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To have shouted back?

58 replies

Ideasplease322 · 07/11/2020 17:30

I am really annoyed at myself.

I live in part of the country where retail is still open. I called into a shopping centre I haven’t been in in over a year and had a walk around marks and Spencer. Face mask on, queued, social distanced.

I then remembered I needed To go to the chemist so nipped out onto the mall.

Next thing a lady was shouting (yes angry shouting) at me that it was a one way system. I genuinely hadn’t noticed. I said I was sorry and that I hadn’t noticed, I stopped walking and looked around to see where I should be (it wasn’t busy so there wasn’t an obvious flow of people in one direction or the other).

She Then threw her arms up in the air and made an exaggerated point of shaking her head.

I shouted after her that I genuinely hadn’t noticed, had apologised and there was no need for her behaviour.

People stopped and stared. I am so annoyed at myself for rising to it. And annoyed that I missed the sign.

Is this what life is like now. People yelling in shopping centres (me included 😢).

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EatTheHamTina · 07/11/2020 19:28

Can you ask her to guide you through next time? Like the pic Grin

To have shouted back?
Roselilly36 · 07/11/2020 19:31

Things are bad enough, without people turning on each other. People seem to be on a very short fuse, which is understandable given the stress & disruption COVID has caused.

AdobeWanKenobi · 07/11/2020 19:46

@JamminDoughnuts

i bumped into a lady in the supermarket, i apologised but you should have seen the glare she gave me, And she was with her husband, they should nOT have been shopping in pairs! taking up extra space, so unnecessary.
I don't see how you can make that call. Husband could have been her carer or anything as far as you know. Keep your beak out and stop judging people. THATS what is unnecessary.

OP YANBU.

It's bringing the down right rude in force.

MsPeachh · 07/11/2020 19:52

I personally get a lot of satisfaction from these stories when people shout back at rude arseholes! Witnessed a woman screaming in Aldi at a staff member “where is the social distanciiiing? It’s a disgrace!” There was about 10 people in the whole store. She just wanted to pop off and found any excuse for it.

MmeD · 07/11/2020 19:57

Yup, people are tense. Something similar had happened to me a few weeks ago - was yelled at by someone who felt I wasn’t walking past them quickly enough. Though he may just have been a bit mad - in London you can’t always tell.

Forgive yourself OP, and forget it. Times are crappy enough without adding unkindness to yourself to your mix.

JamminDoughnuts · 07/11/2020 20:29

keep my beak out? @AdobeWanKenobi?

it was her that was so angry at me Shock

AdobeWanKenobi · 07/11/2020 20:46

@JamminDoughnuts

keep my beak out? *@AdobeWanKenobi*?

it was her that was so angry at me Shock

She glared at you for walking in to her whilst you judged her with no clue as to her reasons for being with someone else who may or may not have even been her husband.

I think you're about equal there.

JamminDoughnuts · 07/11/2020 21:25

I did not glare I apologised to her

20bloodypumpkins · 07/11/2020 21:52

*You encountered the ridiculous Covid Police.

They are arseholes who are best ignored. They have nothing better to do.*

Or maybe it was someone feeling anxious, who over reacted a little, but who wasn't actually doing anything wrong (no more than OP was).

Uncertainty can make any of us a bit less tolerant - less tolerant to people who accidentally come close to us (hence the waving of arms / shaking of head), or maybe less tolerant of people who are feeling worried and distressed (hence calling them 'ridiculous' and 'arseholes').

Ideasplease322 · 07/11/2020 22:00

@20bloodypumpkins

*You encountered the ridiculous Covid Police.

They are arseholes who are best ignored. They have nothing better to do.*

Or maybe it was someone feeling anxious, who over reacted a little, but who wasn't actually doing anything wrong (no more than OP was).

Uncertainty can make any of us a bit less tolerant - less tolerant to people who accidentally come close to us (hence the waving of arms / shaking of head), or maybe less tolerant of people who are feeling worried and distressed (hence calling them 'ridiculous' and 'arseholes').

Totally accept I was wrong, I hadn’t seen the one way system

Also accept that people are anxious, which I is why I immediately apologised.

I am annoyed at myself for getting it wrong, And annoyed at ,twelfths for shouting back.

I wasn’t close to her at all, and was wearing a mask so I posed her no danger. I know people are anxious and I should have cut her some slack. Which is why I am annoyed at myself.

I used to love shopping. It’s such a stressful, joyless thing now. Most people, are overly nice to compensate, and I usually am as well.

The head shaking after my apology really made me cross. It was like she was putting on a show for everyone.

But I should have stayed quiet and walked on.

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ChocolateCherrybomb · 07/11/2020 22:05

DH was coming out out of the correct door, as marked, of a shopping centre. A woman nearly walked into him as she was entering through the exit door. DH stopped and stood aside so she could get by. She just started screaming at him. All he could make out was "it's only a mother fucking door, they am all the fucking same". She carried on shouting incoherently. In the end he just told her to fuck off and walked away.

Quite a lot of people have gone nuts, it seems.

nexus63 · 07/11/2020 22:38

i had the same problem in a large shopping centre in glasgow, the security guard told me to go the other way, the person stood in front of me and would not let me past, i said i need to get to the toilet on that side and can't take the extra time to walk all the way round, we did the little dance of me moving and him blocking me, i said get on your radio and get me your supervisor, the markings are a suggestion not a law and they can't force you to use them, with bowel cancer the toilet was more important...lol i have been shouted at and swore at so many times as i can't wear a mask, i just smile and go on my way, no point in arguing x

20bloodypumpkins · 07/11/2020 22:40

@Ideasplease322 sorry, my comments weren't aimed at you, they were directed more at the previous poster (who I tried to highlight).

