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High Earners on MN?

811 replies

BitOfFun · 13/10/2020 08:49

How? The actual leader of my county council doesn't earn more than £100K- where and what are all these super-maxed out occupations? I genuinely don't understand how mumsnetters (often relatively young) access these magic jobs I've never heard of.

YABU- they are there for the taking, you just made poor choices

YANBU- people here are very creative and there's an outside chance they may be lying exaggerating.

OP posts:
G5000 · 13/10/2020 12:33

The conversation about high earners being able to spend time online is an interesting one. I can genuinely say that my early and mid-career were much more taxing and time consuming than where I am now.

Absolutely! All nighters and being available 24/7 were expected when I was just starting. Now? Well I might work an occasional evening, if I have taken a couple of hours in the middle of the day to take DS to his basketball game. I'm not paid for keeping my chair warm with my backside.

Upherefordancing · 13/10/2020 12:35

@Rainydays14 gosh well done your DS!

My DS is similar but currently in first year of 6th form college. He's extremely motivated, bright and ambitious but not sure if he wants to go to university as we seem to be surrounded by young successful entrepreneurs where we live!

I'd be interested to know what your DS studied and what job it led too, as I'm wondering now that an academic path may suit my DS better (as it did me). PM me if it's more appropriate.

theemmadilemma · 13/10/2020 12:38

@MrsJBaptiste

I don't think some people understand how much shit you take to earn a lot of money

God, I do understand which is why I’d never want some of the jobs people do on here to get their £100-150,000 salary.

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

This is so true. Apart from the lucky most jobs earning that much money don't come with great work/life balance. They pay you that much because they take so much.
AgeLikeWine · 13/10/2020 12:42

I graduated a teetotal virgin.

Shock

So that’s where I went wrong....

After three very enjoyable years at university, I was most certainly neither of this things. No regrets, though.

gwenneh · 13/10/2020 12:43

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

Can confirm, this is how I live -- time "off" is never really off at all, and that included the three times I should have had maternity leave. And there's a constant level of stress that (I hope) the team I manage is insulated from because it is literally my job to be worried about it.

It is incredibly difficult to find balance and very draining.

Autumnchills · 13/10/2020 12:43

@theemmadilemma the older I get, the more I progress in my career, the less I believe that is true. Where I work I see tonnes of people on mega salaries who have a great work life balance.

Lily193 · 13/10/2020 12:46

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

This may be true for some high earners but we certainly don't do any of that. Not every high paying job is stressful and demanding.

VinylDetective · 13/10/2020 12:47

Not every high paying job is stressful and demanding

What’s the justification for it being highly paid then?

theemmadilemma · 13/10/2020 12:48

@Autumnchills You know what, thinking about it, you're right too.

I think there are times of both for those people There are certainly points where it's really comfortable. I'm comfortable now, decent salary, good work/life balance. But I see that if I want to push upwards again, that's going to have to change back again to working those extra hours, making myself available etc. I see it further up the chain with those pushing up.

But I agree there are certainly positions once you get to, you can have a nice work/life balance.

I hope that makes sense.

SRS29 · 13/10/2020 12:48

@9toenails

VanCleefArpels: All require high academic qualifications and a shed load of self sacrifice to get to those senior levels.

This made me smile. Yes, indeed, ... or, failing that, rich parents, Eton and Christ Church will do the trick.

Sorry, not always. Very dysfunctional childhood, left school with very few qualifications, have worked full time since I was 18 and through sheer hard work, determination and study in my spare time have a career I love, base salary of 6 figs plus bonus etc. job is based from home with European travel (not at the moment though!). It is a good example to our teenage daughters however we do not let up on the.need for them to focus/study etc. for their futures. DH very similar earning power with an excellent education/degree etc.
ShirleyPhallus · 13/10/2020 12:49

@VinylDetective

Not every high paying job is stressful and demanding

What’s the justification for it being highly paid then?

The years of training, knowledge and expertise behind it and the demand for it
Cam77 · 13/10/2020 12:49

A lot about managers, lawyers etc. Another group earning big money are running their own businesses, often with a substantial online element.

ShirleyPhallus · 13/10/2020 12:50

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

Can confirm this isn’t true for me or my DH either.

G5000 · 13/10/2020 12:55

What’s the justification for it being highly paid then?

there is an old boilermaker who was hired to fix a huge steamship boiler system that was not working well. After listening to the engineer’s description of the problems and asking a few questions, he went to the boiler room.

He looked at the maze of twisting pipes, listened to the thump of the boiler and the hiss of the escaping steam for a few minutes, and felt some pipes with his hands. Then he hummed softly to himself, reached into his overalls and took out a small hammer, and tapped a bright red valve one time. Immediately, the entire system began working perfectly, and the boilermaker went home.

When the steamship owner received a bill for a thousand dollars, he became outraged and complained that the boilermaker had only been in the engine room for fifteen minutes and requested an itemized bill. So the boilermaker sent him a bill that reads as follows:

For tapping the valve: $.50
For knowing where to tap: $999.50

StarUtopia · 13/10/2020 12:58

Not being goady, but I think I’d struggle to name many people in my high school year who are on under £80k, and that was in a fairly standard rural non-fee paying school.

