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To have misunderstood the meaning of this word my whole life?

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Lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 11/11/2020 15:21

Salubrious.

I always thought it meant luxurious. Turns out it means healthy or health giving. (My 10 year old DS asked me this morning so I looked it up just to double check I was giving him the correct definition!)

Who knew? (Probably everyone apart from me). Any more of these to share?

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ErrolTheDragon · 13/11/2020 09:42

Oh well... this thread has given me a cheerful 'crazy little thing called lurve love' ear worm, so it's not all bad.Grin

KiposWonderbeasts · 13/11/2020 09:45

@echt

I would like to offer the ineffably irritating mispronunciation of turmeric as tumeric.

Gets right on my thre'pennies. Or is it thrupennies?

I’ve noticed that a lot lately. My daughter says it incorrectly, but she’s only heard of it via YouTubers claiming beauty benefits, and they are mostly from the US. Perhaps it’s a regional difference like aluminium and aluminum?
CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 09:50

while liberally besprinkling their own phonetic renderings with letters that aren’t in the spelling but make perfect sense in their own accents.

and most other accents as well. That’s the point.

I agree that claiming not to understand what that “r” denotes is faux-naive and you’ll see I directed such a poster a few posts ago to RTFT. You’re right, it is passive -aggressive but it comes from a long history of people with rhotic accents being discriminated against or mocked by RP speakers, often subconsciously. The doctor stitching up my perineum in London after my son’s birth decided it was bloody hilarious to put on a cod Glaswegian accent and say “och, are ye going to call him Jimmy?”. I get people who forget what question I have asked because they too busy trying to imitate the way I said “coat” or “door”. But I don’t go around saying “what do you mean you were “draaw-ring” a picture?” and the reason is that we heard lots of RP/southern English on TV all the time growing up, but they don’t get similar exposure to regional accents and still see them as a comedy novelty.

HunkyPunk · 13/11/2020 09:52

[quote JassyRadlett]@HunkyPunk Cambridge doesn’t list it as an alternative...[/quote]
Thanks. Will tell him! Grin

GChild · 13/11/2020 10:12

The Latin abbreviations of i.e versus e.g.

echt · 13/11/2020 10:21

I’ve noticed that a lot lately. My daughter says it incorrectly, but she’s only heard of it via YouTubers claiming beauty benefits, and they are mostly from the US. Perhaps it’s a regional difference like aluminium and aluminum?

This would work, except there is only one spelling: turmeric.

CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 10:23

I hate “toomeric” mostly because it makes me think of “tumescent”.

Ontopofthesunset · 13/11/2020 10:27

I love the good old rhotic/non-rhotic faux confusion. Though these threads always illustrate to me how little people listen to the sounds of what others are saying. Posters regularly say stuff like "I've never heard 'car ' pronounced as 'cah' " whereas obviously if they live in the UK and ever watch TV or listen to the radio they have heard it all the time.

Ineke · 13/11/2020 10:54

Cheetasonfajitas, hmmm, not sure about that, it appears to me in every region that it is used. I think it is a slip of grammar and not a regional slant. Referring to a TEFL course previously.

CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 11:00

@Ineke

Cheetasonfajitas, hmmm, not sure about that, it appears to me in every region that it is used. I think it is a slip of grammar and not a regional slant. Referring to a TEFL course previously.
It’s not used in Scotland.

However people say “they” instead, which is the same idea eg “look at they horses over there” “are you going to eat they sandwiches”?

My point, however, is that most people are not making a mistake out of ignorance, they are using this grammar in conversation but would switch to “those” if they were in work or a formal situation.

Ineke · 13/11/2020 11:28

Just goes to show how wonderfully complex the English Language is.

JassyRadlett · 13/11/2020 11:41

and most other accents as well. That’s the point.

I don’t quite agree on how they render in other accents but take your wider point - though I do still think a bit more goodwill and good faith would go a long way to making these threads slightly less tedious.

Not everyone who writes ‘ar’ for the sound will be from an RP or south eastern accent (speaking as an immigrant from a non-rhotic anglophone country with an accent that is very derided in the UK - all parts of it.)

LizzieAnt · 13/11/2020 11:47

@Ontopofthesunset

I love the good old rhotic/non-rhotic faux confusion. Though these threads always illustrate to me how little people listen to the sounds of what others are saying. Posters regularly say stuff like "I've never heard 'car ' pronounced as 'cah' " whereas obviously if they live in the UK and ever watch TV or listen to the radio they have heard it all the time.
I don't think it's fair to describe the confusion as faux tbh. It can be confusing if you haven't come across it before. I do think people could read the thread though.
Candleabra · 13/11/2020 11:50

Oh dear. I've always said tumeric. I've never even noticed the 'r'!

CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 11:53

Are you a non-rhotic speaker? I guess they’d be less aware of the r because they don’t pronounce it - they’d say tuhmeric I guess. Wink

Still a big leap to get to “Too-meric” though.

Limer · 13/11/2020 12:01

From a PP - yes, for me, banal rhymes with snarl.

But the 'banal' part of the word 'banality' rhymes with canal.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/11/2020 12:22

I don't like to admit how recently I realised the second letter of 'prerogative' is an r. It's not a word I've had much cause to write, and I'm pretty sure it's widely pronounced as 'perogative'. The 'pre' makes sense but it's quite awkward to say.

LizzieAnt · 13/11/2020 12:25

@Ontopofthesunset
To clarify, I mean people often haven't come across 'ar', for example, used as a pronunciation guide (ban-arl). Even though, yes, they will have heard people with non-rhotic accents on tv.

LoseLooseLucy · 13/11/2020 12:25

the second letter of 'prerogative' is an r.

I’ve just learnt that now Blush

garlictwist · 13/11/2020 13:03

My friend pronounces "epitome" as "epi- tome" (to rhyme with foam). I have never had the heart to correct her.

LoseLooseLucy · 13/11/2020 13:05

Haha my friend says her boyfriend has her up on a Pedder Stool 😂

ErrolTheDragon · 13/11/2020 13:07

@garlictwist

My friend pronounces "epitome" as "epi- tome" (to rhyme with foam). I have never had the heart to correct her.
There are quite a lot of words like that, aren't there? Hyperbole is another such. No-one should ever be denigrated for mispronouncing a word they've come across through reading.
WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 13/11/2020 13:12

@BobbinThreadbare123

I keep seeing 'regime' used when 'regimen' is meant. I keep imagining some sort of S American junta getting involved with face masks, serums and double cleansing!
Ok how in gods name did I get to 51, relatively well educated, and not know this??
steppemum · 13/11/2020 13:14

and in my head I read them as epi-tome and hyper -bole.

I only say them properly out loud!

Mamanyt · 13/11/2020 13:22

@steppemum

This isn't exactly the same, but...am I crazy to think that "apathy" is the opposite of both "love" and "hate?"

but apathy doesn't really mean either of those?

Apathy means lack of enthusiasm/interest.
The adjectives woudl be enthusiastic/apathetic.

So I wouldn't use it as an opposite to love or hate. I think the word you are looking for is more like indifference?

You may be right. I can go with that...indifference, or any word meaning very much the same thing, would be the opposite of both love and hate, which all to often are very close together.
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