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To wish my parents would just get a divorce...

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Alexa1990 · 14/10/2020 09:57

So I can stop continually being stuck in the middle and to see them fulfil their lives and enjoy mine.

Apologies in advance if any terms I use aren't correct, if anything offends anyone- I am just a bit down, fed up and upset about it and posting for traffic and support.

Long long backstory but father has bipolar (diagnosed 25yrs ago), mother has depression and is generally quite negative and guarded- although would do things for others to be kind. My father is up and down, but mostly a kind, happy albeit a bit too full on/over friendly man- who thinks everyone is his friend. I don't think If I sat down and said - why are you together they would name any other reason other than financially it is easier. Occasionally he reaches times of deep stress and gets v low. Or goes on a high- which of course isn't easy.

My mother is on antidepressants and without them doesn't cope well, has never really seemed that happy and I would argue she lived her life through me and my hobbies and my father through my siblings sport- I won't say what they are as this is already a rather outting post . She doesn't seem to have many friends and admitted she is shy- but the issue really is she comes across as negative, will say comments without any real awareness (sober and drunk) that what she is saying is offensive to the other person. She has one hobby finally and this consumes her time and a part time job. My father is retired but desperately trying to find work and always has "something on the go" .

Both my parents drink every evening, and of a weekend sometimes from lunch. Not spirits but beer and wine. My mother speaks her mind when she's had wine and when I am home not a single nice thing is being said between her and my father. The bicker non stop. It isn't fun to be around

I went home the other weekend and they barely spoke- my mother used me to vent and tell me everything Dad had said and done recently, how the house move was concerning her, my father was either at the pub, or home on his laptop, or in his "office"- he barely spoke to me other than to tell me what I needed to move out of the house, oh and his parting comment (try and go for some runs in London). My mother also said "Im surprised you bought a dress for said friends wedding as you might be smaller by then- I am a size 8/10 instead of my pre lockdown size 6-8. I drove back to London downbeat and sad.

Myself- live in London, return home to escape to the country and spend time with them and see local friends, I am in my early thirties. I have a lot of pressure to "come home"- a lot. If I ever previously suggested Xmas with a partner, or holiday instead the disappointment I was shown made me feel intensely guilty. I am currently single so do not have that support- and I would add most exes of myself and sibling don't enjoy their company together.

They are due to move house shortly and the constant arguing about it is awful.

My mother has said previously comments such as "If I had my time again I wouldn't have been with your father" - "I could've had a better life without him" and "It is easier to live a down trodden existence than speak up and annoy him"

I grew up with the belief of not being able to speak up for myself, being careful of what I said around my father (told to me by mother) and realise now that I am scared to speak up for myself. I am actually a kind, confident and happy individual (albeit my mental health struggles)

I was seeing a weekly therapist until lockdown, but I do not feel it gets my anywhere. I have this strange pull back to my parents of not being able to confront the situation, put my foot down and say "I am not coming home if this is the way it is"

I am in the process of searching for a home outside of London so I can have space away from them- part of me wants to buy two Hours away and then get some distance. I am absolutely dreading the house move (I need to move some of my belongings out into storage) and even more so I am dreading Christmas. I cannot remember a Christmas I didn't go to my room and cry.

At the same time they do a lot for me (help with house moves, look after my dog if needed etc!) and of course I love them both.

I just don't actually know how to tackle or help them and thus me. I don't even know why I am posting other than I just broke down in tears for a moment when she ended a phone call with me (I phoned for a catch up) because "Dad needed her and when I said to tell him to wait she said - its easier to live a down trodden life"....

My concerns- they'd be lost without me
Both have previously said we would all be better off without them and that makes me concerned suicide would cross their mind.

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pippistrelle · 14/10/2020 13:58

I think you need to start seeing a therapist again. Maybe not the same one, if you felt you weren't getting anywhere. This is a mess, OP, but it's not your mess, although they seems to be doing their best to drag you into it. They seem like a pair of toxic individuals in a toxic relationship without the self-awareness to see that. But you have self-awareness, as well as awareness of their situation. But you need to concentrate on helping yourself.

Good luck.

justilou1 · 14/10/2020 14:10

Therapist, yes!!! You may find that they are actually co-defendant, despite the way they speak about each other. My parents were the same. Absolutely nothing good to say to or about each other - BUT...When dad died, mum was desperately lonely without him to constantly snipe at and bitch about, so she turned him into a saint. (He really, really wasn’t!) Mum didn’t know who she was without him.

