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What do you think of ppl with multiple degrees/qualifications etc?

445 replies

lapitup · 25/09/2020 18:15

What do you think of a person when you hear they have a more than average amount of degrees/postgrads/masters etc and qualifications?

Do you think...good for them,they must be smart,have ambition, drive etc!

Or.

Do you think...god could they not make their mind up and/or stick to something??

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nicebreeze · 25/09/2020 19:43

@MissPoldark

Lots of time on their hands. Completing a masters is more about time and money than it is about intelligence.
Ha! I got my masters with neither time, nor money. Now completing a Phd and both still nowhere to be seen.
mintyfreshh · 25/09/2020 19:48

I have three. All related in some way, though not exactly the same. English degree. PGCE in English and Media. The third is a distance MA I'm partway through, Autism Studies. Once that's complete I will be qualified to be a SEN consultant working with schools to improve provision for autistic children, and children with sensory processing disorder.

BA and PGCE have a 4 year gap between. Then until the Masters there was a 10 year gap.

I'm clever and pretty good at writing essays. I couldn't do the job I want to do without the MA. I'm a working class girl done good and I get a small kick out of seeing letters after my name.

TruculentandFarty · 25/09/2020 19:48

Neither of those things. It really isn't any of my business or particularly interesting to me. If I was supporting the person while they did it I'd probably have an opinion, but otherwise no.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 25/09/2020 19:51

I don't think anything of them. I barely even have GCSEs let alone a degree so it's not something that tends to be on my radar.

Wanttolearnmore · 25/09/2020 19:51

I think it depends on what they are doing with it. I don't know any perpetual students who do degree after degree, and haven't ever worked, but would probably take a dim view if I met someone like that.
I have an undergrad degree, and then a masters I did a few years later relevant to my field of work, and professional qualifications for my job. Parents/student loan funded undergrad, and self funded and worked through the rest of it.
From the responses on here there aren't many examples of perpetual students , most did the qualifications to get their jobs so I don't know why you'd be negatively judgemental of people with many degrees etc.

Camomila · 25/09/2020 19:56

I have a few, currently finishing off second Masters...I had a loan for my undergrad, my MA was funded, and my MSc I saved up for half/used an inheritance for the rest of the fees.

I just really like studying Blush I am applying to jobs where most people have postgraduate qualifications though so they are not just 'for fun'.

I wander if it's an age thing too, I'm 32 and of friends I know with degrees almost everyone did something after as well whether MSc/teacher training/prof quals or PhDs.

rowsehonig · 25/09/2020 19:58

My dh is doing an mba. Like a previous poster said, it's more about time and money. I wish I could do an mba but dh the breadwinner and was a better investment for the whole family for him to do it. I will do one but when I can afford to.
Everyone I've met with multiple degrees are people who appear to be avoiding the work place Grin

Camomila · 25/09/2020 19:58

I can't spell though Blush I always get wander/wonder mixed up.

zurich09 · 25/09/2020 20:06

why do you ask? Almost everyone around me has at least 3 - I have 4 but then I am an academic so thats literally how many you need to get the job. However, it doesnt make us any different from any other professions that have long degrees/professional qualifications.

To be fair - if I hear that someone is an academic - I just think poor....because thats probably the worst paid profession considering that most people have to do at least seven to eight years of higher education.

other than that it really makes no difference

HateIsNotGood · 25/09/2020 20:06

Bellevue that's really good to hear - now that DS is more independent it is a possibility that I could commit to FT/PT Study again, but would need some financial assistance with Fees.

I know I have the passion and ability but would be 59 in Sept/Oct 2021 - is their a resolve within Universities to fairly look upon Applications from a 59 year old who isn't self nor employer funded?

I completely understand if in reality that's just pie in the sky, and I'd rather hear that truth than hear encouraging words saying go for it when in reality I would be wasting my time.

