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Interferring mother

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 08:49

I'm not sure how to deal with my partners mother. She can be quite interferring, and doesn't handle confrontation well at all. So it's a catch 22 for me, as I can't handle the way she deals with things, but at the same time I've been warned by her husband not to confront her as she doesn't handle it well.

We were staying with her temporarily when I was pregnant and we had found out that I was going to be induced. As my partner could not speak with the Midwife face-to-face, she offered to chat with him over the phone at a pre-arranged time and answer any questions he may have re. my induction. My partner was working from home that day and had an informal meeting but agreed to speak with the Midwife anyway, and told me to come and get him when she called. When she called I was ready to walk into the room where he was, when his mother demanded that I wait until after his meeting. I was obviously still on the phone with the Midwife and kept walking toward the living room (as I didn't feel it was her place to tell me what to do given that my partner was fine with it and she was aware that he had agreed to it), when she ran over to me and swiped my hair to try to get me to listen to her. I thought this was very overreaching to be honest, but I didn't say anything to her about it as I didn't want to make it a 'thing'.

Ever since baby has arrived she has been very overreaching

E.G. Telling me 7 times in the space of 4 days to use a dummy during the day, which has meant I've had to tell her 7 times that me and my partner only want him having a dummy during the night

On separate occasions when my child is asleep she has told me to "Leave him be" "leave him alone", "don't touch him", and "don't go near him". 2 of these time I was nowhere near him but she was preemptively telling me not to bother him, and 2 of these times I was going towards him to fix his blanket to keep him warm/clean spit up. This really bothers me, as I'm not comfortable with another person telling me to stay away from my own baby.

One day me and my partner were going to the shop and decided to take the baby with us for a little spin, when his mother told us that we're not allowed to as it's risky with the pandemic. (I was going to run into the shop whilst my partner sat in the car with the baby, we hadn't got a chance to explain that part to her before she interrupted). I know she has a point about not bringing baby into the shop, however, surely it's not her place to tell us what to do with our own baby?

At one point my baby had nappy rash and I was using a lotion the Doctor had recommended. I told his mother how good the lotion was when she started insisting that it was the egg white and Sudocrem that she recommended that cleared his nappy rash. Later on I was changing baby's nappy and her husband mentioned that his nappy rash was gone so I told him about the lotion. I then caught my partners mother give him a look, and her husband then said to me "Are you still using Sudocrem and egg whites though? Make sure you put plenty on". I found this really bizarre, surely it's a good thing that I found a good lotion that made my baby better? Yet, I feel like she took offence to the fact that I found something better than her idea of egg white and Sudocrem to heal it.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking that her behaviour needs to be addressed? I would ask my partner, but he has a tendency to get angry and doesn't handle situations as diplomatically as I feel I could and might make it worse. We're no longer living with them, but they call round a lot and we go to their house, and I would like this to continue so that we can remain close, but I can't handle her interferring anymore and need to nip it in the bud.

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Sunnydaysstillhere · 01/10/2020 08:56

Too much time together is giving her a sense of entitlement over your lives.
A weekly visit when your dh is with you... She needs to learn some serious boundaries..
Take back control of your life. Your dc does not need to see her often to have a decent relationship..

FortunesFave · 01/10/2020 08:56

My MIL was like this when my DD was small. I learned to stop telling her anything about the baby. I used to tell her all sorts of things...for example, the baby had a stuffy nose or nappy rash...so when she interfered badly, I decided to stop telling her ANYTHING that was bothering me about the baby...or anything that could open up opinions or discussions.

I also began to assert myself verbally. So...she'd be holding my baby and I'd just come in from being at work...I'd obviously want to hold my baby....she wouldn't hand her over!

She'd just stand there holding my baby that I'd been away from all day.

I then started saying "Hand her over" in a cold tone...no please or being polite.

She got all offended and I'd say "Well what do you expect! Of course I want her she's mine after all!

You've got to be COLD and factual.

Don't get emotional.

