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Original poster

AIBU to not know what to do regarding daughters 1-1 and Covid.

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No91 · 31/10/2020 20:10

This might be long so I apologise.

DD is vulnerable, she hasn’t been back at school
However she does have a 1-1 which is fully funded by council not partially funded via school but completely by council.
Currently up to now her 1-1 has been on classroom at the school from 9 am to 1.30 ( small classroom 30 kids and 3 other adults ) She then comes to our house from 2-3:30 to reach my daughter.
Would I be unreasonable to now ask the school either she comes to mine from 9 am - 3.30 or if just afternoons not to be in the classroom at all.
Remember she is not a school employee and is not funding via the school but directly via council as my daughters 1-1.

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june2007 · 31/10/2020 20:15

Well if there were any cases she would have to isolate and wouldn,t be at school, so assuming no casses then I think she should be fine,.

MeredithGreysScalpel · 31/10/2020 20:18

I’m not sure anyone here can answer this for you. Do you have a doctors letter stating your child shouldn’t be in school? I’ve never heard of a 1:1 being funded entirely by the council so not sure of protocols here.

Bridecilla · 31/10/2020 20:18

Why is she going into school of she is only funded for your daughter?

If she only gets paid 1.5 hours for your daughter and she's working at the school to make up her wage then you can't expect that to stop?

Lulu1919 · 31/10/2020 20:19

You need to talk to her and the school

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 31/10/2020 20:19

How many hours are funded by the council?

Letseatgrandma · 31/10/2020 20:25

That’s very unusual; schools usually fund the first £6000. Can I ask how this was arranged bypassing the school?

I think you need to speak directly to the LEA on this one.

Ohtherewearethen · 31/10/2020 20:27

Could you just clarify a few things?
How many hours a week I'd the 1:1 paid by the council to work with your daughter?
Presumably, your daughter has a statement/EHCP which details the level of support/number of hours support she is entitled to?
Why is the 1:1 going into school at all if she is employed by the council to only provide 1:1 support to your daughter?

Letseatgrandma · 31/10/2020 20:33

Are you saying this 1:1 is funded to be with your daughter full time, but as your daughter is not going to school, the 1:1 is working with other children in the class each morning (even though the LA is solely funding this for your daughter?) and then coming to your house for only an hour and a half in the afternoon?

If she is paid to work with your daughter from 9-3.30 and you’re daughter hasn’t been at school since March, why is she only supporting her for 90 minutes each day?

uglyface · 31/10/2020 20:39

I’ve not heard of a case where the first £6000 isn’t paid for by the school, nor where an adult working with a child/children in that school is not directly employed by them,

In this situation you’d probably need to speak to the LEA, as they presumably are the ones that need to direct the 1:1 to work solely from your home, if he/she is not contacted to the school,

Boulshired · 31/10/2020 20:49

Even with 1:1 the person’s contract would include being utilised by the school when the child is not in school.

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No91 · 31/10/2020 21:03

She is paid for by council for full hours sorry didn’t make that clear. It was a battle but it was the only way forward.
So in normal circumstances she would of been daughters 1-1 in classroom the point of her was so that when daughter was not well enough to go school or in hospital she would come to the house or hospital. We have been very lucky and we know it’s extremely rare to be granted.
Just Covid put the spanner in the works 🙈

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OoohTheStatsDontLie · 31/10/2020 21:07

If she is funded for full time with your daughter surely she should be with your daughter full time, why is she only coming a couple of hours?

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No91 · 31/10/2020 21:09

I think
Because 1-1 6 hours education would be too much for daughter ( usually this would be in a school setting ) not at home 1-1.
But thinking maybe I should request this during covid.

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Letseatgrandma · 31/10/2020 21:10

@No91

She is paid for by council for full hours sorry didn’t make that clear. It was a battle but it was the only way forward. So in normal circumstances she would of been daughters 1-1 in classroom the point of her was so that when daughter was not well enough to go school or in hospital she would come to the house or hospital. We have been very lucky and we know it’s extremely rare to be granted. Just Covid put the spanner in the works 🙈
You made it very clear, it’s just that those of us involved in funding know this doesn’t ever (or obviously rarely, having read your post!) happen. I’m just interested professionally in how it did happen-how does the school not pay the initial amount?

Why, if they funded a full time TA, are they spending the majority of the day in school, not supporting your child? Didn’t you contact the LA in September to find out why?

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No91 · 31/10/2020 21:20

@Letseatgrandma it’s nothing bad about the school and the current situation, it’s just 6 hours would be intense 1-1 learning at home.
So currently they say they are using the time she is in school for her to be in class picking up what the teacher is teaching etc and then coming to us.
My issue is covid at the moment. Obviously she is coming in to our house after being in the classroom ( I don’t obviously know what she is doing whilst there as I am not there )

Erm well the school placement broke down and there was a lot of issues with getting daughter in to school pre covid the local authority agreed. There was a lot of fight but it got secured just before covid.

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Original poster
No91 · 31/10/2020 21:21

The reason it was agreed was because it needed to be someone that the classroom didn’t rely on and her ehcp granted included being able to move between school / home and hospital.

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Ohtherewearethen · 31/10/2020 21:21

If she's funded by the council to support your daughter full time then that's what she should be doing. If It's too much for your daughter to be doing 6 hours a day then she could use a couple of hours for planning/making resources/updating targets and other paperwork in school but out of the classroom and then teaching your daughter 1:1 at home with a tailor-made curriculum. Your daughter isn't an afterthought for her to see to on her way home from work. I'd be quite annoyed about this actually.

Original poster
No91 · 31/10/2020 21:22

Just to clarify I have no issue with the school at the moment I am more concerned about the mixing and coming in to household.

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Boulshired · 31/10/2020 21:22

Your child seems to be straddling a school setting and an EOTAS. The problem is that they would both be different arrangements. A normal school day in timings would be in a case by case decided when implementing EOTAS. In your case although 1:1 is paid for by the council the school still has educational responsibility. No one can really accurately advise on this as it has been set up for your child.

Original poster
No91 · 31/10/2020 21:24

I think I’m just asking am I being unreasonable to be concerned about 1 person mixing in the classroom and then attended our home with a vulnerable child. Or is it a bit ott 🙈

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YerAWizardHarry · 31/10/2020 21:25

Realistically she could be going out every weekend, having house parties, mingling with different households and you'd never know. There are guidelines and procedures in place in the school to keep her (and the pupils) as safe as possible

Letseatgrandma · 31/10/2020 21:25

Not unreasonable to ask. I’m surprised you didn’t in September.

Original poster
No91 · 31/10/2020 21:28

Do you think 6 hours is a long time for 1-1 learning every day for a child. ( key stage 1 )

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MustWe · 31/10/2020 21:36

6 hours 1-1 learning would be more than they do in school. 1 hour is lunch for starters, plus breaks. So that reduces it to around 4 hours. Some of that would be PE, art etc. I see the need for the 1-1 to be in school some of the time as she isn’t a teacher and it will be helpful for her to see how the teacher delivers the lessons before working with your child.

Jellycatspyjamas · 31/10/2020 21:37

Yes, 6 hours is way too much on a 1-1 basis at that age - in school there are lots of things that break up the educational element even during Covid, I think 6 hours would be hard for her to fill and your daughter would struggle with concentration over that time.

Could you arrange a couple of half days rather than the hour or so. She could come to you maybe 4 mornings a week and spend the rest of the time catch up with what teachers are doing in school and translating into work appropriate fir your daughter 1:1?

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