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These American militia are terrifying

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Tellmetruth4 · 09/10/2020 07:42

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/08/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot

If they aren’t happy they are allowed to protest so why instead do they choose to dress like Rambo and plan insane terrorist plots? The Governor and other Democrat Governors, especially women (calling her ‘the bitch’ shows they hate women in powerful positions), must find it so hard to relax in their own homes let alone sleep.

How has it come to this in a supposedly modern democratic country? America is looking more like a 90s former Soviet Block country by the day.

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RusholmeRuffian · 09/10/2020 10:20

They are not Militia. They are terrorists.

emptyplinth · 09/10/2020 19:55

Awful. The fact that they think they have endorsement, tacit or otherwise, from the actual fucking president, shows that the US is in real trouble.

AbsentmindedWoman · 09/10/2020 19:59

It's really scary. I heard it on the news as I was getting up and ready to go out the door earlier and it was surreal.

As I was walking through Brooklyn I couldn't help thinking of The Handmaid's Tale when they show 'normal' society beginning to break down - everything is still functioning alongside the disturbing news, until suddenly it isn't.

emptyplinth · 09/10/2020 20:13

AbsentmindedWoman I hope you don't see people like this in Brooklyn. That would be the actual end of the world Angry

LaurieFairyCake · 09/10/2020 20:18

They're being condoned by Trump - he's asked them to police the elections Shock

DameFanny · 09/10/2020 20:26

@RusholmeRuffian

They are not Militia. They are terrorists.
+1000
AmandaHoldensLips · 09/10/2020 20:59

It's fucking mind boggling that these crazy morons are actually allowed to arm themselves to the teeth and terrorise people with complete impunity.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/10/2020 21:01

Mad as a bag of frogs. But a very well connected bag of frogs.

Godwins Law and all that but this is what wannabe fascists and dictators do. Just saying.

SomeoneInTheLaaaaaounge · 09/10/2020 21:26

We are through the looking glass now people

user1471565182 · 09/10/2020 21:32

Thank god they have gun rights to protect them from authoritarian, corrupt, unstable presidents.....

BiBabbles · 09/10/2020 21:57

The how is their words: Liberate. Sacrifice. Patriot.

This is a modern democratic country that raises children with stories of the War of American Independence and the acts of 'revolutionary' terrorism around it against an unjust government are the height, the best of what an American can be. Over and over, the battle of Lexington and Concord, the Boston 'massacre', King George III ordered the seizure of any firearms imported into the colonies, unfair taxes without representation (the latter of which the US is now the master at.) and so on. Many of the philosophy of that war are rarely touched on, but the violence remains in these types of groups today.

Violence as a viable praiseworthy solution is bred deep on in the bones in many areas and so many politicians have used and abused that over the years -- that they are just and their opposition is out to kill, maim, and destroy. One of the main concerns about next month is the legitimacy problem - that that concept has been fed in so much that no matter who wins, so many won't believe it - and then what's going to happen?

The comparisons to the former Soviet Union is interesting, I think there are parallels some parts of the Bloc. There are already many who have been saying the Union will dissolve for years now, though I don't think it's as soon as some fear, I think if/when it happens, the US is going to be far worse in terms of some taking radical terrorist actions when so many other Americans are just so worn out and tired by it all. Some I know are so tired that this horrible shite doesn't even come as a surprise as anymore. The most surprising part of it is that it happened in Michigan. If this was Oregon or New Mexico, which tend to more of an issue with these types and I think also have women Democrat govenors, I think it would have been even less surprising.

user1471565182 · 09/10/2020 22:12

Michigan has always had a very shady edge to be fair, despite its position on the map

Sheogorath · 09/10/2020 22:26

So this is what trump meant when he said his people would be watching.

longwayoff · 09/10/2020 22:29

That are Donnie's army, defending the freedoms their sacred Constitution guarantees them. They are utterly paranoid and deranged, pumped up by the snake oil salesmen on the Internet - yes, especially you Donnie - and are terrifying. America, what are you allowing to happen? You won't like it when you get it. If you're alive.

RedSquirrelGreySquirrel · 09/10/2020 23:10

I agree op, terrifying is the word. When law and order goes and the leadership doesn't defend it you basically don't have a country any more. It's just every man or woman for themselves. People who do not understand this basic truth should not be anywhere near power. I'm thinking of the British conflicts with the judiciary too, in media, and proposed law alterations.

longwayoff · 10/10/2020 06:45

The sole reason that I'm not an anti-monarchist is because the monarch is the embodiment of the nation and the military's first loyalty is to the monarch, not any passing grabby political leader. Who knows whether the US military would defend its citizens against the militias or defend its barking mad nutter of a President because he told them to? We're not as bad as USA. Yet.

notimagain · 10/10/2020 07:47

If you are a frequent reader of UK FCO travel advice Hmm you'll know they are quite keen on warning Brits to stay clear of politically related gatherings, polling stations, etc at election time in countries where elections tend attract a risk of violence or unrest.

There's stuff all travel to the States from the UK ATM but it will be interesting to see if the situation becomes such that the FCO publishes similar for the States in a few weeks..(would they dare?)

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