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UK public in Brexit was stupid SHOCK!

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Cam77 · 27/10/2020 09:02

50% believe Brexit was a mistake – a four per cent spike from the last survey, taken at the beginning of September. Just 39 per cent of people think the UK made the right decision to leave the EU, a drop of two per cent from earlier this month.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/fifty-per-cent-of-brits-think-brexit-was-a-bad-idea-shock-new-poll-finds/29/09/

And the shit wont even hit the fan until next year. We currently do more trade with Ireland than with Australia, Canada and India combined. We do more trade with the Netherlands than with China, Brazil and South Africa combined.

And the idea that China, the US etc will be rushing to give us better terms than we currently still enjoy as members of the hugely powerful EU trade block is fantastical nonsense. The British economy is going to be royally fucked over next year. I mean even more so than now. Will any journalists ask BJ why he spent two years actively encouraging this train wreck before he runs away from this disaster at Easter?

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Cam77 · 27/10/2020 09:05

Of course that should be “still currently still enjoy as recent ex-members”. That’s gone from Jan 1st. Prices are going to go through the roof.

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HerdyGerdy · 27/10/2020 09:06

The problem is is that people say the decision was a mistake and yet voted in the tories to totally fuck us over. Covid must have been manna from the gods for the Brexit secretary. It all gets buried.

TeenPlusTwenties · 27/10/2020 09:10

it is not surprising that ~50% think it was a mistake considering only slightly over 50% voted for it in the first place.

And voting in the Tories pre-supposes you blame the Tories for Brexit. Everyone knew the Tories were divided on Europe. But Labour failed to persuade its own voters to turn out to vote remain.

Cam77 · 27/10/2020 09:12

@HerdyGerdy
Short term it gets buried, yes. But when people notice their wallets are still considerably lighter this time 2021, 2022? While Europe is growing again? Of course the right wing press will make an almighty attempt to put the blame of Brexit on Labour, Corbyn’s brother, Remainer Starmer, the Greens, Borat, David Attenborough, Michaleangelo ... literally anywhere ANYWHERE but the Tory Party come the next election. Will people buy it? Probably. They bought Brexit, didn’t they?

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MacbookHo · 27/10/2020 09:12

It’s hideous. Like a bad dream.

Cam77 · 27/10/2020 09:15

@TeenPlusTwenties
“And voting in the Tories pre-supposes you blame the Tories for Brexit. Everyone knew the Tories were divided on Europe. But Labour failed to persuade its own voters to turn out to vote remain.”

See! It’s Labour’s fault! Blame the Tories for wrecking the country? Ridiculous. No, let’s blame Labour for FAILING TO STOP THE TORIES WRECKING THE ECONOMY!. (brought to you courtesy of the Mail,Express, Sun, Times, Tekegraph). Vote Conservative!

That’s it I’m off to bed.

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Cam77 · 27/10/2020 09:18

@TeenPlusTwenties
Well, it suggests the country is taking a monumental step which not even 4 in 10 actively agree with and 5 in 10 actively disagree with. These are pretty clear statistics.

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thegcatsmother · 27/10/2020 09:19

Europe might not be growing though. They can't agree on the MFF, the COVAID package hasn't been fully agreed, or started to be distributed. Italy can't meet her debt repayments, and neither can Spain. The banks are on the buffers; Soc Gen and Credit Agricole are very near the edge.

The ECB can try and fudge the issues, but the German Grund is keeping a close eye and will challenge the ECB again.

TeenPlusTwenties · 27/10/2020 09:23

Cam
I think Brexit is a mistake.
I also think we shouldn't make constituitionally changing decisions without a 2/3rd majority (and that includes both Brexit and Scottish independence) or 2 votes a minimum of 5 if not 10 years apart at 50%+.

But We live in a democracy. The people in their wisdom voted for Brexit. Part of democracy is accepting when the vote goes against your beliefs.

SchrodingersBox · 27/10/2020 09:29

Do you know what survey the article refers to? The article says yougov but I cannot find anything that asks that question on yougov.

DynamoKev · 27/10/2020 09:32

@SchrodingersBox

Do you know what survey the article refers to? The article says yougov but I cannot find anything that asks that question on yougov.
Good point - I went and looked on yougov too and found nothing. These polls tend to have a small sample size (around 1000) and look where believing polls got us anyway.
MereDintofPandiculation · 27/10/2020 10:07

I also think we shouldn't make constituitionally changing decisions without a 2/3rd majority (and that includes both Brexit and Scottish independence) or 2 votes a minimum of 5 if not 10 years apart at 50%+. But it was got through Parliament on the basis that it was advisory not binding. And I know people who voted leave to "send a message" confident that Parliament would make the decision and their leave vote wouldn't mean that we left.

catx1606 · 27/10/2020 10:19

They might have only asked 2000 people though? 39% out of 2000 isn't a lot. How many people did they ask?

frumpety · 27/10/2020 10:49

What difference do you think a poll is going to make ? The UK has left the EU. Even if every single person who voted leave said they now regret it, it won't make even the slightest bit of difference to the situation the UK is now in. We have left, all we can hope for over the next 67 days is some sort of workable deal that prevents too much instability and chaos.

Crankley · 27/10/2020 12:27

I note your link goes to a pro EU site, OP, so they are not likely to have anything positive to say on the subject, just like this and all the thousands of other threads and posts by Remainers on here over the past four years. I've checked the YouGov website and can't find the survey to which you refer. It doesn't matter much anyway.

Namechangeme87 · 27/10/2020 12:31

I mean almost half of us always thought it was a shit idea n voted accordingly ?

Will just have to see what happened tbh don’t have the headspace for it atm Sad

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