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Huge funerals.

30 replies

Serin · 09/10/2020 20:40

www.wigantoday.net/news/people/dozens-turn-out-say-goodbye-wigan-dad-who-died-car-crash-2998777
So how is this within the law? When this is an area in local lockdown?
I feel so sorry for local residents who are only allowed to have 6 at funerals and arent allowed to mix households at all.
AIBU to think the law should apply equally to everyone.

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adawong · 09/10/2020 20:44

yanbu but this won't last very long.

LastGoldenDaysOfSummer · 09/10/2020 21:00

Total disgrace. Cops scared to do the right thing.

Arrogant people ignoring the law should be prevented from such stupidity that puts others at risk.

NailsNeedDoing · 09/10/2020 21:05

I’m not going to pretend that the law applies equally to everyone in all cases, but on this one, the police would have probably dealt with any other large group the same. What do you honestly expect them to do that won’t ignite a riot when there are that many people mourning a tragic death?

Newfornow · 09/10/2020 21:11

Recent funeral 30 people allowed outside.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/10/2020 21:13

Pure class. The crash could have caused the deaths of many innocent people.

Asterion · 09/10/2020 21:15

Well it's not within the law. But I guess the police didn't want it all kicking off.

Evenstar · 09/10/2020 21:37

I actually think this ought to be a case where the police should be able to call on army support, nobody should be above the law even if they are violent and lawless and outnumber the police. This event was an insult to the other people who were injured in the accident and to thousands of law abiding families who have stuck to the rules round funerals at enormous emotional cost.

Chloemol · 09/10/2020 21:53

Funerals are allowed 30 as long as SD is met

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/10/2020 21:55

@Evenstar

I actually think this ought to be a case where the police should be able to call on army support, nobody should be above the law even if they are violent and lawless and outnumber the police. This event was an insult to the other people who were injured in the accident and to thousands of law abiding families who have stuck to the rules round funerals at enormous emotional cost.
Then the army AND the police get the virus and they travel to and from the funeral in cramped vans spreading it around.

No ta.

Nothing stopping their faces being photographed and fines issued.

Serin · 09/10/2020 22:10

I think the army have some pretty good PPE.

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windowpaine · 09/10/2020 22:15

The law should apply to everyone, yes. That's saidX of all the things to get bothered about re covid restrictions being broken, I can't say a funeral should ever be one of them.

Brighterthansunflowers · 09/10/2020 22:24

YANBU

Won’t be remotely surprised if it ends up being identified as a super spreader event in a few weeks time.

Thousands of people have lost loved ones and still stuck to the rules. My grandmother died (not from covid) with only a nurse to hold her hand due to the restrictions and several of her children couldn’t attend her funeral.

These people should have followed the law as well and the police should’ve enforced it. It’s obvious why they didn’t but that doesn’t make it right.

wafflethewonderdog · 09/10/2020 22:37

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Time4change2018 · 09/10/2020 22:45

Once that number as gathered it probably would have caused a lot of disruption and angst within the community and taken longer to clear / disperse than the funeral took.
Don't agree with it at all but the police are in a no win situation and need to pick the battles they have the resources to win and control.
Watching and observing from a distance was probably safest for all.
Good to see pubs closed locally to prevent increasing the issues

Serin · 09/10/2020 22:56

Brighterthansunflowers
I'm sorry to hear about your Grandmother.
I'm a HCP and 2 of my DC are nurses.
I know it's no consolation at all but whoever held her hand will have treated her as their own family and they will never forget her.
Flowers

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Brighterthansunflowers · 09/10/2020 23:01

@Serin thank you so much, that’s so kind of you to share. I know the whole family are so grateful to that nurse for being with her. I’m sure your patients families are as well

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Bargebill19 · 09/10/2020 23:42

Arranging mil funeral. Argument already breaking out of the fact only 15 people can attend. Quietly hoping stricter restrictions come in so non of the spoilt brats can attend.
I get the police felt it better to let the funerals/wakes play out but - it’s left me with a huge headache of saying ‘just because ether did it doesn’t make it legal for you/us to do it, so no your best friend can’t attend your mothers funeral’ ...

Asterion · 09/10/2020 23:44

Those crowds weren't let in to the funeral venue, though. And neither will your MIL's relations be, once 15 are in.

Nat6999 · 09/10/2020 23:49

There was a massive traveller funeral in my city during lockdown, at least 300 attended. The police refused to get involved. It caused a lot of bad feeling from others who had lost loved ones & weren't allowed to attend funerals. It is discrimination because if anyone else had tried to do the same they would have been out in force to break up the gatherings.

gobbynorthernbird · 09/10/2020 23:58

Can I ask if all the racists felt the same way about the funerals for Vera Lynn and Jack Charlton?

Bargebill19 · 10/10/2020 00:33

@Asterion
There is that - and it will be caught on camera for me to watch (I’m not going as apparently I’m too much) whilst I raise a glass of red wine to mil.

LastGoldenDaysOfSummer · 10/10/2020 08:25

@gobbynorthernbird

Can I ask if all the racists felt the same way about the funerals for Vera Lynn and Jack Charlton?
Who are the racists?
Serin · 10/10/2020 08:48

gobbynorrhernbird
I dont consider myself a racist.
There is one law for all people.
Princess Beatrice managed to adhere to it with her wedding.
Christian's had Easter cancelled.
Muslims had Eid cancelled.
If Jack Charlton's and Vera Lynn's funerals broke the law then I certainly feel the same way.

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QueenArseClangers · 10/10/2020 08:51

I’ve organised traveller funerals.

During Covid the family were terrified of catching it and taking it to their vulnerable family members. We got a call from the cemeteries office concerned that crowds would turn up.
On the day lots of vehicles followed the cortège but all the mourners stayed outside the cemetery in their cars/vans.

The family stuck to the regulations and social distancing.