Why is Cummings not on the verge of being put away?

[user1471565182]

Again more naked corruption and blatant pisstaking of the public and their tax money. I am so fed up of these spoilt bastards and their constant rewarding of failure with money that they have no right to touch.

''A boss at the PR firm handed £670,000 of taxpayers’ cash by the government’s vaccine tsar works with Dominic Cummings’ father-in-law and runs a caviar company, where he touts himself as an expert on “indulgence”.

Angus Collingwood-Cameron is the company secretary of Admiral Associates, which has reportedly been hired by the under-fire head of the government’s vaccine taskforce, Kate Bingham, to oversee her media strategy.

Company filings reveal that Collingwood-Cameron is also a director at the Chillingham Wild Cattle Association, which is run by Sir Humphry Wakefield, the father-in-law of Boris Johnson’s top aide.

Collingwood-Cameron further runs Caspian Caviar, where he became involved “due to his love of the good things in life”, and is “happy to advise on indulgence”, according to the firm’s website.

The Liberal Democrats said the revelations “beggar belief” and called for Bingham to quit, while Labour said the public deserve “urgent answers” on the contract.

It came after the Sunday Times reported that Bingham, who is married to Tory minister Jesse Norman, had already spent £500,000 on a team of eight full-time consultants from London PR agency Admiral Associates.

They are contracted to the end of the year, which means each consultant is being paid more than £83,000 for about half a year’s work – more than the prime minister’s average salary, the report said.

Whitehall insiders have indicated that Bingham is expected to leave her role when her contract expires at the end of the year.

Liberal Democrat peer Lord Scriven said the contract for Admiral Associates was a “colossal waste” of taxpayers’ money.''

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cummings-caviar-vaccine-kate-bingham_uk_5faa7573c5b66009569e3b71?ncid=fcbklnkukhpmg00000008&fbclid=IwAR1wtqHQVRzpIWe3AFN7DVU9_cBlnZcMMWj5hl8qbgPQuleh0BsW_MBLesY

Is the apathy because people just expect this kind of corruption as the way things work?

I don't agree with it obviously.

Does it take a full 'shaming' campaign for the public to take note? And essentially mainstream media is complicit in these deals on various levels so the 'shaming' does not occur.

Happy to be corrected. Just my pov.

I think a lot of the public are either a bit simple and dont understand why its such disgraceful behaviour or they would do it themselves if in the same position to be honest. And yes, 40 odd years of the Conservative party shovelling public money to their school mates hasnt woken them the fuck up yet so why would this.

It should do.

And posting here reminds an enormous amount of people who are potentially politically and socially apathetic that it happens, that it's wrong and that it should be utterly unacceptable not only morally and politically but also legally.

Maybe that is the crucial part - what are the legalities in relation to this kind of back slapping money guzzling?

Or are the absence of laws and loop holes another area of complicity?

It's simple.

We sold our collective soul as a nation to swallow a bunch of lies about being in the EU to give the Tories a bloody nose. Lies, disinformation and downright criminal behaviour was not only ignored and tolerated but encouraged.

That opened the door to the current crop of lying, self serving, shameless politicians who have discovered that as long as they bang on about Brexit and the will of the people can get away with anything.

Too late now. We chose. We got. And we can enjoy at out leisure.

As a nation, we really should have had much much higher standards.

Well I believe they got rid of the need to publically tender these contracts and give them to whoever they want because of (supposedly) corona. Isnt it a huge coincidence that it just so happens those who can do the best and quickest job are companies with no history or experience in these areas and who are relations and friends of Dominic Cummings. He should be paying this money back personally.

Another one having a Jolly Good Pandemic.
The stench of corruption is so strong, I dont know how it can be ignored!

What can we the public do though? They have shown already (e.g. when Cummings went on his trip to Barnard Castle) that if they are caught they will just brazen it out.

@NotDavidTennant

What can we the public do though? They have shown already (e.g. when Cummings went on his trip to Barnard Castle) that if they are caught they will just brazen it out.

There's lots of things the public can do. They won't make the blindest bit of difference admittedly, but that's the way things are.

It's utterly, utterly gross and I find it infuriating. You can choose from several scandals related to this woman, from personally profiting from public investment to revealing secret information on a paid-for webinar.

It seems that this small, super-connected group are just giving each other phenomenally well-paid jobs at the expense of everyone else. It seems that not even one of them is competent.

@MumbleJunction

It's utterly, utterly gross and I find it infuriating. You can choose from several scandals related to this woman, from personally profiting from public investment to revealing secret information on a paid-for webinar.

It seems that this small, super-connected group are just giving each other phenomenally well-paid jobs at the expense of everyone else. It seems that not even one of them is competent.

They don't need to be. They never needed to be. In fact it would have been unusual if they had have been.

All they needed to do was back Boris and Get Brexit Done. That''s what they were elected for. Nothing else - the economy, health service, education, defence, transport, social care etc etc mattered.

We're all paying the price now. Let's hope it was worth it.

If you redefine democracy as "getting what you want" it's a little bit graceless to start whining afterwards. As a nation we clearly got what we wanted. And we're still not happy.

