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Mental health crisis team unhelpful comments

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Fedupwiththis70 · 14/11/2020 13:05

Ds 24 took an overdose this week. He’s had mental health issues since he was 16. Very limited treatment a few therapy sessions at 16/17 nothing since other than medication. The crisis team called and did their follow up. He was told by her you’re 24 now where’s all this got you and this is teenager stuff. Now surely under adult mental health he can’t be the oldest person that suffers from self harming behaviours. They have made him feel hopeless and helpless. Aibu to think at his age he’s still got time to get better and live a decent life. I don’t know if I’m just in denial because he’s my child but I still have hope he will get better. Has anyone else experienced the crisis team being insensitive?

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HackAttack · 14/11/2020 16:40

What is his diagnosis?

Hm2020 · 14/11/2020 16:42

Discussing you should complain I have had good experiences with them personally and I’m much older then your son and I am a mother. Though a friend of mine had some really hurtful comments about was her father in prison for abusing her he wasn’t and nothing like that had ever happened which is shocking also

ShockMonkey · 14/11/2020 16:52

@Fedupwiththis70 That is really awful.

I've not had a bad experience with a crisis team for my own care but did have a bad experience whilst trying to get someone else care last week. I found it really unnerving.

For those saying about the bath, I've had that, and then I have had my bath, and have had my call back, and then I do the next thing they suggest. I personally found the bubble bath very helpful - it was a long few weeks and I did manage to get myself some self care sorted out in between crisis team appointments.

CHIRIBAYA · 14/11/2020 16:57

What tools do they have in their aresenal? The tools and skills they carry within them as human beings and hopefully in addition, some from training?! Tools such as: Emotional Intelligence. An ability to 'read' beneath the surface; to be able to manage multiple messages that are being relayed and arrive at an accurate understanding of the inner world position. An understanding of the individual's defences and adaptations; where have they come from and how are they stiffling the true self of this person; what is their self-concept? A willingness to be creative in one's approach, to sense what will work best for this person. To be thinking 'how can I get this person to self-reflect', at what point to self reflect and at what pace and depth. An ability to 'hold' whatever the client needs to bring and reveal. A respect for their uniqueness and individuality at all times. What inner work has the clinician done on themselves? Are they committed to ongoing self-awareness? Have they addressed or are they working on their own issues. If you lack this self-awareness you are likely to project onto the client or impose your own world view. The best therapists have no shortage of what to offer someone in despair and anyone who is 'burnt out' by the system has crossed an ethical line a long time ago and should not be practicing. A professional always has the choice when they enter into a client's world to relate at a human level and invite their authenticity and growth or to merely uphold another socialisation process; to hide behind a professional mask and squash the individual in the process.

Bluntness100 · 14/11/2020 17:03

Could she have been trying the pragmatic tough love kind of thing. Clearly it didn’t work and wasn’t appropriate.

He’s been mentally unwell for eight years, it’s a long time, he must need proper support now to try to help him climb out of this, I’m assuming he can if you’re saying you think he can.

Is there a way to try to progress this in any way, to support him to ger proper help?

ChalkDinosaur · 14/11/2020 17:33

@Pinkyandthebrainz

Agree *@DianaT1969*. Compassion fatigue is real in many jobs areas, especially MH. Have close friends and relatives who work in MH and they become exhausted. And it's not just as simple as saying change profession Hmm. Plus you have to consider they see people who are genuinely in a crisis and those who 'play the system' for want of a better term, which doesn't help.

That is not me saying your son was doing so OP. He sounds in a very tough place and he didn't deserve to have those words said to him. I hope he gets the help and support he needs.

Honestly, I think people should change job role, or have a break, if compassion fatigue means they're making the people they're meant to be helping feel worse.
NotanotherboxofFrogs · 14/11/2020 18:13

I hear you op, its shocking some of the stuff that comes out of the mh team mouths in my experience. Yes there can be compassion fatigue and sometimes large egos and ignorance despite the job.

After being transferred to a impatient mh ward after 5 days unconscious 3 in icu, the consultant tried to tell me, "I didn't really mean it", on yes I did and that if I had been serious I would have taken the painkillers first before the rest of the medication (a lot of pills) I was only transferred to the unit after a SW from another team kicked up merry hell as crisis team were letting me go straight home to complete the job as it was my choice, despite me having begged for help in the weeks before my attempt, I had lost all hope and insight.

I was completely bedbound at the time and crisis team advised that I should just tell myself that I was getting out of bed and going for a nice walk. I couldn't transfer never mind anything else.

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