To think Luther is torture porn?

[GroundAlmonds]

I know I’m late to the party here, but I’d never seen it until this week. I thought it was quite widely praised but it’s horrendous. Torture porn. I am really a bit sick.

They might as well have titled it “Never open your front door”. Everyone who does gets viciously murdered. I’ve just come downstairs again to see a courier swathing his way through an office attacking workers with a claw hammer and an acid spray. It is like a really bad video game. Everyone going down like nine pins.

DH has to watch it for a thing he’s doing but he’s either going to have to find something else that fits the criteria or go and watch it in the spare room.

I realise the first series was ten years ago but the BBC have carried in making it for a decade.

I have to admit I do love Miss Marple. I’m always amused by those who dismiss it as twee though. Granted, it’s not often that gory, but everyone is so cavalier about their being a murder and in some cases Miss Marple herself if sort of gleefully working out who done it. Almost every character comes across as a sociopath, oh well, the vicars been murdered, more tea? Chilling.

@AcornAutumn

Mittens - it wasn't about bombing raids.

Probably just a case of what I was used to when I saw it...!

Was it a scene at the pub?

@Amortentia

I agree with you. And the other thing that makes it completely chilling is that the murderers are always hanged.

I think the accusation that Miss Marple stories are twee is based on their old world setting, in a quaint English village. Poirot is based in London, so those stories possibly seem less twee.

OP - the scene @AcornAutumn is referring to in Foyle's War can't be the pub scene, as that was indeed a bombing raid, which killed a barmaid. Although I do recall that there was a particularly gruesome murder in that same episode, which might be what she's remembering.

There's also the murder of an 11 year old boy, who is an evacuee, in another episode. That's very chilling.

The only torturous thing about Luther is his boss in the first season...

I can’t handle really gruesome things but had no problem with Luther.

OP - no.

Let’s just say the horse wasn’t harmed, does that help?

I agree re the murderer woman thing. Ot was I initially didn’t watch Whitechapel as I was uncomfortable with the first season and more Ripper stuff. But interestingly they show photos and they are not the ones of the real victims. They did mockups instead.

I thought the one based on the Krays was fantastic. I loved them all really, but the characters were so well written.

Yeah I know what you mean OP. I quite enjoyed Luther at first but it just became increasingly disgusting. The same basic plot lines over and over again but just more and more gross and absurd.

The one with the surgeon who got sexually aroused by sticking needles in people was particularly rank.

The inevitable ‘there’s an off button’ and your don’t have to watch it’ comments are sooo dull and lazy. I think OP knows she doesn’t have to watch it but she has watched it and has formed a perfectly valid opinion on it having watched it.

I watched the first series and thought it was really boring!

Let’s just say the horse wasn’t harmed, does that help?

Oh yes, I think so. The wife?

@Buddytheelf85

Yeah I know what you mean OP. I quite enjoyed Luther at first but it just became increasingly disgusting. The same basic plot lines over and over again but just more and more gross and absurd.

The one with the surgeon who got sexually aroused by sticking needles in people was particularly rank.

The inevitable ‘there’s an off button’ and your don’t have to watch it’ comments are sooo dull and lazy. I think OP knows she doesn’t have to watch it but she has watched it and has formed a perfectly valid opinion on it having watched it.

Thanks. At least I’m not completely alone in this.

I will boot DH out of the main room. I don’t think I’ll bother with any more Peaky Blinders either, after this thread.

OP - yes, the magistrate’s wife.

Oddly, I was fine with Killing Eve.

Killing Eve had an arch, cartoonish quality, though.

I do think tone makes a difference. Either sharpening or dampening the impact of the violence.

I loved Luther and Whitechapel!
But I love horror films, and I wouldn't say Luther was anywhere near as bad as a horror film. I was surprised at hot fuzz too but thought it was really good lol

I agree- the first 3/4 episodes were horrific and also centred around women being killed off in awful, sexual ways which I find bloody tiresome as a trope (the one with the satanic ritual dude traumatised ed d me to this day, included baby-related horror as well which was not fun in a postnatal state)

@GroundAlmonds

Killing Eve had an arch, cartoonish quality, though.

I do think tone makes a difference. Either sharpening or dampening the impact of the violence.

I agree with your point about tone. I've been watching The Boys on Amazon. It's exceptionally violent literally how many ways can we think of to explode a person but it's done in such an OTT, cartoonish way that it seems less real and less impactful.

I'm not usually a fan of gratuitous violence but I loved Luther for the whole storyline (watched the worst bits through my fingers). Would not recommend Killing Eve for you OP, and another old one but we're watching Line of Duty now and again some of it is from behind my hand or a cushion!

I think Luther is brilliant. I read that the writer wrote about his own fears when writing his killers. That’s why there’s lots of masks and hiding under beds and twisted professionals. I have the same fears. I really enjoyed it.