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Gerbils or hamster??

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Sometimeswinning · 19/09/2020 20:17

I've always been against this type of pet but as dd4 is asking for one I thought I would do some research. Apparently Gerbils are more family friendly than Hamsters. Anyone with advice?

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Areyousureted · 19/09/2020 21:45

Thanks, maybe not then !

LadyofTheManners · 19/09/2020 21:49

We actually had gerbils and they were a pain in the rear
They were also bloody cannibals.
We had the three evil Hannibal lecter wannabe bastards when my two were 5 and 6. God it was a terrible idea. The two bigger ones killed and ate the smaller one over night. First I knew was when DD went in to say good morning Gerbils and screamed. Before that they are through two cages.
Once they all died we didn't replace them.
DD is now 13 and for her birthday, as it was in Lockdown, she asked could she have a small pet. We agreed on a dwarf hamster.
He is the cutest little darling. He sleeps on and off during the day but he responds to his name now from under his nest. He is addicted to toast and the minute I make toast in the morning he smells it and runs up the cage squeaking for a corner. He loves his hamster ball and he has only nibbled a finger once but that was when we had just got him and he was probably scared poor love.
He's very easy to care for too.
I would so recommend a hamster over a gerbil

LadyofTheManners · 19/09/2020 21:50

*ate through

WiddlinDiddlin · 19/09/2020 21:52

What do you all want out of a small caged pet?

They all take work to become handleable and some will always be happier about being handled than others.

Mice and gerbils aren't great for small hands to handle, ditto the smaller types of hamster.

Larger hamsters IF you get one with a good temperament AND if you put in the work, can be better for handling... but still, typically don't love it.

Degus - nah.

Rats, yes, with the right habituation to handling, rats would be the best really.

They all have their distinctive pongs, mice being probably the worst followed closely by male rats.

Careful management of cage furniture and bedding can limit that, I have found rats to be considerably better smelling on Lignocel than on paper, for example.

Similarly, plastic shelves not wood, fleece hammocks that wash and dry easily, will hold less smell!

Boy rats do like to marinade in their own wee though, and boy mice dribble it everywhere.

Personally, if its a pet YOU want that a child will handle, I would go for rats.

Pick dumbos, they look adorable and have a nice group of three or four. Boys despite their pong, do tend to be much squishier than girls and much more inclined to snuggle, sleep on you, sit on shoulders etc.

Hamsters are very territorial and nocturnal, they are going to be active when a child is asleep and asleep when a kid is home from school/awake, which leads to them being fairly grumpy about hands reaching into cages.

As far as space goes, hamster and gerbils actually need about the same amount of space rats need, just no one ever gives them that!

If you want a pet that isn't really handled, I do like Degus, but they are like furry flubber, mini chinchillas on speed and if they get stuck in 'danger' mode the noise is VERY annoying!

Beamur · 19/09/2020 21:57

Gerbils. Great spectator pets, busy during the day, can be quite tame and will happily come and take food from you. Don't smell, very easy to look after. We had a big glass tank with integral shelves. Really good habitat.
Hamsters. Beyond cute, if tame and friendly can be good to handle. But, can also be bitey (deep bites!) Sleep all day make a lot of noise at night. Rather dim.
Guinea pigs. Lots of personality, friendly, not generally bitey (but again, if they do bite, they have massive teeth!) But need lots of cleaning, very sociable do need company and interest.
Mice/rats. I've never had either. DH would love a rat, but we have 3 cats so it doesn't seem fair.
Degus. Escape artists. Scratchy as they walk on their claws.
To be honest, for a 4 year old, I'd go with gerbils and not actually handle them. They're great to watch and interact a lot - we used to give ours things like egg boxes stuffed with bedding and food and watch them take it apart. They love to chew and make themselves the cosiest of homes!
Ours used to tap on the glass to get your attention when you were in the same room Grin

safariboot · 19/09/2020 21:57

Gerbils were our first pets in my childhood. We had a fancy setup with all the tubes and stuff. Big advantage I think is they're active in the day, whereas hamsters are notoriously nocturnal. Things to watch out for is they can't have a wire mesh wheel, it needs to be solid, and a solid enclosure is better than a wire cage too.

They would nip us if we tried to pick them up though, we never got ours used to being handled.

HorsePellets · 19/09/2020 21:57

Gerbils.

Gerbils every time. They aren’t nocturnal, they aren’t vicious, miserable, fang-ing bastards, and vets don’t hate them.

If you do decide on a hamster, don’t get a dwarf hamster, because they take the viciousness and ramp it up to hellbeast proportions.

CrazyToast · 19/09/2020 22:01

Rats are the best. They are like litte dogs, they come when called, are such funny little personalities.

OTherwise I like hamsters

Beamur · 19/09/2020 22:03

The cannibalism does sometimes happen to be fair. I don't think that they kill each other, but gerbils do like a bit of protein and I think if their cage mate died, they do sometimes have a nibble...
It's a bit gross but they're not sentimental..
You will rarely see a happier face than a gerbil with a little bit of cheese or boiled egg!

ncd5785 · 19/09/2020 22:05

I had a lovely gerbil. She was so sweet, very fast and not keen on being handled (but never bit me). She was friendly and would take food from my hand and stand on her back feet, holding it in her paws to eat it. I used to give her toilet roll tubes and cardboard boxes and she loved shredding them. She always seemed so busy. I still miss her, it's a shame they don't live long.

I've had a few guinea pigs, apart from the first, they were wonderful. One in particular I've really not got over loosing and I still miss her. I'm very tempted to get another one. I do love the idea of a rat but no experience of owning one

Clarinet53 · 19/09/2020 22:05

Having had hamsters and gerbils with small children.

