Am I the only person who thinks parents should feed their kids outside of school?

[HalloweenDoughnutAnyone]

Obviously it goes without saying I don't want any child to go hungry. But. Am I the only person who thinks parents should feed their kids outside of school?

Just that really.. it's free school dinners. Not free lunch all year round.

I don't understand why people think the tax payer should be paying even more? Maybe, if you can't afford to cover the basics (food and clothing) you should think twice before having a child?

Or should we extend free school dinners, to cover all the food a child needs inside and outside of school ?

I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush but I know people who rely on free school dinners. But have sky tv, expensive mobile contracts etc

Oh look, a benefits bashing thread. Haven't seen one of these for a while.

Of course parents should feed their dc, but these are really hard times for a lot of people. Does it matter as long as children don't go hungry?

Why should children suffer, they have no choice in any of this.

What would be better than holiday food vouchers would be to pay benefits fairly in the first place. People who have been working and are only unable to feed their children because of Covid should be being supported propelled so that they can afford to feed their children without needing to claim extra vouchers.

For children who do come from chaotic or stressful homes, providing actual meals in schools would be better than giving parents vouchers that come with their own problems anyway. A system of feeding children one meal a day over the holidays shouldn’t be restricted to children who’s parent’s income is too low, real meals should be available to all children who’d benefit from them.

I was hoping you were just some arsehole troll bot that was posting this for shits and giggles. Sadly it looks like you are a real person.

I’m sure the gutter press will be painting poor children and their families to be the scourge of Britain. And without them we would be a rich and prosperous nation. People like you just love to lap that shit up don’t you?

@MaskingForIt I know, it's all bizarre. Pretty much broken.

@Pumperthepumper

If I’ve learned anything today, it’s how ignorant and just plain fucking stupid people are in relation to poverty. And worse, they’re so proud of how thick they are, they’ve taken themselves off to Mumsnet, or Twitter, or Facebook and actually written posts about it, as if they’ve got some great insight that nobody else has ever thought of.

It’s absolutely mortifying - there’s a lot to be embarrassed about Britain of just now but there’s a special kind of burning embarrassment I feel for people like this OP.

Indeed. However, I think @HalloweenDoughnutAnyone is too selfish or thick to care

So MP getting a 3k payrise is acceptable but begrudging a child an extra 15 a week during holidays is not? People’s circumstances change all the time, I fled abuse and because of that lost residency of one child and he also wanted me homeless and with no money, I still have 2 young kids and he doesn’t give meow you for them, it’s hard even working. You have no idea to blanket judge. I don’t have sky or a flash mobile phone and yes food is in the cupboard and fridge always but it’s still 15 that would help so much you wouldn’t believe

I agree with a lot of what @CherryPavlova says. Perhaps we should have universal FSM.

There is a real issue of social mobility in this country but many just don't have the appetite for tax increases.

Personally I’d rather run the risk that a few feckless parents can take advantage than a child goes hungry.

Absolutely we should support children who aren't getting enough to eat! It could be due to tough financial circumstances or worse.

There's kids that come to school hungry and know they will get a meal at lunch. (Or sooner if the staff know.)

Imagine being that kid, everyone else is excited for the holidays, and you just know you will be hungry. No child deserves that.

Children should not go hungry regardless of whether their parents can't feed them for whatever reason or can afford and choose not to. Some people would let a child go cold and hungry to prove a point. Shame on you, imagine your own child in bed a night after no adequate food all day. People with that attitude begger belief.

Oh this is truly awful.

Yes in some perfect nirvana, all parents would provide for their children, never make any unwise decisions, never fall on bad times. Of course it is hard to understand why some parents chose cigarettes/mobile phones/Sky tv* over providing for their kids. But none of this is the kids’ faults.

I much rather my money goes on providing for these kids (even if a few shock horror don’t “need” the money). I’m quite sure that ensuring kids aren’t hungry has a massively positive impact on educational attainment and attendance and developments and goes at least some way to improving the cycle of poverty.

*delete as applicable

@PamDemic

Are you for real?

They do all have sky tv you're right. They smoke, they drink and (according to the other thread on this), they have low IQ too. They choose deliberately to have children with feckless men, and they scrounge so they get a council flat. Oh and they can't cook either. They have takeaways. All of them.

Or maybe you could educate yourself.

This is true for the benefit programmes filmed up North. Don't be ignorant and think that this isn't happening.

Op, I'm in two minds. I don't believe a child should go hungry and its why I give to my local food bank. Food is a necessity that no one should go without. People's circumstances change unfortunately and the children they could once afford, they no longer can. I read in the papers that a woman who was on 50k a year, lost her job at the start of lock down and was relying on the food bank. You just don't expect that to happen and its tragic.

On the other hand, a family who is on a low income, should think before they have a child(ren) Children are so expensive. From school uniforms/school trips/days outs and Christmas etc.
I missed out a lot growing up because I lived in poverty. I know I didnt have it as bad as some though. My parents had 3 kids on benefits. I don't agree with it and made sure I didn't do the same. Thats just my opinion.

On the other hand, a family who is on a low income, should think before they have a child(ren) Children are so expensive. From school uniforms/school trips/days outs and Christmas etc

Yes only rich people should be allowed children

I think a voucher scheme isn’t the same as feeding children. I have no objection to feeding children but handing out vouchers to parents does not necessarily mean children will not go hungry. There are parents out there who are terrible horrific parents. Go to any sink estate your eyes will open

What's with the
So confused?

I expect most people would prefer a world where parents all feed their children but I'd also like a world where feckless parents don't exist, where absent parents always contribute to their children's welfare, where addiction doesn't happen, where parents aren't widowed, where illness, disability or just plain misfortune don't scupper previously successful careers...

In the absence of that utopia, can't we just feed the kids? It's a minuscule amount of money in the scheme of things.

When I was a teenager, I would read Victorian novels and be horrified by the thoughtless cruelty of the past. I certainly didn't expect that by the time I hit middle age it would be socially acceptable to espouse the views of a Dickensian villain.

Yes only rich people should be allowed children

It’s not about being rich but working out if a salary can afford the costs of children and also future changes in circumstances if a relationship breaks down. People who don’t claim benefits have to live within their means so no different.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

On the other hand, a family who is on a low income, should think before they have a child(ren) Children are so expensive. From school uniforms/school trips/days outs and Christmas etc

Yes only rich people should be allowed children

No I never said rich people. People who are financially comfortable.

I am talking from experience. From my upbringing.

@RunBackwards

I expect most people would prefer a world where parents all feed their children but I'd also like a world where feckless parents don't exist, where absent parents always contribute to their children's welfare, where addiction doesn't happen, where parents aren't widowed, where illness, disability or just plain misfortune don't scupper previously successful careers...

In the absence of that utopia, can't we just feed the kids? It's a minuscule amount of money in the scheme of things.

But giving parents a voucher isn’t feeding the kids is it?

Fgs1, no and I agree a holiday scheme involving somewhere for children and/or families to go for activities and get a meal would be better but this is a start and we can't do those things at the moment.

@Fgs1

I think a voucher scheme isn’t the same as feeding children. I have no objection to feeding children but handing out vouchers to parents does not necessarily mean children will not go hungry. There are parents out there who are terrible horrific parents. Go to any sink estate your eyes will open

What is your alternative suggestion?

@RunBackwards

Fgs1, no and I agree a holiday scheme involving somewhere for children and/or families to go for activities and get a meal would be better but this is a start and we can't do those things at the moment.

Okay but why not deliveries of packed lunch to children on fsm. I just don’t see how a voucher will help it’s no guarantee children are getting a meal