My First Parking Thread- all out war has been declared.

[Casschops]

I live on a street which is all terraced property and houses are very old so the street is narrow as people didn't have cars then. None of us have drives and we do not have front gardens so our doors open straight out onto the street.
We park wherever on the street and this is not about parking outside our own property this is out and out war people!
The parking etiquette is that on one side (mine) we park with all four tyres on the floor and on the other side they park with two tyres on the kerb and two on the road. It has been like this forever.
The council have agrees that this is the most reasonable and practicable way as my side affords access for wheelchair and pushchair users etc so we don't need feedback from that point of view.
My neighbour on the opposite (Pat) side has some plant pots outside her house ( she us on the two wheels on the kerb side) and parks her car on our side of the street which is fine by me as I wouldn't want to wreck my tyres.
A neighbour on my side who is opposite her (Syd) has parked their car directly outside Pat's house and leaving her with the need to climb over the plants to get out! 🤦‍♀️
There has also been a mystery complainer they all think its Syd and Pat has been told that she has to move her plants ( forgot to say that she is in a back to back terraced where we have yards).
She had a chat with the council and they agreed that she would be perfectly entitled to park her car on her side with four tyres on the road as this would then afford access to the pavement in front of her house. She has done this and this now means that you cannot get down the other end of the street without using a very inaccessible access road. We now have two cars parked with four tyres down and its causing fucking mayhem as nobody is breaking the law!
I can't take the dog out without somebody chewing my ear off about it and although it is inconvenient AIBU to tell them all that I don't give a shit. I just find the whole thing so childish....on both sides. She is loitering outside her house now, looking for a conflab, she is drumming up support via the Monday dog walking group who pass our houses and she is going door to door. She is like a politician. I can't hide my smile its like some shit storyline in a soap opera.😁

I sympathise with Pat I love pots and containers! Her pots can't block the pavement more than having a car half parked on it.
Perhaps Syd can treat Pat to a couple of hanging baskets and a window box?
Or you all agree to park with two tyres on the pavement on your side of the road instead of Pats?
This would sort of neighbourhood dispute would keep me entertained for weeks too
Ultimately both Syd and Pat are both in the wrong -its against the highway code/illegal to park on the pavement and its also probably against council bylaws to put containers on the pavement, sit back and order popcorn..

I lived in a back to back as a student in Leeds. The door opened off the street into the living room. There was a small kitchen to the right with stairs at the back down to the cellar. At the back of the living room, against the back wall was the staircase. On the first floor was a bedroom and bathroom. There was a 2nd floor with 2 smaller rooms with dormer windows.

When I went back a couple of years ago, it was still there but now had wrought iron over the window and front door.

I lived in the Cardigan Park/Brudenell Road area near the Royal Oak pub. My parents thought it was hysterical that all the streets had the same name. Mine was Harold Avenue but there was Harold Street, Harold Terrace, Harold Place, Harold Grove etc. Happy days but nobody as potty as Pat!

The missions from the residents, reminds me of the burbs, with Tom hanks, but without the horror aspects. Could we have a better photo of the whole path too the road if possible please, and I know there causing a pickle, but they are pretty flowers.

www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inthe80s.com%2Ftoys%2Finvisibledogleash.shtml&psig=AOvVaw30ThHU6Fg11nkBfgu41GhG&ust=1605119020886000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNizo73M-OwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAQ

OP street should get issued with these, and pretend to Pat that she is the only one who cant see the dog. Reconnaissance missions in shifts

@skodadoda Nope, tons of them in various parts of Leeds (but seemingly from this thread, only Leeds!). Not demolished and I'd doubt listed just relatively affordable housing.

This reminds me of alphabet road. What happened to that thread?

Pat can't have it both ways and needs to learn the power of compromise. Put the pots on the window sill. If someone tripped over them she would be liable. Wall mounted pot holders, window boxes or she could affix a contraption to her rear windscreen and have portable ones!

@SoupDragon

Pat needs hanging baskets.

Yes, or window boxes.

@malbecfan I lived in the same area but not on the harolds.

In both of the ones I lived in the kitchen was in the basement.

[quote MaggieFS]@skodadoda Nope, tons of them in various parts of Leeds (but seemingly from this thread, only Leeds!). Not demolished and I'd doubt listed just relatively affordable housing. [/quote]
Apparently the Birmingham museum ones are listed but they are in the court layout, with shop fronts, outdoor privy etc.