I'd go with a pet rat. My daughter was unsure when we first got ours. With daily handling it turned out more like a dog. Would sit with her to watch TV. Had a harness so ratty could go outside for walks round the village.

Really are the best small pet

Sunnydaysstillhere · 19/09/2020 22:12

We have rabbits. Ds wanted mice. He got one of those Dino eggs that you soak and 'hatch'.. He was genuinely gutted it wasn't a real baby Dino that emerged!!
He was 4!!

2andahalfpints · 19/09/2020 22:17

Syrian hamster all the way

Russian dwarfs are very fast and the two we had were bitey

Gerbils did not like being handled and would fight each other

Syrian with time was lovely and tame, happy to be handled early evening

YouJustDoYou · 19/09/2020 22:20

Rats. Smart, sweet, gentle, intelligent creatures that are very, very clean little delightful pets. People are always put off by them, but they are awesome. Gerbils and hamsters are just empty headed (and hamsters can be bitey vicious little fuckers).

Gertie75 · 19/09/2020 22:22

Our Syrian hamster has recently died, she w lovely and so friendly, she used to come out when she heard our voice and loved to sit on us to be stroked.

She did end up in our bedroom though because she was noisy at night and woke my daughter up.

Whichever you choose make sure you get a big cage with plenty of things to do in it, pet shops will happily sell you ones that are way too small.

We had the 'Barney' cage.

YouJustDoYou · 19/09/2020 22:24

Oh can I hyjack thread? Do people think rats smell more than hamsters? We have experience with hamsters but wondering about getting a rat

It entirely depends on what bedding you give them, and how often you clean them out. Mine stank fast on shredded newspapers, but I switched to a pine smell dust free cat litter and now it's fine, they just get cleaned out in 5 mins every 2 days. Such easy, wonderful little creatures

Smallinthesmoke · 19/09/2020 22:26

Getting "a gerbil" for a four year old isn't right at all.
Firstly, no decent breeder will sell you one gerbil as they are social animals and you would need 2 or 3.
Secondly, your child won't be able to play with the gerbils as they are bloody fast. The most you can hope for is some hand feeding and even then when you start your child may get nipped. You will be the one doing all the care and cleaning (hopefully of a lovely big aquarium style set up) and I can guarantee in two weeks time that your 4 year old isn't interested. Wink Oh and they wake up at all hours and are bloody noisy shredding bog rolls at 1am.
I adore my gerbils but please think again for such a small child.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 19/09/2020 22:28

Cats.

Cookerhood · 19/09/2020 22:30

Rats all the way. Adorable. Intelligent. Smelly :(
Do NOT get "a" rat. They are social animals and must be kept in groups.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 19/09/2020 22:30

Seriously though, hamsters are nocturnal so not really great for a four year old. They are also quite fast and can be hard to handle.

Guinea pigs live a long time and while they are happy to sit on your lap they are actually a bit boring imo. They also need a big cage and need cleaning out a lot.

Gerbils are fast and freak me out Shock.

waitingforadulthood · 19/09/2020 22:40

Neither. Rats are the best. You can train them like dogs- they come to their names, fetch, paw, are litter trained. Seem to genuinely adore human interaction and companionship .
Second best are guinea pigs.

Sometimeswinning · 19/09/2020 23:40

Oh @Smallinthesmoke I've already said I will get 2 gerbils for company. No I'm not expecting my 4 year old to care, play and be soley responsible ( I have mentioned this rttt) We have pets. My children are all involved, including the 4 year old. This is the first request for an inside, caged animal. Luckily most people have given advice, apart from the person who suggested I should get a ty toy for her (although this comment was probably my favourite)

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Ormally · 19/09/2020 23:55

Just getting used to 3 gerbils - got them almost 3 weeks ago. They are very sweet. One is very sociable and will do anything for treats, coming to look expectantly at us as the 'on duty gerbil'. One very timid but seems to love the radio! I agree about not being too hopeful about handling, 3 is a tall order. I had single hamsters as a child but you just can't keep track of 3 if wanting to get them out. Not too bad though, as, if one doesn't live as long as the others, you won't be in a position of having one single unsocialised pet.
They are incredible recyclers. Everything chewed to smithereens! Get a metal food bowl and don't go to town on fancy or pricey toys - toilet rolls, paper bags folded into tents, straw chewing mats...some of the things that have all gone in a night. Got a home with a glass base and very glad about that, as they would make light work of plastic.
They seem very clean and orderly too, at the moment.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 20/09/2020 00:07

Guinea pigs... pain in the ass if I'm honest

They smell they don't the hay smells
need to be cleaned out a couple times a week they need cleaned every day , they are very untidy and sows in season do string pee for 24-36 hours
and you have to have alot of patience with them yes because they are vunerable prey animals with very few defences , they don't kick, bite as a rule , climb
, they take AGES to get used to you routine and food they need to know that you are there for them
and can be quite difficult to catch they can be tricky but you need to think smarter (which TBH isn't hard with guinea-pigs )

You need a lot of space
You need to protect them
You will be driven mad with the stray hay
You need 2+ and they need bonded
They break your bloody heart when they die Sad

OP get yourself over to "Small Pets".

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 20/09/2020 00:11

Cats

Have to agree , our two cats are actually easier than the piggies .
Big enough to let themselves in/out the catdoor and be independant
Small enough that we don't need to worry about walks

They own the house and call upon us to feed/talk to/clean the tray . They're not fussed who does it , as long as it's done Wink.

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