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Received text from Ex's new girlfriend. AIBU to be thrilled that he will soon by dying of shame?

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Shameme0nce · 06/11/2020 17:55

God, I hope she's not on here!!

EXH and I have been apart for 4 years. We were together for 12 years and we split when DD was 5. I won't go into the ins and outs of the relationship but he checked out years before the split and, while I could never prove it, I suspect he was looking around. Marriage had been rocky for a number of reasons but, ultimately, it was his decision to split.

He's always been a challenge in terms of contact and maintenance. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dad but very much of the camp that his responsibility ends the second his day is up and it has been a battle to get to the point where we are at now where DD sees him two nights each week.

He Threw strops about using annual leave to cover a portion of school holidays but is always first to 'claim' her for the fun stuff like birthdays, Christmas, Halloween etc. The man wants to make memories but not deal with the drudgery and inconvenience of day to day life (one of the many reasons we are not compatible now!). I don't let him away with this behaviour but have learned over the years when to pick my battles.

Anyhow, about 18 months on from our split, I met my DP. I was very slow to bring him into my life because of DD and he moved in with us very recently, after two and a half years together. His relationship with DD is lovely but he respects the fact he's not her dad so, while supportive of my battles with Ex, he largely keeps out of it.

I am really not sure of how many 'girlfriends' ex has had. To his credit, he's never introduced any of them to DD as they clearly weren't important enough.

He has, however, in the last few months been seeing a woman in her mid 20s.
DD seems to like her. I feel the introduction was a bit soon and unnecessary given everything else that is going on, but not much I can do about that and as long as she's kind to DD, I'm happy.

Alongside this burgeoning relationship has been a renewed interest in DD. It's nice, if a little suspect, but DD is thrilled so again I'm happy to facilitate. He's seeing her for a few extra days during the Christmas holidays which will be lovely for her.

Now bearing in mind I don't know this woman, haven't spoken to her, not been introduced, have no idea what she looks like... I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this text I got from ex's phone....

Hi Shame,
It's X. Hope u and DD r gud. Can utell her we r lking forward to seeing her on Sunday.
(Ex) told me about Xmas plans and I now it's not really my place, but I'm concernd about how much time DD is spending at our house.
I now ur busy with work but DD needs consistency and we think the going backwards n forwards so much during the week is 2 much 4 her. I know (ex) is happy to c her so much but I think we all shud sit down and work out a plan that works for us all. I feel like I never get to see (Ex) alone anymore and I now u can understand how important 1 on 1 time is at the start of a new relationship (haha!) . Mabe we cud sit down for a coffee on Sunday?

It's wrong on so, so many levels:

  1. Sent from ex's number. Why do you have his phone? Also, there is ZERO chance of him ever saying anything like this.
  2. Is 5 nights a week not enough one to one time? They both WFH at moment too.
  3. Wtf does she mean by the haha? .
  4. The mix of text speak and formal English is massively jarring. Pick one or the other. Commit, woman!
  5. She wants more time to'get to know him'? She's met our child and has moved in, presumably in the space of a few months.

The best bit of all of this is that SHE thinks the additional time with DD is being driven by me when it's actually EX showboating to highlight his amazing father credentials.

It is a glorious mess and half the joy is coming from knowing that Ex is going to be so embarrassed. I can't decide what my next move should be.

Vipers, ho!

OP posts:
mcmooberry · 06/11/2020 19:14

I would be fuming to get this - she wants your DD out of the way so that she and your exH can have a nightly shagfest (ha ha)?????? She sounds awful.
Please let us know how the conversation goes, I liked the very first dismissive reply letting her know it was sweet FA to do with her.

Georgeoftheinternet · 06/11/2020 19:14

@MagicSummer

What a sad situation, but what a shame your ex couldn't choose someone who actually understands and can write English.
I vomited in my mouth reading it,
Bouncycastle12 · 06/11/2020 19:15

It’s so weird that she sent it from his phone! And surely - unless she then deleted it, which would be even weirder - he would then see that it was sent. So she must have discussed it with him?

