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No formula milk available from foodbanks

211 replies

CaraDuneRedux · 08/11/2020 09:32

Times article:
www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/food-banks-ban-on-formula-leaves-babies-to-go-hungry-tcghd25gm

Maybe someone cleverer than I am can do the share token.

But in a nutshell, in order to follow Unicef guidelines, food banks like the Trussell Trust are refusing donations of formula, so as not to be guilty of encouraging women to give up breast feeding.

Note that we are not talking about the infamous bad old days of formula companies handing out free samples on post natal wards so that women never start to breast feed.

We are talking about families where a decision has already been made to use formula, and where the mother's milk has therefore stopped, who then find due to change in circumstance (eg. job loss during the pandemic) that they are unable to feed their babies. They can't magically restart breastfeeding at this point - the choice (given the 5 week delay between starting a UC claim and receiving the first payment) is formula or starvation.

Are others as horrified by this box-ticking piece of insanity as I am? What can we do? How do we exert pressure on the foodbanks to get them to help the people they were set up to help (rather than pursuing some Unicef-approved tick of self-righteousness)?

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AuntieStella · 08/11/2020 09:36

a) Trussell Trust, largest provider of food banks in UK does do baby formula

b) it sometimes (often?) asks people not to donate it because they buy it in as and when there is need (easiest way to match brand that the infant is on)

Ptemium · 08/11/2020 09:36

Different babies need different formula.

It's easier to refer families who needed formula to HVs and other services who can provide.

user1471462428 · 08/11/2020 09:37

In my area the health visitor just get the family their milk. Which I personally think is a good system. They have a chat about feeding then ensure good hygiene with bottles then provide the formula. My health visitor can issue it from the health centre.

CaraDuneRedux · 08/11/2020 09:39

The article is about the fact that provision is patchy - some areas refer to HV, some offer formula, but in some women and their babies are falling through the cracks in the system and not being able to access formula.

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NoSquirrels · 08/11/2020 09:43

There is a provision already set up for families needing formula, though. It’s recognised as vitally important so Health Visitors can help people access this.

Can’t read the article without the share token but I disagree with your premise that it’s a UNICEF box-ticking exercise.

SpeccyLime · 08/11/2020 09:45

The article is behind a paywall so many won’t be able to read it.

Mrsjayy · 08/11/2020 09:46

Our food bank sometimes asks for formula or the buy it for referred families , I appreciate not all food bank users will be on benefits so might need formula but you get free formula if you are on benefits so.it isn't going to be needed at a food bank.

NetflixWatcher · 08/11/2020 09:46

Huh? The food bank I refer my clients to do formula, nappies, wipes etc. They do up baby packs alongside the normal food packages.

Mrsjayy · 08/11/2020 09:48

Op can you find a readable article about this?

NetflixWatcher · 08/11/2020 09:48

If the foodbank do not have the brand of formula they need the local churches have funding and give cash to the mums to go buy what they need.

MissMarks · 08/11/2020 09:48

Health visitors can sort formula. You also can’t self refer to the food bank so this should be picked up.

IndecentFeminist · 08/11/2020 09:49

Our TT bank didn't take it, because recommendations were that babies weren't swapped from brand to brand. Obviously a desperate parent would take whatever was available even if that meant swapping around.

We would pass any donations we received to the health visitors, who had ways and means.

WrongKindOfFace · 08/11/2020 09:51

Provision should be more joined up but hopefully they are also helping eligible families to apply for healthy start vouchers which can pay for formula milk. www.healthystart.nhs.uk/healthy-start-vouchers/

I don’t think asking people to donate milk would be helpful as they wouldn’t necessarily be buying the brand needed.

Mrsjayy · 08/11/2020 09:53

Actually I think it might be toddler follow on milk our local food bank asked for.

TheMagneticFox · 08/11/2020 09:59

Our local foodbank takes formula but only unopened sealed tins as then they can store it until the use by date or pass it on to other foodbanks nearby who need that particular brand, they do say on all donation baskets and as you go in to donate they cannot take opened tins.

CayrolBaaaskin · 08/11/2020 10:02

This is pretty scary. Essential food for babies should not be restricted out of dogma.

Ahorsecalledseptember · 08/11/2020 10:02

I do often think that pointing out the reduced costs associated with breastfeeding as well as the health benefits might get rates up?

Rosebel · 08/11/2020 10:09

But not if a baby is already on formula or needs top ups.
I can kind of see the argument that babies might be on different formula but if it's a choice between a different formula or starvation I know what most parents would choose.

