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AIBU?

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School and (imho) unjustifiable risk.

124 replies

MincepieMavis · 16/10/2020 21:17

DD's primary school have invited a dancer to come in for a day to do workshops, including every child in the school. The children will see this person in their bubble groups. The dancer will be distanced and wearing a visor. The activity will take place outside if the weather is ok, or in their small school hall with the windows open if the weather is bad. Covid cases are on the increase, counties around us are moving up a tier right now. And someone in our household has a covid-relevant underlying condition.

Would you let your child take part?
Would you consent only if it took place outside? Or with other conditions?

It's a no from us unless it's outside, minimum. AIBU?

OP posts:
CaptainNelson · 16/10/2020 23:04

Agree with PPs that you've lost a sense of proportion about risk, OP. Just because your DC sees the same people every day doesn't mean they can't catch a virus. And it's really unlikely that your DC would catch the virus off shoes.

CodenameVillanelle · 16/10/2020 23:06

Jesus Christ
It's one extra person. You'll remove your child from school for a week?? Jesus.

Littleposh · 16/10/2020 23:07

You had clearly made your mind up before posting this, are you going to change your opinion now so many people think it's great idea or was just you looking for back up because deep down you know it's not very fair on your child to stop it??

Blacksheepcat · 16/10/2020 23:07

@Scarby9 ...hmmmm..... I work in a primary school and disagree I’m afraid. Staff room is open for all teachers to mix (yes they are supposed to stay 2m apart but......) and the poor lunchtime staff have to be in a room with every single year group...we’re talking 240+ pupils packed lunch and 240+ school dinners.
A visitor coming in to the school is nothing to worry about.

ReneeRol · 16/10/2020 23:08

There's as little risk as is possible when you leave the house. There's an entire generation of kids whose physical and mental health are going to be destroyed by this hysteria. Kids need to exercise, they're at very real risk in the long term if they don't.

manicinsomniac · 16/10/2020 23:11

I think YABU, sorry. This sounds like a very low risk activity in comparison to other things that are going in most schools. I suspect many parents think we are much more Covid secure than we actually are in reality.

Where I work we have visiting teachers every week for:
Ballet, Tap, Street Dance, LAMDA, Piano, Singing, Strings, Brass, Woodwind, Guitar, Drums, Tennis, Cricket, Golf, Yoga, Swimming, Fencing, Mandarin and Spanish.
If the children are in their bubbles, there is very little additional risk to them. All the risk assessments and adjustments were for the visiting teachers, not the children.

1starwars2 · 16/10/2020 23:12

For your child you should be supporting the school to make things like this happen.
Schools are open and should be as normal as possible.
The dancer can distance from the children.

manicinsomniac · 16/10/2020 23:13

And that's not including more occasional visitors - Ed Psychs (need to observe child in class and meet with several different staff), Photographer (children used from all bubbles) and Contractors (no direct contact but more adults on site)

Rainbowsoup · 16/10/2020 23:16

In the nicest way you’re being way over the top...

MoonJelly · 16/10/2020 23:17

This person who is coming in could have covid and be exposed to every child in the school on this one day. Distancing reduces risk but doesn't remove it. If it goes ahead indoors, opening the window is might help but again, doesn't remove risk

The same applies to every child and teacher in your child's bubble, and even more so to teachers crossing bubbles.

Covid also travels on feet/footwear as well

If this is a serious worry, talk to the school about arrangements to clean floors between sessions. But otherwise the risk is no greater than it is every time your children leave the house.

cabbageking · 16/10/2020 23:17

Each school is different, as is their risk assessment based on the school build and needs etc.
They will have reduced risks as much as possible.
Doing dance outside with the teacher at distance will be no more risky than any PE lesson.
Most visits to school only take place if absolutely necessary. Governors shouldn't be visiting and music provision only if safe. We have no music School lessons but another school might have the space to do so.

MoonJelly · 16/10/2020 23:19

I'm not sure that the school actually has to ask for your consent to your child taking part in this activity, given that it does not involve anyone leaving the school premises. If you are proposing to keep your child off school, bear in mind that you will be liable to be fined.

Cuppaand2biscuits · 16/10/2020 23:20

I work in a primary school and I think you'd be very surprised about how much the staff mix between bubbles.
This sounds like a great activity, yabu to not let your children participate.

RubyViolet · 16/10/2020 23:22

Bubbles are non existent in schools.

Whyisitsodifficult · 16/10/2020 23:24

Your poor kid, I hope you’re not passing your anxiety onto her! Read the replies and really think about the risk. Do you consider how many people die on the roads everyday, does it stop you driving your child? So many things wrong with your post.

Theimpossiblegirl · 16/10/2020 23:27

I'm afraid you're being a bit OTT.
You might be following the rules, but many families will be having sleepovers, playdates etc. Just the presence of siblings makes the bubbles pretty much meaningless, let alone car shares, child care arrangements, park visits, etc.
I'm the cover teacher at a small village primary, I'm in every bubble. We're doing our best but no way are schools 'Covid secure' and if you think they are, you're being a bit naïve.
One dancer won't tip the balance with Covid but will be a lovely activity during pretty shit times. Let the kids get some joy and fun where they can.

Writerandreader · 16/10/2020 23:29

Genuinely Op you are massively over worrying. Covid is transmitted in close contact ie. People hugging or sitting very close to each other talking or spending long periods together. It really really isn't spread by someone several feet away. Cases spread at the moment througj students who don't social distance or people on public transport or in poor working conditions like warehouses and factories.

Honestly people have lost perspective on this..covid is not being spread by shoes.

Writerandreader · 16/10/2020 23:30

And primary aged children are 1 6th as likely to pass on covid. Even if they get it which they are much less likely to than an adult.

Juststopswimming · 16/10/2020 23:31

Another one to say how lovely this sounds. I would definitely let my kids go to this.

AdelaideK · 16/10/2020 23:33

I think it sounds fine. One person and you want to pull your child out of school seems so extreme.

IAintentDead · 16/10/2020 23:37

Deprive your child

If that's your decision

yep deprive your child

Coffeeandbeans · 16/10/2020 23:55

Your child will love it.

Tink88 · 17/10/2020 00:11

Are you keeping your child isolated apart from school? You sound very anxious and over the top

dancinfeet · 17/10/2020 00:20

YABVU the dance teacher is at far more risk. I say this as a dance teacher who teaches students who attend many different schools and colleges between them, then come to their dance class as an out of school activity.

PurpleFrames · 17/10/2020 00:25

Surely this is a joke!?