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Anyone help me understand economics?

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RigaBalsam · 26/09/2020 14:23

Aibu to ask about my understanding of money and economics and think a lot of people don't understand it?

Speaking to some people last week they think money works like a household budget and some even thought the gold standard was a thing and hadn't heard of fiat currency.

With all the news of the economy being damaged. I was hoping someone could explain if I am on the right track or not?

Looking at these principles

Fiat currency

1	Can pay for goods, services, and financial assets without a need to collect money in the form of taxes or debt issuance in advance of such purchases;
2	Cannot be forced to default on debt denominated in its own currency;
3	Is only limited in its money creation and purchases by <a class="break-all" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">inflation</a>, which accelerates once the real resources (labour, capital and natural resources) of the economy are utilized at <a class="break-all" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAIBER" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">full employment</a>;
4	Can control <a class="break-all" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand-pull_inflation" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">demand-pull inflation</a>[13] by taxation which remove excess money from circulation (although the political will to do so may not always exist);

So does this essentially mean?
The government can print money and they do? There is no such thing as ' tax payers money' as such and this is used as an emotive term? Tax on the other hand is used to control inflation. But the tax is very much a political view based on who should be taxed? ( income, goods, capital gains, the big companies, rich, land assetts)

So as long as we can control inflation (which zimbabwe didn't) we are a long way off this being an issue.

Does this mean the debt is essentially pointless too? Also used as emotion and justification for austerity. Do we need to pay it back? Looking at main stream money economics?

Also in 2008 the QE was given to the banks whereas this time its to the people so more oil running through the machine.

I am finding it all very complicated.

Can anyone help?

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chomalungma · 26/09/2020 18:06

I think that the one thing holding up the world economy is trust at the moment.

Pepperwort · 30/09/2020 21:19

Trust, and the carefully-maintained ignorance of the poorest groups: to ensure that they don't realise just how much they are being exploited and how many lies they are told.

MissConductUS · 30/09/2020 21:25

I recommend the podcast Freakonomics. Each one covers a single topic and are very accessible.

Etinox · 30/09/2020 21:30

Economics is just a lot of ideas and theories, some work some of the time. None all of the time.

The dismal science.

RigaBalsam · 01/10/2020 18:52

I recommend the podcast Freakonomics. Each one covers a single topic and are very accessible.

Thanks my oh listens to them. So will have a listen too.

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