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Manager doesn't believe in equal pay for women ihbu?

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lyne123 · 04/10/2020 08:55

During casual conversation my manager told me he doesn't believe in equal pay for women due to being off work for sometimes after having babies. I was taken aback especially being back from maternity not long ago myself . I left it at that. But it's been playing in my mind since. Was he being unreasonable?

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MushMonster · 04/10/2020 10:35

Of course he is unreasonable, but what he thinks is not of much importance really. If you have a HR department, he will have rules to follow regarding pay and maternity leave. And then there is the law.
I think the real problem comes when a promotion is on the table. Then people like this become the real issueAngry

MrsGrindah · 04/10/2020 10:40

Why on earth are you puzzling over whether he’s being unreasonable ? That’s shocked me more than his comment actually. Unless you are the poster who started the thread yesterday about not being allowed to wear a bracelet at work!

SueEllenMishke · 04/10/2020 11:06

@PlanetSlattern

as people enter their 30s and have children, women tend to drop to part time or reduce their level of commitment to work.

But don't you think this is often because it's expected of women with children, @NoIDontWatchLoveIsland? If you have a partner, have they also chosen to work less? If not, is that because they're the higher earner?

There are layers and layers of societal discrimination that leads to the "choices" we make – from the academic choices girls make to the jobs we choose (and how much they pay) and the hours we work.

The point about discrimination is that it all comes back to choice. Of course, if we choose to work less and earn less that's fine, but if we are forced to earn less because no-one else is going to pick up the slack on the domestic front, it is not. Even less so if all women's choices are assumed by other people (usually men) and those who have made the choice not to have children are punished.

Men don't (usually) have to choose between having children, or a good salary. I'm going to hazard a guess your boss hasn't, OP.

I want to caveat this by saying it goes the other way too. I'm sure a lot would like to work less and spend more time with their families, but feel societal pressures stand in the way of that. It will never be "fair" unless flexible working is afforded to all, regardless of whether they have children or not.

100% this
DilysPrice · 04/10/2020 11:11

Your actual quote sounds like he was saying that he thinks that women should be paid less before they have children to make up for the fact that they’ll probably be receiving maternity pay while not working at some point in the future. Which is of course bollocks because salary comes from the employer whereas Mat pay comes from the treasury.

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