Smallsteps88 · 25/09/2020 20:07

What’s an average amount? I’m 31 and have 5 degree level qualifications so far, currently studying for my 6th and am waiting a scholarship approval for my 7th. That might seem excessive but I don’t know. One of my friends is only a year older and she’s already studying for her 9th degree level qualification.

Why??? Confused

Facelikearustytractor · 25/09/2020 20:08

Would love to have more than one degree as I love studying, however money didn't allow, so I would say to begin with that they are probably rich.

I know a few eternal students and it does seem they just don't like working. I don't blame them as studying is far more interesting.

emilyfrost · 25/09/2020 20:09

I think they lack experience in the real world and will struggle to maintain a career when they finally (try to) start one.

Graphista · 25/09/2020 20:09

Context is everything here!

For starters anyone who is a professional (in the traditional sense) needs to have at least 2 in most cases these days! Their undergrad and postgrad qualifications.

“A job for life” is no longer realistic for most for a variety of reasons so they may well have retrained in order to meet the demands of changing economy, personal circumstances etc

Some like learning for learnings sake and will have gained additional qualifications while working or caring for others, sometimes as a way to keep knowledge current.

A few are overgrown teens who are delaying entering the “real world” but then doesn’t that kind of apply to pretty much any tutor/lecturer/professor as they rarely leave academia?

and I really, really hate referencing. haha yes that is a pita!

I’m currently not working due to ill health and I’d LOVE to do some kind of postgrad as it’s driving me nuts not using my brain properly, but can’t get the funding plus some other obstacles.

I have 2 undergrad, one in nursing and one in English. Both done as a “mature” student mainly as I couldn’t afford to go to uni at 18, my parents had too much income for me to qualify for a grant, but dads an alcoholic so it was pissed away.

Partied more than I should have for the first one but still got a 2:2, 2nd I was more motivated (single mum by this point) and got a 2:1 narrowly missed out on a 1st which was frustrating.

Far more interested in English than the nursing which I did as a “pragmatic” decision but I hated working in the nhs in the end. Not the patients, the endless bureaucracy and nonsensical processes.

Pretty much most people I currently know in real life don’t even know! This can be “interesting” when hcps try and explain basic medical terms etc to me.

My friends and family greatly vary along the spectrum of “left school with no qualifications to speak of” to “crazy number of degrees+” roughly evenly in terms of numbers.

Equally I’ve met/known people with zero qualifications not even a cse or equivalent who are/were incredibly intelligent and people with phds who outside that specific subject were thick as 2 short planks! To the point I’ve wondered how the fuck they even got the qualification!

One job I had where my degree was the MINIMUM requirement for what seemed to be little more than a basic admin role puzzled me until I was actually working there, then it became apparent the reasons were two fold, one the degree knowledge was actually useful in a way that wasn’t apparent from the job description, the other was that to be totally honest anyone inhabiting the role who didn’t at least have an undergrad degree would possibly have felt quite overwhelmed by working with (and sometimes having to correct) people with multiple phds!

I definitely think there’s a generational element too. Mainly to do with employability.

When my grandparents left school they could pretty much walk into fairly well paid if not exactly cerebrally challenging jobs with zero qualifications or experience, my parents similarly didn’t need qualifications but were expected to have some kind of experience from part time work, my generation employers for even nmw (didn’t exist then of course) jobs expected at least 5 GCSEs at grade c or above including Maths and English. My daughter has just studying again after a few years out of education (long story) and working in a low paid but above nmw job and her generation seem to think you need at least an undergrad to have a hope of a decent job. Her plan is to eventually train as a teacher so she’ll need a pgce at least and in order to stand a hope at promotions/maintaining a decent career according to my friends/family who are teachers she’ll need to be seriously considering doing a masters or 2 and possibly phd.

Unless/until it becomes an employees market again (highly unlikely with automation etc) this trend will likely continue so probably my grandchildren will need to be able to qualify to phd level to have a hope at a decent job!