Mintychoc1 · 08/11/2020 10:27

@Ahorsecalledseptember

I do often think that pointing out the reduced costs associated with breastfeeding as well as the health benefits might get rates up?
I agree. I know it’s not strictly relevant to this thread, but I’m sure if people were told how much formula would cost per week (as compared to breastfeeding which is completely free) , they might be prepared to give breastfeeding a try.
Thehop · 08/11/2020 10:30

It’s absolutely right that food banks follow guidelines

Health visitors can provide formula to needy babies

IndecentFeminist · 08/11/2020 10:33

Also, foodbanks are not a government entity. They have the right to set their own rules.

Mrsjayy · 08/11/2020 10:38

Dental nurse from Peterhead would have been entitled to top up benefits she didn't need to water down the formula and unicef is just guidelines food banks are free to supply formula if they so wish.

Ahorsecalledseptember · 08/11/2020 10:43

This is the article:

Mothers are being turned away from food banks without milk to feed their babies because of Unicef guidelines that warn against infant formula.

British charities are urging the aid organisation to update its guidance, saying it causes food banks to refuse donations and mothers to water down formula or feed young infants with unsuitable porridge or cow’s milk. Some go without food themselves to ensure their children do not go hungry.

The NHS says cow’s milk should not be given to a baby under the age of one.

Lauren Elrick, 26, a dental nurse from Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, watered down her daughter Robyn’s formula after her maternity pay stopped and her partner’s working hours were cut.

“I had full intentions of going back to work full-time,” she said, “so I decided formula feeding was easiest.”

The couple borrowed money from Elrick’s parents to help pay for formula, before obtaining it from AberNecessities, a local baby charity that does not follow the Unicef guidance.

“It was heartbreaking to be in this position because as a mum I wanted to do everything I possibly could for my daughter, especially to provide her with food,” Elrick said.

She was lucky. Across the UK, babies are going hungry as councils tell food banks not to distribute formula, charities said. Formula costs up to £10 per tub, and babies can go through one or two a week.

“Not being able to feed your baby must just be the worst feeling in the world,” said Erin Williams, 40, co-founder of Feed, a charity asking for new guidelines.

The Unicef advice, last updated in May 2019, urges food banks not to hand out formula because of “concerns for the safety of the baby”, stating “there is an array of different products on the market and getting the right one from a food bank cannot be
In some parts of the country specialist baby banks — which also hand out nappies and wipes — have stepped in, but in others, they are being told not to give out formula by local authorities.

In London, a volunteer at a baby bank said: “Our local food bank has its hands tied to the same extent that we do. Our local authority is calling the shots and as we are based in one of their properties we cannot go against council guidance for fear of losing our home.”

The Trussell Trust, one of the largest food bank networks, is among those to follow the advice, saying: “As we are not health professionals, we feel it is important for our guidance to mirror the standards set by Unicef, which are used in many NHS settings across the UK.”

Some food banks are handing out donated formula “under the counter”, said Tracy Tender, 43, of Glasgow North baby food bank. “Who is anyone to dictate what way a baby should be fed? It should be fed.”

Danielle Flecher-Horne, founder of AberNecessities, said: “I can assure you, there is no worse sound than hearing a mother crying down the phone, desperate to feed her baby.”

Alison Thewliss, an SNP MP who chairs the all-party parliamentary group on infant feeding, backed the Unicef guidelines, saying they were “there for a reason”. She added: “The wider picture is the influence of formula companies and that they may be using the means of food banks, for example, to make their products look better.”

Unicef said it had issued extra guidance stating that “local authorities can distribute infant formula in an emergency or where there is genuine need, providing that a continued supply can be guaranteed and ... safeguarding and infant feeding protocols are applied.”

Sue Ashmore, programme director of Unicef UK’s Baby Friendly Initiative, said: “While people clearly donate infant formula with the best intentions, it’s important to recognise that how babies are fed in the early months of life can have a profound effect on their short and longerterm health.

“There are numerous different products on the market and there is no guarantee that formula donations will be the most suitable for the babies in need, or that food banks will receive the consistency of supply that is vital for babies’ survival and health.

“Health visitors and midwives have been trained and are best placed to support families to feed their babies as safely as possible depending on the circumstances, and food bank staff cannot be expected to take on this responsibility.”

One of the charities involved, the British Pregnancy Advice Service, said there was an “urgent need” for a policy change “given the current pandemic ... this situation is only likely to worsen.

mrsjayy you have no idea about that!

Cassie124 · 08/11/2020 10:45

Everyone saying that Health Visitors can refer families for access to formula, surely in most areas HVs won't know who needs formula as they aren't seeing people. DS is 7 months old and has never met his Health Visitor, we had a call at 6 weeks and have been told we will get our first appointment when he is 10-12 months. If a family were in need of food banks within this period would they even know this was something the health visitor could do, it certainly wasnt mentioned in the phone call I had, although I suppose the food bank could signpost them that way?

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