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SoupForLunch · 12/11/2020 19:59

God knows whether anyone will be bothered enough to read (and process) all this….

My DP and I have just bought a house. We plan to knock through from the dining room to the kitchen to create one big family kitchen/diner. However, the two rooms are on different levels. The dining room is two steps higher than the little kitchen. We’re also going to knock the kitchen ceiling out because it has a pitched roof above. The higher part of the pitch is on the dining room side. We’ll put in big Velux windows, creating a nice high, light ceiling.

We’ve had two builders who have both said raising the kitchen floor is the right thing to do, in term of how it will look and how it will be to live in. They say that one level for the whole room makes more sense. We have small children so I can certainly see the practical advantage.

However, my step-sister, who works in something like interior architecture (I’m never altogether sure), likes the idea of the split because the height and light of the kitchen ceiling will add drama / interest. She says we could have the steps at one side and the breakfast bar /slim island straddling the rest of the height difference.

It’s a three-bed semi, so just a modest property.

Things we’re considering:

• If we keep the split level there will be a smaller food preparation area because the island part of the kitchen will only be able to be positioned where the step down is. It will sort of straddle the steps (higher on one side, lower on the other) so people in the kitchen will be a bit lower but able to see into the diner.
• In fact, this smaller food prep area will be the size of a small kitchen… which rather undermines the idea of having a big kitchen / diner…
• If we raise the kitchen floor to the height of the dining room floor, obviously we will lose height on the ceiling. Is this going to make the room that bit less interesting?
• What will future potential buyers prefer? What would you prefer? A step down, slightly dramatic, slight subterranean feeling kitchen or a no-step down big, clear room with a lower ceiling.

I’m not really thinking about cost at this point – just trying to work out what might be better.
I realise this is a funny thing to try to visualise… I just wanted to canvas opinion. Personally, I think the raised floor would be better but I feel sad about diminishing what could be a big feature – that high sloped ceiling with the light coming in.
This has been really fun to write with a crying baby and a nuts three-year-old hanging off me…. ha.

Yes - Keep the split
No - Get rid of the split

OP posts:
SillyCow6 · 12/11/2020 21:51

If you keep the steps you will have plenty of drama with all the falls down and trips up the steps, also mess as the food/crockery being carried to the dinning table gets dropped!

Belindabelle · 12/11/2020 21:55

Switches and sockets will also need to be moved to a new position. It depends how much money you want to spend and how much disruption you can endure.

HeronLanyon · 12/11/2020 21:55

I’m not fond of open led up all one room kitchen diners partic in eg Victorian terraces or semis so for that reason personally I would love j’y here to be some separation and would love the step.

However for resale if you’re thinking about that I guess some might wish you had just levelled the floor.
No question I’d love some steps and a part peninsula/island.

MummyMcMumington · 12/11/2020 21:55

What impact does having the floor the same height create for adjoining rooms?

minipie · 12/11/2020 21:57

Raise the floor! Those steps will limit your layout in so many ways, as well as being a hazard.

There are lots of other ways to create drama and interest.

JoJoSM2 · 12/11/2020 21:58

I prefer the idea of a split level. It will indeed be more interesting than yet another 3/4 bed semi.

I’m also struggling to think what the problem with a couple of steps could be? I can only imagine my toddler not being able to zoom across on his ride-on toy and instead needing to lift it up to the other room.
Other than that, if you don’t have disabilities, it should be fine?

k1233 · 12/11/2020 21:58

I'd go function over dramatics. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the risk of carrying hot food to the dining room while navigating stairs. Maybe it's just because I'm super clumsy, but navigating steps whist carrying food is something I actively avoid.

Callipygion · 12/11/2020 21:58

Same level - if you’re intending to be there forever. Wait till you’re over 50 and your knees will be pleased you did it.

MargotLovedTom1 · 12/11/2020 22:04

Sounds like a step would be a nightmare, especially with an island straddling it. I imagine there'd be a real spatial awareness disconnect between the level surface of the island and the floor underneath it being on two different levels.

user1471538283 · 12/11/2020 22:05

Split level is cool but an absolute bugger with small children. Personally I'd have it all one level for resale value and my nerves could take it for me or children (I have a really weak ankle)

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 12/11/2020 22:06

Why not a slope? You could move stuff around between the two areas using motorised Hostess Trolleys and your children will find it great for skate boarding indoors when it's raining. Another benefit is should you drop a load of frozen peas you will know where they're going congregate.

N.B. I'm not an interior architect myself but I can get quite creative at this bottle o'wine.

Cupoftchaiagain · 12/11/2020 22:10

Do you plan to sell on or is this a long term home? Anyone with mobility difficulties or predictably likely to have in the family?

Bargebill19 · 12/11/2020 22:15

Raise the floor. We lived in a house with a one step difference between the bathroom and the rest of the house. It was very annoying and resulted in a lot of stubbed toes. But did contain spilt bath water ...

maryberryslayers · 12/11/2020 22:15

If you have young children or are bothered an easy about resale, raise the floor. Ours is all one level even out in to the garden and it's perfect for a toddler to run loose.
If you are older/not planning on children and willing to wait longer for a buyer on resale then interesting features.
Personally I like lots of food prep space /a big island so that would swing it for me.

Chocowally · 12/11/2020 22:18

Level it up. Steps are off putting to people with young families if that’s your main potential buying market

Silvershimmering · 12/11/2020 22:29

Take the advice of the builders. SIL won’t have to live with it.

StillGardening · 12/11/2020 22:32

We had proper split level in our first flat - 4 steps. I loved it. Always sat on the steps 👍

CatherinedeBourgh · 12/11/2020 22:41

I have a split step. It is not a problem, but if I had my time again I would dig out the higher part to make it one level (the lower part cannot be raised as there is insufficient height).

The only reason is that I am bored of the kitchen layout but it can’t be changed because of the step.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 12/11/2020 22:47

I prefer the idea of a split level. It will indeed be more interesting than yet another 3/4 bed semi.

What will be interesting about it? Do people honestly walk into a room and gasp when they see a couple of steps down to the kitchen?

Stained glass windows, original ceiling roses, restored tiles or parquet... yes. Some steps? It wouldn’t particularly wow me.

Kiki275 · 12/11/2020 22:47

We've literally just done this, but with one step. We dug the higher floor to be level with the lower one. Doing so made the space a lot more user friendly and removed some of the constraints, allowing me to have a perfect kitchen dining space.

...to ask your opinion on this house dilemma?
MahMahMahMahCorona · 12/11/2020 22:50

Lower the floor.

mrsbyers · 12/11/2020 23:05

We have a step up into our kitchen , bugs me that I can’t get a roomba but that’s the only issue

ILoveYoga · 12/11/2020 23:18

Raise the floor. Waste of space, as well people will trip.

Cherrysoup · 12/11/2020 23:26

Same height=far more flexible for you to do what you want with the space.

Skysblue · 12/11/2020 23:32

My friend had a split level kitchen-diner and several potential buyers said the steps in the kitchen put them off. (Because old people worry about falls and parents of young children know they will fall)

Definitely one level.

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