MagpieSong · 25/09/2020 20:11

Usually that they’re interested in those subjects and like to learn. That’s all really. I know a few people with more than one degree, often because of a job market being difficult and so needing a change, or just that they wanted to learn something new. I think it’s quite normal, especially when lots of people qualify at a time when certain jobs are tough to get into or perhaps life situation changes.

MushMonster · 25/09/2020 20:12

Depending on which degrees. If they have nothing to do, I will think they are wealthy/ do not need to work/ studying just for curiosity. And good for them if they can!
If the degrees are related, and there is some time between them, with work in between, I would think they are furthering their work value, motivated, driven, successful.

malificent7 · 25/09/2020 20:12

I am on my second unrelated degree. I dont think I am flakey. Did an arts subject then taughtbit. Hated it, changed to science degree with better prospects.

Graphista · 25/09/2020 20:14

Ffs my own English in that post is shocking! Grin

Apologies I'm knackered and not doing great today health wise

Dd has just started studying again is of course what I meant to say, I'm not correcting all of it as I hope it still makes sense!

LoftyLucy · 25/09/2020 20:15

Most people I know at work need their degrees and professional certifications (including me) so I'd just not really think much... But if I met them socially, I'd agree with the others saying context is important.

I know a woman who's doing her second degree in a language because her children have flown the nest and she's bored, I think good in her for going back to learn something you are genuinely interested in..

While the current PhD student I know (sciences) is a bit of a zombie ghost, perma stressed and admits he's just gritting his teeth to get through the final year, it's pretty awful.

So, both have multiple degrees that I know in a personal capacity.. one elicits admiration, the other my sympathy!!

I've never actually met an eternal student bar one, he'd studied humanities subjects but failed a year then resat. Did another degree after, still undergrad. Last I heard he was on a master's... All funded by parents, at 32 and never worked.. but he was a workshy oaf, it's not like he had student jobs around his actual studies.. so that was just him as a person...

WoodenFox · 25/09/2020 20:26

I'm jealous. I have one degree but wished I had to time and money to do another. Never really applied the one I have. Did badly at 'A' levels and did the first degree I could get onto. Even if I had the money, I'm not entirely sure what I'd study. Still can't decide what I want to be when I grow up. I'm 44. 🤷‍♀️

SabrinaThwaite · 25/09/2020 20:26

The only eternal student I’ve met was a Greek guy avoiding National Service. He was hoping that he could just spin his PhD out long enough.

ravenia · 25/09/2020 20:29

I have 3 - an undergrad and masters (vaguely related) and an MBA... no, I wouldn't call myself flaky. I did both masters on a part-time basis while working full-time (at one point I had a full-time job, a part-time job, and part-time masters going at the same time). I was very lucky that the masters were employer-funded.

Would love to do a Ph.D. just as a challenge to myself - I have fairly severe mental health issues and having studies to focus on has proved to be an effective way to cope.

JenniferSantoro · 25/09/2020 20:51

I would think they were trying to avoid having a job and probably have no common sense.

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/09/2020 20:52

@ToffeePennie

What’s an average amount? I’m 31 and have 5 degree level qualifications so far, currently studying for my 6th and am waiting a scholarship approval for my 7th. That might seem excessive but I don’t know. One of my friends is only a year older and she’s already studying for her 9th degree level qualification.
Do you work? If you do, hats off. Wow. One degree was enough for me.

I used to teach English to people with a lot of qualifications. One guy had a double doctorate. I thought that was impressive.

Phrowzunn · 25/09/2020 20:53

Honestly - my friends who have multiple degrees are generally a bit ‘shy’ of working in the real world and are ‘professional students’. Those with one vocational degree I would consider to be more intelligent, hard-working and successful. That’s obviously just my experience but based on that I look at people with multiple degrees and think that they didn’t really want to get a proper job or maybe just like collecting them.

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