I'm astonished at how much evidence of blatant corruption around the government is coming out without it apparently being a major scandal. I saw something about Profumo the other day, and I must say the days when you had to resign for lying to Parliament seem so remote: nowadays I find myself quite surprised if Johnson, Gove, Patel, Hancock et all are discovered to be telling the truth.

I'm astonished at how much evidence of blatant corruption around the government is coming out without it apparently being a major scandal.

At the risk of sounding a little like a broken record, why does anyone think there is any scandal ?

You elect an incompetent corrupt government that turns out to be incompetent and corrupt. Surely that's a testament to our electoral systems integrity ?

I think people would be much more upset if having elected an incompetent and corrupt government we had a competent trustworthy government instead. Because that most assuredly is not what we - as a nation - voted for.

Well I didn't vote for Brexit or Boris, so I don't really consider myself part of that "we" Serendipity. But yes it tells us something about the nation as a whole that people chose those things.

Perhaps this quote will help you understand:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

@MumbleJunction

Well I didn't vote for Brexit or Boris, so I don't really consider myself part of that "we" Serendipity. But yes it tells us something about the nation as a whole that people chose those things.

But as we have been told if we didn't know, democracy is about accepting the will of the people.

So the people wanted an incompetent and corrupt government, and by crikey did they get one. Talk about over delivering.

Meanwhile we're all stuck with them. And there is nothing we can do. Because they were elected and that is that.

I've been thinking about that a lot recently, Serendipity. You're right, but its strange how're constantly told to take into account the views of those of vote in the corrupt and incompetent, and to 'be nice'. Do they take into account the views of 48% of the voting population with brexit? are these nutcases in america currently gratiously preparing for the smooth handover of power or bringing absurd court cases, promoting violence and lying (and projecting) about corruption?

Enough of that for me now. Im not willing to give any quarter to those groups who've let themselves be lead into ruining this country through their greed and stupidity.

The weirdest thing about that article is that it has 7 paragraphs of quotes on what the Lib Dems think about it all.

That's like Manchester United winning the league and you report extensive analysis from the local P.E. teacher.

Do they take into account the views of 48% of the voting population with brexit?

I noticed that John Redwood was most concerned recently about the people that voted for Trump not to be ignored. When he's returned from his essential US diplomatic duties to the UK, we can ask him about that, as a prominent Brexiteer and MP. It's curious that now Trump supporters are a minority we need to listen to them.

the people wanted an incompetent and corrupt government, and by crikey did they get one.

Was there a box for a competent option at the last election? I missed it.

I think it's unreasonable to infer that most people supported Johnson given the very odd state of the last election.

Voting Tory doesn't imply supporting corruption- the Major government had less corruption in 7 years than the current government has had already and yet was brought down by it.

The May administration was spectacularly inept but not as corrupt- she sacked Patel for corruption (and arguably treason) but Johnson promoted her.

I think it's unreasonable to infer that most people supported Johnson given the very odd state of the last election.

Unreasonable, maybe. Doesn't make it untrue though, for example ...

The May administration was spectacularly inept but not as corrupt- she sacked Patel for corruption (and arguably treason) but Johnson promoted her.

And we voted him in. Quod. Erat. Demonstrandum. As he would say. What part of his promoting her signalled to anyone that this was a safe, trustworthy pair of hands to entrust the country to ?

Voting Tory doesn't imply supporting corruption

allowing a Tory government in does though ...

Since you mentioned 1992. I can well recall the 1992-1997 faux outrage at the crashing incompetence and corruption* of the Tories back then. All of which was well warned of before hand.

(*Iraqi supergun anyone ?)

Still, Neil Kinnock, eh

its almost as if people should be expected to use their judgement and free will rather than going with whats written on the poll card, donquixote

Isnt it a huge coincidence that it just so happens those who can do the best and quickest job are companies with no history or experience in these areas and who are relations and friends of Dominic Cummings.

What makes you think the PR company has no history or experience?

www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/nihr/
www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/vocare/
www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/kings-college-london/
www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/guys-st-thomas/
www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/university-of-leeds-clinical-research-network/
www.admiralassociates.co.uk/projects/central-manchester-university-hospitals-nhs-foundation-trust/

@user1471565182

I've been thinking about that a lot recently, Serendipity. You're right, but its strange how're constantly told to take into account the views of those of vote in the corrupt and incompetent, and to 'be nice'. Do they take into account the views of 48% of the voting population with brexit? are these nutcases in america currently gratiously preparing for the smooth handover of power or bringing absurd court cases, promoting violence and lying (and projecting) about corruption?

Enough of that for me now. Im not willing to give any quarter to those groups who've let themselves be lead into ruining this country through their greed and stupidity.

Referenda aren't comparable to elections.

More people actually voted against the current government than in favour of it.

At least the referendum had a majority albeit a slim one - but as I said they two aren't really comparable.

What can we the public do though? They have shown already (e.g. when Cummings went on his trip to Barnard Castle) that if they are caught they will just brazen it out.

If you feel strongly about it and have a Tory MP, you could write to your them expressing your feelings. I have written to mine and said I will never vote for the Conservative party while DC is on the payroll - not that it will make the blindest bit of difference.

However if many Conservative MPs have inboxes overflowing with hundreds of.complaints about the same thing, they may take note when they stab Boris in the back elect their next leader

Because he's still useful to Johnson and the money men pulling the strings.

Because he knows where the bodies are buried.