/1pm when she can! Check with HV if worried ,but if happy and healthy then just enjoy it! Not all adults need the same amount of sleep/food/exercise either !