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To think working from your sofa is unprofessional?

306 replies

LajesticVantrashell · 17/09/2020 08:14

Like most people, I’ve been working at home now for close to six months along with the rest of my colleagues. We have a spare room for an office, so I’ve had to set up in our bedroom working from my vanity table/desk where I normally do my make-up.

My colleague, so as not to drip feed, earns considerably more than me (think £30k more) and lives alone paying a nominal amount of rent in relation to her salary (I know this because she told me). Yet, she works from her sofa every day. Yes, none of my business, she can do what she wants but she’s constantly moaning about her back and being uncomfortable.

Yesterday, we had a meeting with a potential client and we all dialled in. We all had certain bit we needed to present and my colleague was again, sitting on her sofa with her laptop on her knees. This meant the screen was wobbling about everywhere as she scrabbled to reach her notes around her. To me, it just looked completely unprofessional and I’ll admit, it really annoyed me.

So AIBU to think that on a high earning salary, with enough space in your living room (because I can see from the Teams calls) and after six months with potentially long term home working being suggested, that she should invest in a bloody desk?!

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Brighterthansunflowers · 17/09/2020 09:05

YABU

I’ve worked on my sofa for six months because it’s the only place I have! I bought an adjustable bed table which I use as a desk so my laptop isn’t on my knee.

If this had happened when I was in my 20s and in house shares I would’ve been stuck working on my bed.

Is it really beyond the realms of your imagination that not everyone has a spare room to turn into an office?

LajesticVantrashell · 17/09/2020 09:06

To reiterate: I don't care where she works from. I sometimes move into the other room and sit in the chair if the WiFi is crap, but I'd never do this for an external client meeting.

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Nanny0gg · 17/09/2020 09:09

This is where wfh is mad!

H&S completely out the window; work life impinging on home.

And as a colleague I would NOT want to see anyone's bedroom. Thats a personal space.

Its ALL unprofessional!

Pheobeasy · 17/09/2020 09:10

It wouldn't bother me her working from her sofa, but for external meetings I would have thought it easier to follow the video call if the laptop was on a stable surface, it's so distracting with it wobbling about. If that was a table in front of the sofa then wouldn't bother me though.

Choosingmyring · 17/09/2020 09:11

Until this weekend I had to work from my sofa or bed as we didn’t have a table. I’ve picked up a cheap Ikea desk and chair just because I was starting to really feel it on my neck.

I think it’s fine to work from wherever you’re comfortable at home but not for a professional call.

MadamHoooch · 17/09/2020 09:11

And as a colleague I would NOT want to see anyone's bedroom

I live in a 2 bedroom flat with DH. We both wfh. His desk is in the living room. Mine is in the bedroom. I'm terribly sorry if that offends you, but I'm afraid we don't have an office.

We have worked from home like this for 5 years now and I have never encountered anyone being sniffy about it.

Pukkatea · 17/09/2020 09:11

I have to work from my sofa, there is nowhere else. My back is destroyed and if I had another option I would jump at it, so I struggle to believe she's doing it because she wants to.

FOKKYFC · 17/09/2020 09:12

I think it's very clear you don't give a fuck where she works as long as she doesn't bob about like a bloody Weeble and, as per, people are piling in as if you'd asked whether she should be made to wear sackcloth and ashes for the next meeting 🙄

LajesticVantrashell · 17/09/2020 09:12

To clarify (again): my laptop is directed away from the bed as much as possible and I use a background when on a client call

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 17/09/2020 09:13

@Livelovebehappy

Does your company not do DSE checks? We have to have a set up which adheres to health and safety, and I’m pretty sure working with a laptop balanced on her knee long term is going to create posture problems further down the line. Maybe something you mention to management so they can advise or help her with equipment?
We do DSE checks but very few of us actually meet the requirements working from home. I've been using the dining table and a dining room chair since March (thankfully I'm back in the office part time now) and I don't have the room for a proper desk or office chair. Normally I wouldn't be allowed to work from home but this is obviously a bit different!
Choosingmyring · 17/09/2020 09:13

You need to reread your title. You’ve said ‘working from your sofa is unprofessional’ but now you’re saying it’s just the call that’s the issue.

RedRumTheHorse · 17/09/2020 09:15

@Nanny0gg

This is where wfh is mad!

H&S completely out the window; work life impinging on home.

And as a colleague I would NOT want to see anyone's bedroom. Thats a personal space.

Its ALL unprofessional!

