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Help me neighbours won't leave

26 replies

mollytrina · 21/09/2020 10:37

My neighbour has been a nightmare ever since we moved in 3 years ago we are renting saving up to buy our 1st home. We have to stay here for at least another 2 years to have the money we need also (landlord is the best).
Her landlord wants the property back to sell and has given her a date jan 2020 but she's got to be housed by the council so am I going to have to put up with them for another Christmas or will they go before
ANYONE KNOW OF HOW THE PROCEDURES WORK?

OP posts:
UnfinishedSymphon · 21/09/2020 10:51

What procedures? They've been given a date to leave, they've got months yet

HilaryBriss · 21/09/2020 10:51

Nobody knows whether they will leave before Christmas or not Confused

I assume that the landlady has given them a date of Jan 2021? If so, they don't even have to leave by this date (and if they are needing to be rehoused by the Counil, they probably won't). The landlady will have to go to court to get them evicted and they will probably stay until the bailiffs turn up. This can take weeks or months.

JoanJosephJim · 21/09/2020 10:53

Even if she goes over the end date of her tenancy it will takes months and months to evict her through the court.

If she wants to be housed by the council then she cannot make herself homeless, she will stay until the bitter end. I know that isn't what you want to hear.

HilaryBriss · 21/09/2020 10:54

Information on the 'procudures' on getting a tenant evicted can be found here: www.gov.uk/evicting-tenants

Thisisnotnormal69 · 21/09/2020 10:55

Sorry but it could be months longer than that

Bluntness100 · 21/09/2020 10:59

I think you’re phrasing this badly. Are you asking if the council,will home them earlier, no of course not, why would they. They have a home.

The council only homes you when you’ve been made homeless in this scenario

crowsfeet57 · 21/09/2020 11:00

OK Here's how it works.

  1. Landlord serves section 21 giving date to leave
  2. Tenant does not leave
  3. Landlord applies to court and gets court date (about 4 weeks)
  4. Court grants repossession order and gives them 14 or 28 days to leave
5.Tenant does not leave
  1. Landlord goes back to court and gets a bailiff's warrant usually for seven days ahead
  2. Tenant leaves on the day they are due to be evicted. So basically you're looking at April unless they find somewhere and leave willingly.

It's worth mentioning that if they leave before the date they are going to be evicted, the Housing team at the local council will consider that they are intentionally homeless and will not give them temporary accommodation.

Original poster
mollytrina · 21/09/2020 18:15

I'm just going on what she's said to my partneras I don't even give her the time of day. She's been given the date to be out by I just wanted to know if she'll be out by then or be longer as she wants to be housed.
I don't know about council housing ect hence why I was asking! People can be so rude on here. No wonder gets a bad rep.

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Original poster
mollytrina · 21/09/2020 18:16

@crowsfeet57

OK Here's how it works.
  1. Landlord serves section 21 giving date to leave
  2. Tenant does not leave
  3. Landlord applies to court and gets court date (about 4 weeks)
  4. Court grants repossession order and gives them 14 or 28 days to leave
5.Tenant does not leave
  1. Landlord goes back to court and gets a bailiff's warrant usually for seven days ahead
  2. Tenant leaves on the day they are due to be evicted. So basically you're looking at April unless they find somewhere and leave willingly.

It's worth mentioning that if they leave before the date they are going to be evicted, the Housing team at the local council will consider that they are intentionally homeless and will not give them temporary accommodation.

@crowsfeet57 thank you that's what I was wondering how it all works. Have to face it she might be here longer than me
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Butterer · 21/09/2020 18:19

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gnushoes · 21/09/2020 18:33

It's etc (short for etcetera) not ect. Hope you get rid of the terrible neighbour.

maddening · 21/09/2020 18:47

The issue with the council house availability really depends on area and what she needs, some areas have more availability and some have more availability of certain types of housing depending on local demand, what area are you in?

Boobissue · 21/09/2020 19:34

* ANYONE KNOW OF HOW THE PROCEDURES WORK?*

WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN CAPITALS? WE ARE ABLE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND IN LOWER CASE!

don't know about council housing ect hence why I was asking! People can be so rude on here. No wonder gets a bad rep.

It's etc, don't use MN then?

Hadjab · 21/09/2020 19:38

To be fair, @mollytrina, really the only person who knows if she’ll actually leave then is your neighbour - you’re going to have to sit this one out patiently I’m afraid.

Crocky · 21/09/2020 19:54

england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/section_21_eviction
Section 21s given on or after 29 August must give you at least 6 months' notice.

Arrivederla · 21/09/2020 20:00

@Boobissue

* ANYONE KNOW OF HOW THE PROCEDURES WORK?*

WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN CAPITALS? WE ARE ABLE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND IN LOWER CASE!

don't know about council housing ect hence why I was asking! People can be so rude on here. No wonder gets a bad rep.

It's etc, don't use MN then?

Why be so rude?
Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 21/09/2020 20:09

OK Here's how it works.
1. Landlord serves section 21 giving date to leave
2. Tenant does not leave
3. Landlord applies to court and gets court date (about 4 weeks)
4. Court grants repossession order and gives them 14 or 28 days to leave
5.Tenant does not leave.

What if the LL goes to the high Court instead? He can get an immediate reposession order and instruct bailiffs to evict straight away.
Councils seem to be unaware of this and still advise tenants to sit tight...until they find out that some LLs do take it straight to the High Court.

Boobissue · 21/09/2020 20:10

Why be so rude?

Because the OP was 🤔!

Arrivederla · 21/09/2020 20:29

@Boobissue

Why be so rude?

Because the OP was 🤔!

So you have to retaliate? Confused
Boobissue · 21/09/2020 20:41

@Arrivederla I'll retaliate if I want too, do you have to interfere?

I'm an adult, I don't need you to tell me what to do?

I'm not your child.

mumwon · 21/09/2020 20:43

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey
it costs a lot more but goodness knows what covid laws means for eviction time - especially with these new delays factored in
It was 6 months by the time we managed to evict our tenant from hell & than had the joy of cleaning (decontaminating) what was a nice neat property & I did the right thing (as did my agent) in contacting the housing officer at council at each stage which led her to getting a property before the bailiff eviction date

rosydreams · 21/09/2020 21:09

the tenants cant leave till the council say they can.If a person waiting for a council home leaves before trying to do everything they can to stop or delay a eviction the council will declare them intentionally homeless and not give them a council house

You have my sympathy i recall living next to a druggie who screamed day and night at her toddlers

Arrivederla · 22/09/2020 06:04

[quote Boobissue]@Arrivederla I'll retaliate if I want too, do you have to interfere?

I'm an adult, I don't need you to tell me what to do?

I'm not your child.
[/quote]
So you come on these threads in order to "retaliate" rather than to give thoughtful, kind, practical advice?

Well done you.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 22/09/2020 09:32

I don't know about council housing ect hence why I was asking! People can be so rude on here. No wonder gets a bad rep.

Who has been ‘so rude’? You asked a question and you got answers. I’m not sure what more you were expecting.

You didn’t come across very well in your OP to be honest. I don’t know how your neighbours have behaved, so can’t comment on why you’re so desperate to see them gone - but you seem to think that, when they’ve got a January date to leave, they’re somehow being unreasonable by not just going now. They’re not. Whatever you think of them, it’s their home.

Boobissue · 22/09/2020 10:41

*So you come on these threads in order to "retaliate" rather than to give thoughtful, kind, practical advice?

Well done you.*

And what advice have you given out @Arrivederla ..... on none! The irony?

You're far better trawling the boards and being the MN police, how would we cope without you?

GrinGrinGrinGrin

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