FourPlasticRings · 01/10/2020 09:09

Egg whites? As in, raw egg whites? Why the dickens would anyone put those on a wound, particularly near the genitals? Lion egg stamp or not, no way would raw egg be finding itself anywhere near that area on my kid. Also, the reckoning is that coming across a potential allergen for the first time on the skin increases the risk of allergy Vs encountering it for the first time when eating. Any hope of moving out anytime soon?

Italiangreyhound · 01/10/2020 09:14

BigMC93 this sounds intolerable.

I'd nip it on the bud now.

Next time she does or says anything you are not comfortable with either tell her you don't like it and why or simply take baby and do something else.

Stop conversations on nappy rash with a simple 'I'm dealing with the nappy rash."

If she tries to tell you to leave baby alone I'd ignore her. If you want to explain say 'Don't tell me what to do with my baby."

To be honest your partner doesn't sound great. He is obviously either unaware of the tension or choosing to ignore it.

" I would ask my partner, but he has a tendency to get angry and doesn't handle situations as diplomatically as I feel I could and might make it worse. "

Does your partner get angry with you?

Focus on getting your relationship good with him, if you can, distance from MIL.

She sounds overbearing and I doubt whether a close relationship between her and your child will develop if she continues to be so, and why would you want that if she is so difficult?

Decide for yourself how you want things to go and then work towards making it happen.

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LouiseTrees · 01/10/2020 09:20

I would move out as soon as you possibly can. She doesn’t sound as severe as some others but still very annoying. Re the don’t go near them. All grandparents do that. Re the lotion , I use it was metanium that the doctor gave you and it will have been that that cleared it but she’s also semi right about sudocrem as a preventative measure at. Each nappy change ( ignore the egg white). When she challenges you just say “ yes but the blanket needs fixed”, “ yes but he’s sitting in the car as we want him to see more of the world” and for goodness sake get your partner to do the same. If she’s semi right then “ your right but” to start the sentence might diffuse part of the blow. When can you leave? Sounds like your husband is getting a better deal than you out of this though.

FizzyGreenWater · 01/10/2020 09:27

I've been warned by her husband not to confront her as she doesn't handle it well.

Oh reeeeeallly?!

I think it's probably time that you announce to all and sundry that you 'don't handle it well when someone else tries to lay down the law with what YOU do with YOUR FUCKING BABY!!

So it would be lots, lots better if MIL learned to keep her beak out with someone else's child :)

The big lesson to learn here is that the thing that will allow you to 'remain close' ISN'T being diplomatic. It ISN'T letting things go or being 'the nicce one'.

The only thing that will sort thia so that you remain close is to blow up. Or start blowing up and asserting yourself in smaller ways before you go for the big one. You need - need - to put her in her place. It's the only way. Ok, she will sulk. There will be tears and an argument. But - she'll learn that she has to respect you. That it's your baby, and if she wants to be close to you, she can't play mummy and step on your toes.

To her, she sees herself as 'the mummy figure'. You are a youngster, on a par with her own son - her own child. Some women aren't mature enough to make this adjustment - to put themselves at the less pivotal 'granny' level - and try to continue as the 'mum' figure. You need to push her into that position - she won't do it on her own.

If it ends in tears and screaming and not seeing them for weeks - it's worth it.

Nanny0gg · 01/10/2020 09:49

Now you've moved out, why are you seeing so much of them?

FelicityPike · 01/10/2020 09:57

@FourPlasticRings

Egg whites? As in, raw egg whites? Why the dickens would anyone put those on a wound, particularly near the genitals? Lion egg stamp or not, no way would raw egg be finding itself anywhere near that area on my kid. Also, the reckoning is that coming across a potential allergen for the first time on the skin increases the risk of allergy Vs encountering it for the first time when eating. Any hope of moving out anytime soon?
Whisked you’re egg whites is actually fantastic at clearing nappy rash. It’s been used for generations. BUT I would definitely used the prescribed cream too.
Auto · 01/10/2020 10:09

Stand up to her. If she interferes, tell her you will make your own decisions about your own baby. She will have to learn to relate to you politely or not at all.

Italiangreyhound · 01/10/2020 10:14

FizzyGreenWater excellent post.

BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:16

Thank you all so much for the advice, it's very helpful and appreciated.