What a load of bullshit!!

Oh and no, not being goady, just being a dickhead!

OP. Ignore. Most people I know earn between £30-£40k. All with degrees.

Nestme · 13/10/2020 12:58

I work in IT and the Sales guys, many of whom are the Midlands, Manchester, Scotland, Dublin earn crazy money that isn't location specific - and the qualifications aren't extensive. I am constantly gob smacked at how much relatively uneducated IT Sales guys earn, many aren't paying SE property prices either as you can live anywhere. Many of them are on 4/5/600K+ a year, if the company is doing well of course.

Littleposh · 13/10/2020 13:01

I knew an educational psychologist in the North on 80 grand

Lily193 · 13/10/2020 13:06

The years of training, knowledge and expertise behind it and the demand for it

Yes, absolutely for my role.

SRS29 · 13/10/2020 13:08

@ShirleyPhallus

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

Can confirm this isn’t true for me or my DH either.

Same here
Cassilis · 13/10/2020 13:10

I don't earn that, but I think it's about getting into a great grad scheme. Many Grads get £30k as a starting salary, and then within 2 years they can be manager level 45k pa.

Location also helps. I didn't do a grad scheme (big mistake) I'm working class but live in London, got my foot in the door in an industry and then have just stuck at it. Surrounded by privately educated colleagues which can be dispiriting at times.

woofwoof1880 · 13/10/2020 13:11

Who wants to have to cancel dinner with friends as they suddenly have to work? Who takes their laptop on holiday as they can’t get away from the office? Who wants to be constantly on their phone during a family day out? All necessary I’m sure when on high salaries but I’d rather switch off at 6pm Friday night and worry about work again when I wake up on Monday morning.

The only time I did any of this is when I was early in my career and on a low salary. As I've progressed and earned more money I've gained the skills to managed my time, set expectations as to what others will get from me and leaned how to switch off. It's hard knowing how to do this without experience.

TownHallDesigner · 13/10/2020 13:11

@VinylDetective

Not every high paying job is stressful and demanding

What’s the justification for it being highly paid then?

Niche skills in a lot of cases.

I’m literally the only person in my country who does the job I do in the industry I work in.

If I left, I’m sure they’d find someone from the same industry willing to upskill, or someone with the skills willing to learn about the industry. Other companies in the same industry tend to buy in my expertise, usually from very expensive consultancies who operate across different, often complementary, industries.

My company is the only one in the country doing what we do on a huge scale therefore needing a dedicate team to do it.

I know I’m not indispensable. If I left tomorrow they’d find someone else, and the salary would make it very attractive to someone willing to take six months of pain to get up to speed. In the meantime, they’d have to pay a consultancy to keep my projects going at the cost of millions.

But they’re happy with me, I’m happy with them, I have a great work-life balance, save them a fuck-tonne of money- we all benefit.

The idea that everyone who is highly paid is working 16 hour days and getting their eggs frozen at 22 is another dangerous myth.

Absolutely there are many companies out there who want slaves instead of employees, but that’s true of minimum wage jobs also. In fact, in my career, the most awful job I had was when I was unskilled, paid around £20k (including shift allowance) and expected to be available 24/7 and drop what I was doing if my psychotic boss demanded something. I would literally get a call to say they needed me in work and when I said I couldn’t as I didn’t have transport, they’d tell me a taxi was dispatched for me. He would actually stand at his office door and scream at us, calling us all cunts and telling us how he’d have us all on the dole.

He’s a very well known entrepreneur and was often on tv. Generally regarded as a classy businessman.

He was the kick up the arse I needed to seriously look at my options, and I was able to return to education part time and retrain.

Extreme example, I know, but my life became much easier once I hit a certain level of expertise and had the security of knowing I was more easily employable.

Nestme · 13/10/2020 13:11

yes apart from the jammy IT sales guys, everyone I know in a well paid job, including IT grunts, has sacrificed a lot of free time, leisure time, family time, partying time etc staying up late into the night studying, taking exams etc, myself included, right back from school days - although I was always a "burn the candle at both ends" typs so did manage a bit of partying :)

And throughout lockdown, most people I know have been relaxing, painting the house, doing some classes, going to the gym etc whereas the people I am referring to - those with well paid professional jobs, have been relentlessly working ...

CakeRequired · 13/10/2020 13:11

Surely you understand the one person you know is likely not representative?

Yes but the other point I made earlier is that I actually know that person. You are a stranger on the Internet. You could be unemployed, working in a bakery, a call centre, a lawyers office etc. You are anonymous. Where is the proof that you're not lying? You gain nothing by being truthful, you might gain some other anonymous admirers by lying. Some people thrive on that.

I know others in high paying jobs, again they work all hours. How many posts on here have there been of sahms upset that their partner (a man generally) is working all hours, even on holiday, for a very high salary? Did we lose count at 1000?

Funny how when these threads pop up, it's all women on high salaries, easy jobs that are 9-5 and they can look after their kids easily. It's almost like it's not real..

areyoubeingserviced · 13/10/2020 13:12

I would also encourage women to look at jobs where there are a shortage of women as companies are eager to tick boxes.