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Witchcraftandhokum · 28/09/2020 19:12

I'm middle management in a school. I don't get a lunch break as it's an expected part of my job that we do lunch time duty (now doubled as we're doing staggered lunches due to Covid. As I'm pastoral staff my yearly salary is pro-rata'd to term time only. I get paid term time plus 2 weeks, the extra 2 weeks is to cover every lunch time I work plus 7 parents evening a year so it doesn't even work out to minimum wage let alone match my salary. Up until now we have been able to get a free meal as I work what would be my lunch break. This is usually a sandwich, bottle of water and a piece of fruit, eaten standing up as I'm also supervising students. Rarely I'll pick up something extra like a doughnut or biscuit if I feel I need a sugar rush but as I say rarely.

Due to the extra staff needed because of the staggered lunches teachers are being asked to volunteer and are given a free luch as 'compensation'.

Today I have been told I need to register my thumb print to get my lunch. I don't know if we are limited to a certain amount. The thing is the head teacher tends to make snippy remarks about what I'm (and the other women in my role eat) as well as things like the way we dress, make up etc. and I'm just not comfortable with him being able to track what we eat. I also feel that if he wants to argue with me about a biscuit when I didn't volunteer for this he can fuck right off.

I absolutely don't want to give him more ammunition and I'm prepared (although not happy) to just not register my thumb print and bring my own lunch in. We also have one of the strictest dress codes of any school I've worked in, I can't dye my hair the colour I want it, or have my upper ear piercing replaced. He also had a go at me for wearing trainers during lockdown, even though I explained all of my work shoes needed re-heeling and there were no cobblers open. I just feel that this is another part of me that has to become public property and don't want to do it. How do I explain this without making a scene?

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user1497787065 · 28/09/2020 19:53

My DH never has the opportunity to take a lunch break and neither does he have a free lunch provided.

I would consider that good fortune to have lunch provided free of charge and presumably not declared as a benefit for tax.

MitziK · 28/09/2020 19:55

@Witchcraftandhokum

MitziK Thanks for your reply. You're right. I'm just a bit sick of feeling like public property!
Ack, they're paying your rent and food bills - they're entitled to say you do it whilst wearing clothes they want you to wear/with vaguely possible hair colours and no visible tattoos/additional piercings. even though it makes precisely fuck all difference other than in aesthetics.

Glares in direction of wardrobe cluttered up with naice suits, smashing blouses, sensible shoes and other such shite

TheFallenMadonna · 28/09/2020 19:57

Are you a teacher?

GalesThisMorning · 28/09/2020 19:59

Working for money with which you pay for your own food and shelter is not the same as your boss paying for your rent and food bills.

OverTheRainbow88 · 28/09/2020 19:59

@user1497787065

You can’t compare the situations, so wouldn’t waste your time trying

Witchcraftandhokum · 28/09/2020 19:59

TheFallenMadonna No, head of year.

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OverTheRainbow88 · 28/09/2020 20:02

The thing is the head teacher tends to make snippy remarks about what I'm (and the other women in my role eat) as well as things like the way we dress, make up etc.

I would also keep a log of all these inappropriate comment, dates, time and place and what was said

Pinktruffle · 28/09/2020 20:03

@Witchcraftandhokum I have a similar situation at my school, also pastoral non-teaching and expected to do duty at lunch, we get a 'free' lunch as compensation but can't collect it till after lunch time and on more than one occasion the kitchen have thrown everything in the bin by the time I get there!

I gave up and started taking my own. All students and staff who pay for their lunch have to use a thumb print, those of us who get one as part of our duty usually just give our names and its ticked off the computer that we took one.

I did actually raise our lunch situation with Unison and their response was that if that what other people in the same role are doing then it was perfectly fine. So, useless. I'm with NEU now, I haven't raised it with them yet as I'm on maternity leave. As a team we really kicked up a huge fuss about lack of actual lunch time, one of the deputy heads has finally taken notice and colleagues tell me that he has ringfenced half an hour for us and given us a meeting room that is for our use only for us to have our lunch in there. I'm not sure if this is actually happening in practise but will find out when I got back next year.

CoRhona · 28/09/2020 20:04

I also do duty and get a free meal for it, but at no point has anyone ever mentioned what food I chose. I cannot believe your HT doesn't have a million and one other things to think about Confused Weird, some people, eh?

TheFallenMadonna · 28/09/2020 20:20

Sorry - heads of year are often teachers, and it makes a difference re pay and conditions. If you work more than 6 hours with no break, you need to contact your union. I think I would ask your line manager, or the Head, why the change in procedure. It may be a finance thing and nothing to do with checking up on you. Dress code is a completely separate matter and actually sounds pretty standard.

MitziK · 28/09/2020 20:21

@GalesThisMorning

Working for money with which you pay for your own food and shelter is not the same as your boss paying for your rent and food bills.
Boils down to the same thing in the end. If I keep them happy by following the standards in the staff handbook, I can pay my bills. If I don't keep them happy, they start disciplinary action, I potentially end up jobless or with a less than stellar reference ('has the employee ever been subject to disciplinary or competency based procedures?') for applying anywhere else.

I kicked back when a previous job had specific health and safety requirements - my 'professional dress code' was changed purely so I could wear appropriate PPE for the tasks involved without being hauled into the office repeatedly for not wearing a 'nice suit and shoes capable of holding polish'. But when it's just a standard school job and you aren't lifting heavy equipment, using tools or working with electrical items, there isn't a PPE requirement and you get on with it.

[shrug]

I don't like wearing suits.

I do like having a home and food.

If I wear suits and shit like that I get to have a home and food.

MitziK · 28/09/2020 20:23

@CoRhona

I also do duty and get a free meal for it, but at no point has anyone ever mentioned what food I chose. I cannot believe your HT doesn't have a million and one other things to think about Confused Weird, some people, eh?
It's unlikely that the Head will even know how to operate ParentPay. Most financial good practice indicates that they only have access to what they actually need to, enabling Finance to maintain accurate and uncompromised records. Can't see them asking somebody on reception to bring up the food choices of all staff that week, either.
IamChipmunk · 28/09/2020 20:23

Im a head of year but also a teacher so get paid for the year. We all (HoYs) do 2 lunch duties (and get a free lunch everyday or the money) and 2 break duties. Its directed time so no choice, we could volunteer to do more. We have a finger print system but I can't say anyone has ever been interested in what I eat however it is capped at a certain amount so we would have to add more of our own money if eating a lot!! ..
I never have a lunch break, just eat at my desk.
We also have a strict dress code and would be pulled up for wearing trainers or having very coloured hair because we are parent facing.
I would speak to your union rep if head is being inappropriate though.

noblegiraffe · 28/09/2020 20:30

If you’ve got to the point where you think the head will look up and comment on your food choices and this is why he is requiring thumb print payment, you need to look for another job.

Other schools will also have a dress code, but hopefully the head won’t be some sort of lunch-scrutinising micromanager.

PoodleMoth · 28/09/2020 20:36

It sounds like they will just be keeping track of the meals and who is claiming a free lunch each day rather than what you are actually eating. The thumb print will just be used to register the amount it costs for a lunch or at least that's how it used to work where I worked

Witchcraftandhokum · 03/10/2020 19:06

They haven't made us register our thumbprint yet so I'm still having lunches. Yesterday as I took a biscuit the head appeared over my shoulder and said "I hope that didn't take you over your £2.20 limit" I told him I'd just had a salad and now the biscuit, at which point he said "oh, are you're hoping the salad makes up for the biscuit"

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