Ladywinesalot · 14/10/2020 14:19

Op I get it.

They refuse to take responsibility for the joy in their life and drag you into their miserable existence.
That is their joy.

They are not your emotional responsibility and it is not your fault the way they are.

When you go back to see friends limit your time with your parents.
Eventually when you have your own family they will guilt you more and more as your priorities will no longer be them.

They are selfish and will suck the life out of you.
It’s why you cry at Christmas. It’s meant to be a happy time but they ruin it with their misery.
They will never change.

Boredbumhead · 14/10/2020 14:30

You can't really change their behaviour only your own.

It sounds like you need to disengage a bit. Do you feel a bit of an enabler? No need to go for Xmas if you don't want to.

VintageStitchers · 14/10/2020 14:41

I’m sorry you’re feeling so down about your parents marriage but I think you need to change here, not them.

Start by finding a different therapist who will help you learn to accept the situation as it is and to set your own boundaries regarding contact.

They are not selfish as such, after all they help you out in various ways, but they are entitled to live their lives as they choose to do.

Equally, you do not have to accept their demands on your time and energy. Only give what you feel comfortable doing.

My dad was an alcoholic and my mum was very sad about the choices she had made in life, partly due to being in the middle of a world war and thinking she might not live to see the next week! Looking back, I just see two people who were both suffering, together and apart within their marriage.

What I don’t do is use it as an excuse to not live my life as best I can. I own my choices and so should you.

Graphista · 14/10/2020 16:26

Op I'm from an abusive marriage and they're still together too.

You have to reach a point where you understand and accept that they are CHOOSING to stay together however unhealthy the relationship is.

It's not actually your business - and yes I know all of that is really hard to hear and get your head around but it's honestly true.

When you do reach that point - possibly through therapy - you will actually feel much calmer and less stressed by their nonsense and complaining.

I know that sounds counterintuitive but I promise you it's true

I'm actually dreading one of them dying as the other will absolutely not cope without them, I won't be at all surprised if the other dies very soon after from natural causes purely from the stress of the grief.

Alexa1990 · 20/10/2020 13:17

Sorry to have not replied sooner- thank you for all the responses. I really appreciate it

I’ll try and sort some therapy over zoom (just a strange time!)

I have tried and am starting to make steps towards being less attached!

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Sunnydaysstillhere · 20/10/2020 13:19

Remember to send the therapist invoice to your dps..
Love them or not you need to step back.
They are damaging your mh..

Buttons47 · 20/10/2020 13:33

This is not really an answer to your question. But your situation reminds me so much of my own family. I have recently started attending online meetings from an organisation called Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families. It's very similar to Alcoholics Anonymous, except that the people who attend share stories and advice about growing up in homes where there was alcoholism and/or dysfunction. I've found it tremendously helpful just to go to the meetings and listen, I've only shared about my family occasionally when I feel like it, you certainly don't have to share if you don't want to. Might be worth a go, more info on adultchildren.org

Caeruleanblue · 20/10/2020 13:43

There's a book by Melody Beattie called Codependent no more which you might find interesting, her follow up wasn't so good imv.
Can you spend time with your sibling rather than your parents. It's difficult when you're single not to want to go 'home' sometimes. I wouldn't get involved in the house move, get yourself out and your stuff out of the house. Leave them to it.

Alexa1990 · 21/10/2020 07:49

Thanks for the responses. It’s actually just re assuring to hear I am not alone and also that I don’t just have to suck it up and get on with it because they’re my family.

I’m making baby steps towards having all my stuff out of there so I feel more free- Covid restrictions aren’t exactly helping things.

I will sign back up to therapy over zoom and give it a go- annoyingly I have to re start they said and do an initial assessment again which I find a bit frustrating going over old ground etc.

I will also try that website and group as I didn’t know such a thing was out there.

It’s so tough as they really are well meaning and generous. I am trying to just let comments pass me by, not react, etc! It’s just in the long run really. The comment that originally made me open up to Mumsnet will always stick with me.

I’m also worried that my father is about to have another breakdown, or whatever happens in bipolar when they reach breaking point. I’m not even sure where to begin in terms of that.

Thank you everyone. So reassuring to know I’m not alone. And that my decision to perhaps distance myself for a few years by moving locations isn’t “stupid”.

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