It is so easy for us all to get angry and angsty in this, and we all deserve a little kindness to others, and to ourselves when we need it.

JennyMcLenny · 07/11/2020 23:30

I am very compliant with the rules but still had someone lose it with me in the supermarket, it was a situation out with my control but the man was still really aggressive.

So I've decided to design a face mask that you can blow hard into and a tongue sticks out. I think I could make a fortune.

theworldaccordingtome · 07/11/2020 23:37

People failing to follow social distancing and other rules are why we will be in lockdown for months again. But you crack on. I'm sure you'll be one of those who "didn't realise" that Christmas family gathering wasn't allowed too when those of us that can follow the rules are missing our families when lockdown hasn't been lifted because people can't behave.
In case it's not clear, YABU.

Azzizia · 07/11/2020 23:52

Yes some please love to tell you where to stand, when to come forward etc. Annoying.

Ideasplease322 · 08/11/2020 00:06

@theworldaccordingtome

People failing to follow social distancing and other rules are why we will be in lockdown for months again. But you crack on. I'm sure you'll be one of those who "didn't realise" that Christmas family gathering wasn't allowed too when those of us that can follow the rules are missing our families when lockdown hasn't been lifted because people can't behave. In case it's not clear, YABU.
Okay I think this is a little extreme😊. I certainly will not be breaking the rules at Christmas. I have found this whole thing incredibly difficult. My dad had a major heath issue and I wasn’t able to hug him, support my mum at hospital appointment or even visit.

Until social bubbles were Allowed, I didn’t see a single person.

I made one mistake. I am not hosting parties, or shopping without a mask, or going out when I should be isolating.

It was a badly laid out one way system that I had just entered.

With the greatest of respect, most people are doing their best. And how dare you made such an ill informed statement.

Here, the temper has gone again🤬

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Ideasplease322 · 08/11/2020 00:25

@JennyMcLenny

I am very compliant with the rules but still had someone lose it with me in the supermarket, it was a situation out with my control but the man was still really aggressive.

So I've decided to design a face mask that you can blow hard into and a tongue sticks out. I think I could make a fortune.

😊 I love this!

I think the majority of people are doing their best.

I know people are anxious, but some people seem to have lost all reason. I suppose it’s easier to yell at them ask wearing lady in marks and Spencer’s who misread a
Sign than confront the big group of drunk teenagers having a house party.

My nephew and his friends got yelled at in the park by some random adult about social distancing. There are eleven and there were only four of them walking home from school. He really scared them, using really bad language and now they refuse to walk home without a parent.

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Ideasplease322 · 08/11/2020 00:27

That should have read they are eleven years old - four class mates walking home through the park.

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Nonameslob · 08/11/2020 00:34

@theworldaccordingtome how have you made the jump from someone making a mistake to purposely breaking the rules? It must be wonderful being so perfect!

Ideasplease322 · 08/11/2020 00:48

@theworldaccordingtome

People failing to follow social distancing and other rules are why we will be in lockdown for months again. But you crack on. I'm sure you'll be one of those who "didn't realise" that Christmas family gathering wasn't allowed too when those of us that can follow the rules are missing our families when lockdown hasn't been lifted because people can't behave. In case it's not clear, YABU.
You mention missing your family at Christmas - and I know it’s really difficult to think about. I truly do hope you aren’t going to be alone this Christmas and you have a support bubble to help you through it.

I live alone and my support bubble is my sister and her family. Unfortunately, I have found that children often have Covid like symptoms so I have done my fair share of isolating until test results are in. But I really only leave the house once a week anyway- and the first time my niece hugged me after two months of being completely alone was amazing😊.

I probably won’t get to see my parents at Christmas (I normally stay with them for the two weeks), and I know they are really upset about not seeing the grandchildren on the big day.

If you aren’t in a support bubble, are there any fiends you can reach out to? One of my friends will be completely alone on the big day. She is already planning for a day of pampering and luxury. She will also have calls with family and friends but I know it’s not the same. Depending on the rules, she might be able to meet some people for a socially distanced Christmas morning walk. But it’s hard to plan without knowing what the situation will be.

Next Christmas will be better.

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CSIblonde · 08/11/2020 02:17

Everyone in my very empty Asda & Tesco ignores the arrows tbh. In (huge) corner shop , same thing. A woman in a mask was speaking to unmasked shelf stacker literally 6inches between them. I passed by , masked approx 2m away & she shrieked "2 metres, 2 metres, I'm vulnerable". Not too vulnerable for a lengthy non distanced chat about yoghurt tho, so no one else could get to it.

Ideasplease322 · 08/11/2020 02:19

Theworldaccordingtome I jumped down your throat when you accused me of being the grinch who stole Christmas.

I still think your reaction was extreme, however I am stuck on your concerns about missing your family this Christmas.

First of all we don’t know what the rules will be - so don’t panic just yet.

I have been hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

I have done a bit of research into loneliness. As I said I found the first few months really really hard. Reading and exercise outdoors help.

So, if support bubbles aren’t allowed, I am going to spend the three days reading, watching tv and using the beautiful parks on my doorstep.

I am going to treat myself to an Apple TV Subscription seeImg I have watched everything on Netflix and sky. I am also going. To look out for an awesome book.

I am going to walk to my parents house each day and wave at them through the window and do the same with my sister.

On Boxing Day I am starting couch to 5k.

And then it will be 2021 and everything will get better🌼.

Please don’t be the crazy lady shouting in marks and Spencer’s.

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LuaDipa · 08/11/2020 06:59

Mistakes happen op, don’t worry about it. I wish people would give each other the benefit of the doubt rather than rushing to judgement. It’s a confusing and anxious time for us all at the minute.