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People looking older in the past...

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QueenArseClangers · 23/09/2020 12:48

Inspired by another thread about wearing clothes deemed ‘too young’ past a certain age.
I really think so. My grandmother (born in 1901) was dressed in a gaberdine mac and twin set once she was in her fifties and adopted using a walking stick on her 60th birthday as she declared herself an old lady!

Anyway, this photos in this article are fascinating.
www.boredpanda.com/past-young-people-look-older/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

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DisgruntledGuineaPig · 23/09/2020 17:16

This thread has inspired me- I've just looked at a photo of my mum in her mid 40s, and she looks a decade older than I do now, I'm early 40s, so there's only a couple of years in it.

But where we both started going grey in our early 20s, I've always dyed mine, she didnt and it aged her terribly. She also got a mum cut at 30, and has been nagging me to cut my shoulder length hair as the recieved wisdom as far as she's concerned is that hair should be short or pinned up from late 20s as you are now a grown up.

When she got to her late 40s, she got a new hairdresser, who convinced her to dye the dark brown at the back blonde to blend in with the grey/white, i have another photo of her in early 50s and she looks 10 years younger than the mid-40s one.

This has helped me make a decision, I was debating growing out the grey as the front of my hair is basically white now. Just decided im going to be one of those ladies in her 70s convinced she's still too young to be grey...

DisgruntledGuineaPig · 23/09/2020 17:19

I do think mens hair cuts make a massive difference- quite a lot of those "old" photos, if you cover the hair, the face is clearly young. Men don't let thin hair grow anymore, they shave it all, or get hair implants/wigs! I cant remember the last time I saw a man in his 40s with the bald top and longish sides look, but that was common when I was young, and men are still clearly going bald - just shaving it all!

tanqueray10 · 23/09/2020 17:20

I always think this about Princess Diana. She was 36 when she died and although she was young facially and obviously beautiful, the hairstyle and clothes made her seem much older. x

Bluntness100 · 23/09/2020 17:27

Anyone remember the old comb overs that blokes used to favour to cover their bald patches. Now they shave it all off, but then they desperately tried to cover it with long strands of hair, hair sprayed into place, it was an awful look.

I recall a lecturer at college. He was walking down the drive one day in the wind, and his comb over had lifted snd it was so stiff it was just literally vertical on top of his head,

letsgomaths · 23/09/2020 17:30

I remember noticing this in the Crystal Maze episodes in the 90s. Most of the contestants would be in their twenties, but would look like today's 30-somethings; and many of those who were in their thirties looked almost middle-aged. The Youtube comments often say "lol the 90's hairstyles".

I have another youthful misconception in that three of my grandparents were over 70 when I was born, and I assumed that all grandparents were "old" and white-haired.

froggy1811 · 23/09/2020 17:31

@tanqueray10

I always think this about Princess Diana. She was 36 when she died and although she was young facially and obviously beautiful, the hairstyle and clothes made her seem much older. x
I agree 100% with this.

Recently I watched the Diana documentaries on Netflix, and while she was always beautiful, there's no way I can get to grips with the fact that she was younger than me and my siblings! Grin

Definitely it her case it was largely to do with hairstyle/clothes etc. Can you imagine how fabulous she would look in this day and age?! (Not that she didn't look great - but now she'd have had mermaid hair, and gorgeous dresses) as opposed to a mum cut and skirt suits!

RuffleCrow · 23/09/2020 17:42

I think it's selective. My mum's mum was a snappy dresser, went grey late, always looked 20 years younger than she was. My dad's mum fitted all the lovely little old lady in curlers stereotypes. Both grandads had roughly the same tweedy granddaddy look.

My parents have both always looked younger than a they are. I'm a wrinkly mess at 39.

TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain · 23/09/2020 17:43

According to my mum, the concept of a "teenager" or a "young adult" didn't exist until some time in the '60s. Perhaps earlier if you were upper-class or from certain "progressive" backgrounds. There were hairstyles and clothing suitable for children and hair and clothing styles for adults. When you reached a certain age, you switched from one to the other. Her generation was the first in the UK to have dedicated teenage styles that were different.

High fashion was usually far too expensive for younger women until the '60s. The target market for the likes of Dior in the '50s was middle-aged wealthy women, so when styles trickled down, they were somewhat ageing. Sixties fashions were also more democratic because even if you couldn't afford the latest ready-to-wear styles, a Mary Quant-style miniskirt was easy to run up on your sewing machine with a metre or so of fabric.

VinylDetective · 23/09/2020 17:58

This is my parents in 1949. She was 31, he was 33. I don’t think they particularly look older than people of the same age now. Which is surprising as he’d just served In the RAF and she nursed throughout the war.

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QueenArseClangers · 23/09/2020 18:22

The first pic is of my gorgeous mum when I was at playgroup so about 47? She’s always looked great and now, in her late 80s, has lovely skin.
She wears skinny jeans, makeup, bright colours and ALWAYS has big earrings in.

She often wears odd earrings as it makes the kids laugh and has on a unicorn sock on one foot and a mermaid one on the other today!
Worked in a mill from 14, widowed mother at 17 Shock.

My grandparents, the epitome of seaside chic, are in their early 50s in the other photo!

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mumwon · 23/09/2020 18:51

I think that glasses (big & none of that ultra thin ones or contacts & fashionably light style just pink or brown or those with wings!) & teeth or the lack of them - teeth were really bad my dm had hers all out before she was 40, many people did! & those perms ...

Spacie · 23/09/2020 18:54

They smoked far, far more than we do, which doesn't help.

mumwon · 23/09/2020 19:09

& housework was much tougher & labour intensive (& yep I know many women work outside from home now) dm had to either boil washing or hand wash, use a carpet sweeper or broom, cook using one of those coalfired ovens & clean it, scrub door steps, clean & lay coal fires, go round all the different shops to gather shopping etc etc etc ironing was done by putting one of the two irons into a space on the oven top. She made puff pastry from scratch had a larder but no fridge (which meant daily shopping) made our clothes & knitted like mad.

Straven123 · 23/09/2020 19:09

She was 36 when she died and although she was young facially and obviously beautiful, the hairstyle and clothes made her seem much older
I'm pretty sure she was a fashion icon - just because the clothes loook old fashioned to someone much younger and long cinderella locks Hmm are fashionable now, they weren't then.
I don't like the cinderella locks much, I feel it must be hard to be taken seriously at work if your hair is sexy, tumbling tresses. But I'm in my 60s,

Straven123 · 23/09/2020 19:27

Fashion didn't change with the season like it does now, or did now.
Are today's 40 year olds going to be wearing black lycra in their 80s?
People seem to stick to what they are wearing as fashionable or smart in midlife.
In the past people had less money to spend on clothes and clothes were relatively more expensive. My Mum in the 60s probably had 3 wearable skirts, 6 blouses and 3 cardigans, 2 coats and that would be it.

TomPinch · 23/09/2020 19:32

From the Waste Land (written just after WW1)

When Lil’s husband got demobbed, I said—
I didn’t mince my words, I said to her myself,
HURRY UP PLEASE ITS TIME
Now Albert’s coming back, make yourself a bit smart.
He’ll want to know what you done with that money he gave you
To get yourself some teeth. He did, I was there.
You have them all out, Lil, and get a nice set,
He said, I swear, I can’t bear to look at you.
And no more can’t I, I said, and think of poor Albert,
He’s been in the army four years, he wants a good time,
And if you don’t give it him, there’s others will, I said.
Oh is there, she said. Something o’ that, I said.
Then I’ll know who to thank, she said, and give me a straight look.
HURRY UP PLEASE ITS TIME
If you don’t like it you can get on with it, I said.
Others can pick and choose if you can’t.
But if Albert makes off, it won’t be for lack of telling.
You ought to be ashamed, I said, to look so antique.
(And her only thirty-one.)
I can’t help it, she said, pulling a long face,
It’s them pills I took, to bring it off, she said.
(She’s had five already, and nearly died of young George.)
The chemist said it would be all right, but I’ve never been the same.
You are a proper fool, I said.
Well, if Albert won’t leave you alone, there it is, I said,
What you get married for if you don’t want children?