LouiseTrees · 06/11/2020 19:16

Agree with the poster above and I think by the haha she means she’s not getting weekend sex (or perhaps any) if I’m honest. What a self entitled twat though. If she wanted that life she shouldn’t have chosen a man with a kid.

Dontbeme · 06/11/2020 19:17

So your dp has recently moved in and now you get this text from the ex's new gf? Haha someone's nose is out of joint that you have moved on and it's getting serious as your dp has moved in. Want to bet that he has been kicking of about this to this silly little bint and she has decided to take things into her own hands? I am not suggesting he wants you back OP but I am thinking he is pissed that you have successfully moved on and are not pining for him.

NoProblem123 · 06/11/2020 19:17

Sorry, I can’t get passed the first comment about him being ‘a good dad’ and then you go on to describe a crappy dad who you’ve struggled with over contact & maintenance Confused

AlternativePerspective · 06/11/2020 19:19

How in the name of God do people actually write texts like that. Writing that way is surely actually a skill isn’t it. 😂 as is reading it.....

I would actually send your ex a text and say: “I just thought you should know that your GF has been going through your phone and sending texts to various people.”then leave it at that. He’ll then wonder who she’s been sending texts to and what, even if he knows about the text to you. Sometimes even a nice bit of gaslighting has its place... Grin

InFiveMins · 06/11/2020 19:19

I'd just ignore it and carry on as normal. She's after a reaction from you, don't give her one.

ApolloandDaphne · 06/11/2020 19:20

I didn't realise people still text like that anymore!

NoProblem123 · 06/11/2020 19:21

Oh my word ! I’ve finished the original post - so glad I did.
Who the hell does she think she is !!!

This is glorious Grin

tara66 · 06/11/2020 19:21

As your DD is only 5 and can't defend herself - I would be very concern that this GF will be mean and unkind to her. GF has let you know very clearly she does not want your DD around. That is a warning to you. She might abuse and frighten DD. It is a serious matter. She does not want the child in her life.
I think you should express your great alarm to your ExH and tell him you are very worried indeed.

Yespresh · 06/11/2020 19:21

Shame on him for being a weak spined individual and letting her send it.

Ignore the text. What on earth has your daughter got to do with her?

Ori3 · 06/11/2020 19:24

Firstly, the grammar needs correcting. It just hurts. Secondly I would not rule out the possibility your ex wrote it.

You need to be the adult in this & make a decision on how to proceed based upon the best interests of your little one as it seems as though she is at the mercy of a lot of immature behaviour - not from you but from him & the uncertainty/selfishness he exudes.

I actually found your OP sad. You need to sit down with the ex & thrash out between you, a formal agreement on days/times when he has her/sees her. The new partner does not need to be involved in those discussions. You are the parents, you both make the judgement call.

justicedanceson · 06/11/2020 19:25

Oh dear, I’m a embarrassed for her...

Probably good to ring Ex as per your plan.

I would probably have text back saying “As I’m sure you can appreciate contact is something [ex’s name] and I agree together taking into account DD’s best interests. Your message sounds like a relationship discussion you need to have with Ex.

Happy to meet some time when we aren’t in lockdown with you both. All the best”

Greyshaggyrug · 06/11/2020 19:26

Just wow! She doesn’t sound like a grown up!

Diverseopinions · 06/11/2020 19:27

I think you should take DP to any coffee meet-up. It'll make the dynamics more about arrangements than about ex-wife/new gf. It will be impossible for the conversation to be anything but child-centred with three reasonable and moderate adults there.

I certainly don't think ex knows about this text. It sounds like gf is taking the initiative because her discussion with him has fallen on deaf ears. She's bouncing everyone into a change because she wants change to happen.