Regarding the questions about why we see them so much, I know it might sound silly but I don't have any family really as I grew up in foster care, so I want my child to be as close to their grandparents as possible because they won't have family from my side to love him.

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Lollypop4 · 01/10/2020 10:22

All due respect but, get a back bone.
All the examples you've given are unacceptable from MIL.

Tell her straight " No/yes we wont/will be doing that"
" Our child, our rules"

Your partner needs to get a grip too, spend less time with your inlaws, you dont have to go for every visit.

Boredbumhead · 01/10/2020 10:26

Any chance she feels overly responsible for the wellbeing of your baby somehow?

BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:32

@Boredbumhead

To be honest, she's always been very interfering in general but it's never bothered me until I had a baby. She always wanted to know everything about our lives and be involved, and I always thought it was sweet because I've never had much of a mother figure, but I no longer find it sweet 😂

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:33

@Lollypop4 I agree with the backbone thing, and thank you for your advice.

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:34

@FizzyGreenWater thank you so much, you've given me a lot to think about!

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:35

@Sunnydaysstillhere thank you!

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:36

@FortunesFave thank you so much

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BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:40

@LouiseTrees thank you for this. Yes, my partner does get angry with me. He gets very emotional and tends to call me names when he's angry which is obviously hurtful, but he's working on being better. But this is the reason it's best for him not to say anything because the way he reacts can cause more tension than is necessary.

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Shinyletsbebadguys · 01/10/2020 10:42

I've said this before on MN my story is a cautionary tale. I honestly say this kindly but like the pp get the back bone ready. I didn't at very first and my exdh (note the ex) didn't want to stand up to his dm. I absolutely promise you it was like 80% of what led to the divorce. I lost all respect for him and I couldn't bear how exmil behaved.

I wish now I had absolutely come down hard right at the beginning and honestly perhaps all the stuff that led to resentment wouldn't have happened.

You may get lots of people say things like " shes only trying to hhheeeeeeeeellllp " or winging that mil get a hard deal. Honestly have g gone through this crap....shut it down now , don't wait , don't fanny about. Set calm clear boundaries with your DP and mil. Follow through if they break them.

I promise boundaries now saves huge heartache later.

BigMC93 · 01/10/2020 10:55

@Shinyletsbebadguys

Thank you so much for your advice, very sorry to hear about your divorce! ❤

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LouiseTrees · 01/10/2020 10:58

[quote BigMC93]@LouiseTrees thank you for this. Yes, my partner does get angry with me. He gets very emotional and tends to call me names when he's angry which is obviously hurtful, but he's working on being better. But this is the reason it's best for him not to say anything because the way he reacts can cause more tension than is necessary.[/quote]
What about her partner? I’m also now worried for you than I was before. Sounds like you also have a controlling DH. Could he do anger management classes? It sounds like he gets it from his mum.

Nanny0gg · 01/10/2020 11:12

@BigMC93

Thank you all so much for the advice, it's very helpful and appreciated.

Regarding the questions about why we see them so much, I know it might sound silly but I don't have any family really as I grew up in foster care, so I want my child to be as close to their grandparents as possible because they won't have family from my side to love him.

Once a week/fortnight is ample for closeness. Really it is
Onadifferentuniverse · 01/10/2020 11:19

Nip in in the bud op. Next time she says something reply with one of the following:

‘ that’s nice you had your favourite way of dealing with things when you had your own children, I’m enjoying learning to do it my way with mine’

Or I guess you could be a bit blunter when she try’s to tell you that you can’t do something ‘Sorry i think we have our wires crossed, I’m a fully grown adult and I wasn’t asking for permission’

Or even more blunter ‘when you behave like this towards me, it makes me want to avoid you, can you please work on it’.

Heffalooomia · 01/10/2020 11:25

Your partner and his mother sound like a pair of toddlers, they lack the impulse control required to behave like adults (ie to behave calmly when other people don't agree with their viewpoint) and they are expecting you to compensate for this..... to be the grown up
but at the same time they are treating you like a subordinate?!
It's pretty fucked up isn't it ☹️