Could probably argue for some of the Leeds ones being listed esp as it seems to be unique to the city that they kept being built into the 1930s.

@BlackForestCake

You have too many cars in a street not designed for them. Pat has just as much right to store her plants on the pavement as others do to store their cars there.

One or the other, surely?

@FredtheCatsMum

Why does everyone feel they need to own a car, and have the right to park it? The things take up so much space, mostly just sitting there doing nothing.

Sell the car, and don't worry about it any more.

Helpful comment of the thread goes to this one. Maybe, like my area, public transport may as well be non-existent and they'd like to get somewhere (like work) 5 miles away in less than an hour

[quote MaggieFS]@skodadoda Nope, tons of them in various parts of Leeds (but seemingly from this thread, only Leeds!). Not demolished and I'd doubt listed just relatively affordable housing. [/quote]
I think Yorkshire in general and parts of Lancashire. I’m in Halifax and there are lots here and in Bradford and Huddersfield. My previous house was a double fronted, back-to-back with cellar. We had the same issues with parking too but at least all houses had a front yard.

Why would anyone want to put their plants out in the street? I imagine every male dog that walks past cocks his leg over them [boak]

I finally understand the people taht ask for diagrams. You lost me. Please provide a diagram 😄

@SchadenfreudePersonified

I think Syd was a bit out of order too though to deliberately make her life difficult just because she parked on the other side!

Maybe there was nowhere else on the street he could park. And he did park with two wheels on the kerb initially - it was only when she complained because she couldn't get past her own plant pots that he was forced to park with all four wheels on the road, causing an obstruction - and now she's complaining about that (understandably - I would think the entire street is unhappy about that).

However, ultimately PlantPot Pat has caused this, and is sustaining it.

You have typed this 3 times up to this point and somebody has already corrected you. You have read the OP incorrectly. I assume Pat chose Syd's house to park outside, so Syd DID park outside Pat's, 2 wheels up. Pat complained. Syd went back to parking on OP's side and Pat went back to her own, 4 wheels flat. So Pat has the obstructing car. Syd never did a thing wrong, except annoy Pat

What happens if Pat needs an ambulance one night, it would not be able
to get down the road to park by her plant pots? 🚑

@BanditoShipman

Still not quite got my head round it... how do you have pets? Dog and cat type pets, I think hamsters would be ok. Where do bins go? How do Yodel drivers fling parcels over your garden wall??? Don’t you get noise on 3 sides rather than 2? Do the front doors open onto a hall or straight into the living room. If the latter, can everyone walking past see inside and gawp at you all day?

I feel like this is a whole new world I never knew existed! (Midlands, not Southerner)

Just what kind of front door do you have that everyone can gawp at you from it?

@Malbecfan
Happy days
Lived on brudenell road for 3 years as a student and now dh lived on harold terrace.
It was my first introduction to roads with nearly identical names.

Loads of back to back housing in Lancashire especially the mill towns. Even some pretty rows of back to back cottages in the nice rural villages.

No worse than living in a flat where you have people both sides and above and below you.

I lived in a back to back in South Leeds 30 years ago. Cellar was the kitchen/dining room, next floor was living room with door out to the street and next floor was 2 bedrooms and a bathroom. I do remember it being really cheap to keep warm as being surrounded on 3 sides was insulating. Can't remember where we kept the bins though.
Don't recall a PlantPot Pat type either as in that area they would have been nicked before she even closed her front door!

@Casschops

She is out talking to herself her boss about putting something in the post, she keeps signalling to Khalid to help her shift the large plants that have appeared round the car. Khalid is not biting.

I may or may not have had a glass (3) of wine but why have none of us used the name ‘postman pat’

Most excellent thread. I love it 😂

I have my own drive that at a push you can get 4 cars on, a front garden and live on a relatively quiet wide road that if you park a car opposite each other all tyres on the road, there’s still room to get a medium size lorry through....... just saying if that helps

🎼

" Plant Pot Pat,
Plant Pot Pat,
Plant Pot Pat is as shit as a bat.
Early in the morning,
Just as day is dawning,
Pat finds that her plant pots are all gone.
Everybody loves their nice new space,
Everybody (smirks) smiles as they wave to greet her.
Maybe, Pat can never be sure,
There'll be knock! Ring!
A summons through her door..."