keeprocking · 23/09/2020 19:37

A few months ago someone brought up on line a school photo, I couldn't believe how old we Sixth formers all looked, even one of the teachers who I had a fling with a couple of years later, he would have been around 28, looked so old! It may be that the picture was in black and white, back in the 60s.

QueenArseClangers · 23/09/2020 19:40

That’s amazing @TomPinch.

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QueenArseClangers · 23/09/2020 19:42

Also, the poster who mentioned hysterectomies being more common (and no hrt) therefore accelerating aging and osteoporosis etc: really interesting.

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QueenArseClangers · 23/09/2020 19:45

@VinylDetective your parents were very attractive. Your DM reminds me of Maggie Gyllenhall.
They don’t look ‘old’ for their age.
Your mum’s skin looks glowing.

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Bluntness100 · 23/09/2020 19:50

I don't like the cinderella locks much, I feel it must be hard to be taken seriously at work if your hair is sexy, tumbling tresses. But I'm in my 60s

This is nothing to do with your age and everything to do with your atttitude, I’ve long “tumbling tresses” although I’m now fifty one, but pretty much have had for a very long time. I’ve always been taken seriously at work, my daughter is a trainee commercial lawyer and with the same long curly hair, I can assure you she’s taken very seriously,

And our hair is not “sexy” what a ludicrous comment. Very odd to say you don’t like long hair then in the next breath say call it sexy.

As women we can wear our hair as we wish and it doesn’t impact on our ability to do our jobs or how we are perceived,

The days have long gone, if they ever existed, where a woman needed to don a power suit and cut her hair short to be taken seriously, I simply can’t believe anyone still has this attitude any more. Or call it Cinderella hair say they don’t like it and call it sexy,

Just cringe.

ProudAuntie76 · 23/09/2020 19:57

@Straven123

She was 36 when she died and although she was young facially and obviously beautiful, the hairstyle and clothes made her seem much older I'm pretty sure she was a fashion icon - just because the clothes loook old fashioned to someone much younger and long cinderella locks Hmm are fashionable now, they weren't then. I don't like the cinderella locks much, I feel it must be hard to be taken seriously at work if your hair is sexy, tumbling tresses. But I'm in my 60s,
The hair comment says more about your own attitude than anything. How sad that you think hair length is a justifiable reason to not be taken seriously at work. Talk about internalised misogyny! In the real world with decent human beings, people know that you can have long hair or “sexy” hair (whatever that means!) and be intelligent, professional, trustworthy...an all round good employee.

I’m glad my daughters won’t be colleagues of yours!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 23/09/2020 20:08

I agree. Well agreeing is neither here nor there. The facts speak for themselves through the pictures.
I remember a teacher in primary school looked about 99 years old. The poor women was probably only about 40.
I wonder though if people will say the same about us in say 80-100 years time

Bluntness100 · 23/09/2020 20:10

Talk about internalised misogyny

Yes, god forbid we get to wear our hair as we please.

And wtf even is sexy hair. And who exactly wouldn’t be taking us seriously if we wear it long. Cover your femininity women. Cut that hair. And make sure irs nothing too stylish. It’s the only way.

Oh and whilst you’re at it, no bare legs, no heels, no arms on display, no fitted clothes, no make up, you make sure no one finds you attractive. Because then it’s you whose asking for it.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 23/09/2020 20:10

It’s strange though because even now you get people where you wouldn’t know their age. They may have an old fashioned face but with no lines. OTOH they could have lines but still have a youthful face

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