Understanding moving between covid tiers

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Please help settle a decision/ understanding of how rules change/apply when you move between tiers

We live in tier 1
Friends live in tier 2

My understanding is that although they are allowed to travel from their area (tier 2) to our tier 1 area, they cannot meet us anywhere in tier 1 indoors/stay at our house (even though we can do this in tier 1 with other people in tier 1)

YANBU - correct - they could visit your area but would have to stay in a hotel/ only meet up outside whilst visiting

YABU - if they come to tier 1 they follow tier 1 rules

Have you checked gov.uk?

Yanbu
If you feel comfortable letting them visit though then I personally would let them

I read that whilst there was advice from Sadie Khan that if in London you should stick to tier 2 rules when you went somewhere in tier 1 this is not actually law and legally you only need to follow tier 1 rules if you are in tier 1 location.

But I could be wrong!

Sadiq not Sadie!

You are correct.

You need to follow tier 1 rules.

They need to follow tier 2 rules.

It doesn’t matter where you go during the day, you follow the rules for your home address. There would be no point having tiers otherwise as all somebody in tier 3 would have to do is spend the day elsewhere and ignore tier 3 rules, hence spreading the higher risk.

Not sure of the specific rule but I always go with the harshest. So follow tier 2 rules whenever you are if you live in tier 2.

I’m going to Scotland next week where legally I can meet another household in a restaurant (but not drink alcohol). I can’t do that here (tier 2) so I won’t be doing it there. My risk of passing the virus to someone else won’t suddenly change because I’ve crossed the border.

they're correct. We're not staying with family in tier 1 over half term as we're in tier 2, for precisely that reason.

@Reclinehard I checked gov.uk last night but it doesn't specifically address this situation.
I have read the guidance as suggesting that my understanding is correct, but it isn't 100% clear

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-covid-alert-level-high this says you cannot meet indoors with people outside your area, unless exceptions apply. You are correct

If you live in tier 1, you abide by T1 rules unless you go to T2 in which case you follow T2 rules.

If you live in tier 2 you follow those rules in the same and lower tiers.

Tier 3 should not be mixing outside their tier so should follow tier 3 everywhere.

This all sounds a bit hunger games, doesn't it?

@Shoxfordian I really want to see them but don't feel comfortable (I'm really not a 'rule-breaker, and with covid tend to err on the side of caution) but DP is comfortable with them visiting although is happy to go with what I decide (although I feel like the bad guy in this situation)

@Toomanycats99 this is my dilemma, it's not advised but also not illegal

@Florencex @Lilybet1980 @everybodysang

that's my interpretation too, that surely you should follow either your home or current rules (whichever is stricter) wherever you are or are visiting as like mentioned above, otherwise there is no point if tier 3 stay home, at home, but do as they please in a tier 1 area

Thanks @MsMartini I found the following under the 'Travel' section heading

"You can still go on holiday outside of high alert level areas, but you must only do this with people in your household or support bubble."

Toomanycats is wrong. It is illegal

Thus is from the statutory instrument

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1104/schedule/1/paragraph/1/made-

If you are in tier 2, no mixing indoors. If you live in tier 2, no mixing indoors regardless of where you are.

We are in Tier 1 - we visited friends when were in Tier 2 last weekend. We couldn’t go out to dinner with them or go into their house but we did have a cup of tea in their garden, while sitting on chairs and holding umbrellas as it was raining

The same question was asked on BBC news (about a week or 2 ago they had a special session to explain rules). The answer is : you always follow the rules of higher tier. So your friends will “bring” tier 2 rules for their family into tier 1 area and will continue to follow them. If you visit them you will follow the rules of their tier 2 area.

Thank you all for clarifying. I thought as much...

If people just stuck to the rules (or guidance or suggestions or common sense, whatever you want to call it at various stages it's been in place) we might not have needed to implement the different tiers, local lockdowns etc

@FamilyOfAliens I remember doing that early summer with DS and DBIL... planned a lovely BBQ drinks and catch up in the garden, gorgeous weather for weeks before and after but on the day it chucked it down so we were all huddled under umbrellas in coats in the garden and the 'bbq' food was cooked in the kitchen and plated up to be eaten in the rain

You sound very resourceful, OP