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WIBU to travel from a tier 2 area in these circumstances?

12 replies

embrioderedheart · 16/10/2020 18:56

I haven't looked into this properly because I'm still reeling but I will do before doing anything but want opinions first.

An elderly aunt who I loved very dearly died yesterday (not Covid). I live 4 hours away and hadn't seen her since February. She spent a lot of the year in hospital and had found telephones increasingly difficult so I've not had much contact at all.

She lived in Wales (where I'm from) but I now live in a tier 2 area of England. I would so much love to be able to accompany dm (who lives in a tier 1 area of England) to my aunt's house. The house was rented so I imagine we won't have access for long and the thought of never going there again is so painful to me. She had lived there for years and years and I used to visit as a child and it is the essence of her. I want to visit and pick up some bits but I suppose I can't.

I was thinking of picking up dm from her place and going via there, though she is capable of going on public transport but without me she'll go alone - df is useless. I can't can I?

I work in a school but broke up yesterday so if I went say Tues/Weds I would ahve been isolating for 4-6 days - I will isolate.

I don't even know if I'll be allowed to go to the funeral but right now I just so want to go to the house but if I went there I know I would then want to go to the funeral.

What does everyone think?

OP posts:
Evenstar · 16/10/2020 19:00

I think the exemption of providing care for someone would surely apply for you driving your mother there. I am in a Tier 1 area though and not totally clear on the rules. Sorry for your loss 💐

funnylittlefloozie · 16/10/2020 19:00

Just go. Go with your mum and say goodbye to your aunt properly. Wash your hands, wear a mask and minimise contact with other people.

I am sorry for your loss Flowers

KarlKennedysDurianFruit · 16/10/2020 19:01

I thought tier two was essential travel only, surely a funeral/bereavement counts as that? Not sure of the rules in Wales though

pussycatinboots · 16/10/2020 19:04

I'd go. Your mum will need the support.
Flowers

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 16/10/2020 19:07

I didn't think Wales were letting anyone in from high covid areas in England and I heard something on Radio 4 that hinted the police might be stopping UK registered cars coming in over the border to check where occupants have come from.

LastGoldenDaysOfSummer · 16/10/2020 19:07

Go. You are providing care and support.

InTheLongGrass · 16/10/2020 19:11

I think picking up your Mum and going to your aunts is the right thing to do. It may be against guidance, but it's not illegal.
However, check the law about going to Wales. You might find it is not lawful, and you could be fined.

Brighterthansunflowers · 16/10/2020 19:21

I’m sorry for your loss OP Flowers

Travel from tier 2 areas to other areas of England is allowed however it’s now illegal to travel to wales from tier 2 or 3 areas except for specific reasons. It’s been illegal to travel into the locked down areas of wales for a while (exceptions for specific reasons)

And I would expect it to be well policed this weekend as it’s the first few days of it

I think it depends on how vulnerable your mum is and whether it could count as providing care. Possibly not since it’s not her who you’re coming in to wales to see but I’m not sure. I would hope police took the situation into account if you are stopped but it’s so new, who knows.

I don’t think the fine is particularly high though so it’s up to you.

Please take sensible precautions if you do go though!

Runningjump · 16/10/2020 19:21

Just go.

Even in tier 3, travel is only advised against. There are no rules or laws to prevent this.

Southwest12 · 16/10/2020 19:27

The ban on anyone from tier 2/3 entering Wales does have attending a funeral (but not the wake) as a reasonable excuse, but I'm not sure that just visiting a house would be allowed. I've read that they are using numberplate recognition to enforce the ban.

Venicelover · 16/10/2020 19:27

I would go OP, these are exceptional circumstances.

FlyingFlamingo · 16/10/2020 19:30

@Runningjump as of 6pm this evening there absolutely are laws to prevent anyone entering Wales from a tier 2 or 3 area.

I would have thought this would count as providing care however as her house will need clearing?

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