It's not that funny if this is gf isn't talking about Christmas only, but about about the regular weekly contact, generally. It sounds like your DD could be upset if her contact is reduced. It's really sad, that sentence: 'I'm concerned about how much time DD is spending at our house'. Your daughter's feelings aren't prioritised, yet it's the poor wee mite's second home.

So gf has been seeing exH for a few months, but it's 'our house'. That's an indication to you that it's serious and you may want to factor into your take on exH and the likely course of events that there could be marriage ahead there, and a new baby. So this is a good time for yourself and DP to be helping your DD with her resilience; her attitude to change and ways of accepting that situations change but love remains the same. ( Don't go into details about what could happen)
It sounds to me by the tone that gf is furious the days when DD go over are being increased and she's possessive about her role with Ex H.
Is the 'haha' a reference to time to have sex/ make a baby ?
'a plan that works for all of us' then straight after, 'I feel like I never..' is putting her own needs first. If she thought it's only you who want your daughter to go to them more, she'd have written: ' I know it works for you, but what about the rest of us?

I agree, OP, that you'd know if your ex would send something like that text - or even know about it. You know his style.
The text is a curious mixture of taking the moral high ground: 'needs consistency' ; and putting on a show of unity -' we feel', and moaning about being hard done by in a childish way.

I'd agree to meet with your DP present and I'd avoid point scoring.

ChocolateCherrybomb · 06/11/2020 19:28

Mabe we cud sit down for a coffee on Sunday?

I hate to be the one to say this but where?

Aren't we in lockdown?

I don't think many people are lining up to bubble with their ex's new shag.

Will it be their house, your house or one of the cafes that are not open.

Why coffee? Does she need the caffeine for a mental boost if required to speak in whole sentences?

UsernameSpoosername · 06/11/2020 19:29

Good plan OP. Ballsy cow!

DimidDavilby · 06/11/2020 19:29

Ha is she like 17? She sounds like two children in a trench coat pretending to be an adult.

Please update us Grin

berryfull · 06/11/2020 19:30

I’d send a screenshot of the text back to him with “Ex, I’m abit confused as just got this text from your phone, from your NG. Can you give give me a ring to discuss ? Thanks”

diddl · 06/11/2020 19:30

@NoProblem123

Sorry, I can’t get passed the first comment about him being ‘a good dad’ and then you go on to describe a crappy dad who you’ve struggled with over contact & maintenance Confused
I was beginning to think I was the only one thinking this!

From what you've said Op, I don't know why you'd be surprised if he was behind the message in some way.

momtoboys · 06/11/2020 19:31

Following for updates!!

tinatree · 06/11/2020 19:31

Gosh that was a painful read.
I'd probably ignore it initially to see if any further contact is made. She sounds like the type of person to message '???' if someone hasn't responded for a few hours.

SandyY2K · 06/11/2020 19:32

Sorry, I can’t get passed the first comment about him being ‘a good dad’ and then you go on to describe a crappy dad who you’ve struggled with over contact & maintenance

I agree.

I'm surprised ppl are questioning if the DD wrote the text. I know it was poorly written, but a young child isn't going to write about contact and wanting time together at the start of a relationship.

It's such a desperate message from her, it's embarrassing.

In her mid 20s she should have many options that don't include a man with a child, as she doesn't want your DD around much....but given her written skills, alomf with her massively overstepping the mark, perhaps her options are limited.

Hopeisnotastrategy · 06/11/2020 19:33

@Shameme0nce

I have a screenshot of the text and gearing up to call him. I think that engaging via text leaves him open to lying but there's no way to hide that from his voice.

I'm going to say that I got a text from his phone from his GF and if he knows about it. If its a yes, then it becomes a longer conversation. If it's a no, I'll offer to send him the text and ask him to speak to GF about boundaries. Whatever the answer, I need to know if he genuinely wants DD for more contact time as I'm not having her hopes raised for them to pull out or, worse, not engage with her when she's at his house.

These are the times I would like a respect button on MN.

Well said.

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