To ask if you would report benefit fraud?

[namechanged102]

Name changed.

Me and DP have a friend who recently reconciled with his ex. She was a single parent who hasn't worked because she had her first DC young.

Said friend does earn and has moved in with her, however she is still claiming as a single parent and pretty much everything is paid for - rent, council tax reduction etc.

They seem to be living such a comfortable lifestyle, they recently got a new car and have had numerous staycations. I feel like it isn't any of my business what they get up to, but me and DH work full time and still can't afford anywhere near the lifestyle that they lead. It just seems a bit shit.

AIBU?

So you want to report her out of jealousy?
Her partner has just moved in, she's probably not certain he'll stay if they've split before so I can't blame her. And just because he earns it doesn't mean he contributes to the house or she could rely on him to pay rent etc. and if there's children involved that complicates things.
Of course she should have informed the benefit office that he has moved in but how do you know for certain that she hasn't? She could still be entitled to help

No I would not.

Yes I would.

Unless they have told you they are doing this then their finances are none of your business.

No, I wouldn't.

But if you're going to report her then hold your head up and tell her so. It is so disgusting when people dob in their "friends" or family and then smile to their faces and pretend not to know anything about it.

No I wouldn’t absolutely not your jealous and bitter concentrate on your own life.

Yeh I would. By cheating the system she’s making it harder for genuine claimants to make claims as well as meaning that other people have less money as a direct result (either benefit cuts, cuts to other services and increased taxes).

People get annoyed over politicians claiming for second homes, Amazon not paying enough in tax, but think it’s okay for Sheila to claim as a single parent whilst her partner works.

YANBU but loads will come on here to say it's ok. No idea why it's considered ok for a single Mum to claim for everything while new partner has all his wages as 'spends'.
I don't understand why she can't work either. I had to go back quickly after both of mine & still had barely any cash left. It's a luxury to be able to stay home

@LaurieFairyCake

I wouldn't, I don't believe in it - I just don't give headspace to it

Wouldn't report anyone flouting Covid regulations either

You 'don't believe in' what? Would you report domestic abuse? A child trafficking ring? A meth lab next door? Or is it just stealing that you 'don't believe in' reporting?

Yes report but only if you are 100% sure of this person's finances and have seen her bank statements, if not you cannot be sure how much a person is receiving so praps have a conversation about her financial matters with her or at least tell her you are reporting her for what you assume she's getting

They have confirmed that she is claiming as a single parent. I'm not jealous, I would much rather lead an honest life and work hard for the things I have. It just seems unfair and it is actually fraud.

I'm a splintery bottom on this..I believe alot of cases are detected by tip offs but data matching/detection excercises also play a part. I think she is taking a huge risk if she is scamming due to the ramifications of being caught.

@Marisishidinginmyattic

Nope. You’re only considering reporting out of jealousy.

What a stupid stupid response !!

I would report without any hesitation if you're 100% they're committing benefit fraud.

The benefit system is there to help people in time of need, not to fund a fraudulent lavish lifestyles at tax payers expense.

Its theft and fraud.

I would report them. It’s not right and they are taking the tax payers money. That also means there is ‘less money’ to help the people who really are in need.

Nope. The worst thing that happened to the UK was buying into the whole Rupert Murdoch benefit fraud class war. If you want to get angry about people stealing from the masses focus your ire on Amazon Starbucks Apple etc Focus on the Tory government whose friends have all profited massively from the covid crisis. They've already capped child benefit for workers and we sat back and took it. What would you do if she gets reported, they break up, and then she's living on the breadline. Will it then make you happy to see her suffer? I prescribe a healthy dose of The Guardian. Put down your Daily Mail.

I've tried to report someone committing fraud nothing happened two years later they are still getting money to pay rent on a property that they dont live in i would LOVE to say that karma will catch up with them in the end sadly I know it doesn't

So far they have committed sex crimes all dismissed benefits fraud not investigated even driving and talking on the phone the police pulled them over and LET THEM GO no fine no warning just OK mate 👌 take it easy

I'm trying to let it not get to me its not the easiest thing as it feels so unfair

@namechanged102

They have confirmed that she is claiming as a single parent. I'm not jealous, I would much rather lead an honest life and work hard for the things I have. It just seems unfair and it is actually fraud.

If you would rather lead an honest life then tell her you're going to report her before you do. Simples.

Yes, I would. Benefit is there for those who are in need / out of their control. This is fraud.

Yes you should report, and more people should tbh. Not only is it illegal (fraud) but also morally wrong. This selfish ‘take whatever I can get’ attitude is awful. People can try and justify it all they like or call the OP ‘jealous’ it is still wrong.

I'm always surprised at how many people are so willing to tell others that they are committing benefit fraud. That's why I don't believe most of these threads.

Also remember that if she has more then 2 children and she stops claiming benefits, she wont be able to claim for them if she breaks up with her partner again. As she will then be struck by the 2 child rule. So she might be hedging her bets until they are on more stable ground. Rules like this can put benefit claimants in a tricky position.

I'm always surprised people can look at others bank accounts to establish the amount paid in

You're right, it is none of your business.

@Lalaloveyou2020

Nope. The worst thing that happened to the UK was buying into the whole Rupert Murdoch benefit fraud class war. If you want to get angry about people stealing from the masses focus your ire on Amazon Starbucks Apple etc Focus on the Tory government whose friends have all profited massively from the covid crisis. They've already capped child benefit for workers and we sat back and took it. What would you do if she gets reported, they break up, and then she's living on the breadline. Will it then make you happy to see her suffer? I prescribe a healthy dose of The Guardian. Put down your Daily Mail.

So, let her carry on defrauding the government of money entitled not entited to in case she ever breaks up with her boyfriend? So anyone thats ever needed help , should just continue to claim fraudulently , just in case their circumstances ever change again? Makes so much sense....