You are being ridiculous. It's up to each individual as an adult to take some responsibility legally for their own H&S.

So if you get backache from your working set up, then as an adult you have a responsibility to ask for help from your workplace to modify it.

If you are comfortable working from your sofa or bed then as long as your laptop camera isn't making people dizzy with it's wobbling than crack on.

TwoMuchTwoYoung · 17/09/2020 09:15

I agree with you about her complaining about her back, can't understand why she doesn't move.
I've tried dining table, sofa, bed and have settled on the kitchen island mainly stood up!
When I used my bed the background was plain so you couldn't tell I was on my bed. Also the moving screen would really wind me up.
But I think seeing a bed in the background is way more unprofessional than the sofa. Can't you tilt your screen so it can't be seen?

Xuli · 17/09/2020 09:15

I'm with you, but I think it's probably one of those irrational annoyances that's quite petty - though I feel it too.

Our work will send us anything we need: desks, monitors, WiFi extenders, you name it. Plus I know all my colleagues are saving anywhere from £100-£400 a month on commuting into London.

6 months in when we KNOW now that we're going to be working from home at least part of the time for the long haul, just act like an adult and get a decent set up at home, either through work or with some of the money your saving!

I don't actually say it to my colleagues though, unless they complain about a particular thing that I know work can fix, because I know it's my problem being wound up by it

Pinkypie86 · 17/09/2020 09:16

I don't understand why people have to give two hoots what others 'may or may not' have/do.
Wind your neck in.

AndwhenyougetthereFoffsomemore · 17/09/2020 09:16

Well, if your real concern is her health (& you are clearly fairly close): next time she complains about her back can you say you've been looking into this too with WFH and wondering whether to invest in a few things to make your workstation more work friendly given how long WFH is going on: seating/desk/mouse/ergonomic supports etc. Ask if she'd like you to share some links/chat to HR with you about financial support for this sort of thing - might be helpful for you as well as her back!

IndiaMay · 17/09/2020 09:16

I work from sofa or dining table. We're in a flat and dont have a spare room. The dining table is ok but the chair / table height is totally wrong and to do it all day causes pain. If I move about a bit I find it more comfortable so I switch and do a morning on the sofa with my legs up, afternoon at the table and vice versa. Admittedly I would always be at the table on a video call for professional reasons. Some people dont have the space!

CeibaTree · 17/09/2020 09:16

Bloody hell OP, life is way too short for you to be so concerned about this But if you think it is affecting/impacting on your work, then get your line manager to have a word with her.

Bubbletrouble43 · 17/09/2020 09:17

Lol. The Internet connection in what serves as my office was crap the other day ( problem fixed) so I resorted to giving zoom lessons in the spare bedroom... Sat on the bed as its a tiny room with barely any other furniture. Don't think it affected the quality of my work tbh.

CoralFish · 17/09/2020 09:18

Well the wobbly screen is the only thing affecting you, so I would address that - "presentation went really well, but I think you need a tray or something for your laptop next time, as the screen kept wobbling and it was a bit distracting".

If she moans about her back, nothing to stop you saying "can't you get a proper chair/desk? My back would hurt too if I had to work from the sofa with my laptop on my knee,"

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 17/09/2020 09:18

Your colleague needs to sort out the wobbling due to the laptop being on her lap. I can't see why she should buy a desk and put it in her lounge though. I wouldn't want a desk in my lounge.

For those who wfh with beds in the background, can't you select a backdrop so your home is not on display? You can do this with Zoom and I think you can with MS Teams too.

mcoyssalt · 17/09/2020 09:19

Why can’t you tell her to buy a desk? And advise her where you got it from.

loobyloo1234 · 17/09/2020 09:19

YABU - it doesnt affect you and as long as the works done, it shouldnt matter where people sit within their own house

Daisyandroses · 17/09/2020 09:20

I don’t know how anyone can work on a sofa, or even from a laptop long term!

I’m lucky my company have set me up with a desktop now, which they’ve done purposely to make sure we are all set up at a desk properly. I still make sure I get dressed (even if comfy flowy dress), do my make up and keep the routine by ‘going to work’.

I agree it’s unprofessional. I like to be able to close the door on my work too and wouldn’t be able concentrate on the sofa.

FiveGoToLidl · 17/09/2020 09:20

I think video calls are the scourge of home working

who bloody cares where you sit fgs. I am currently doing a call on my lap. If I have a day of calls, I tend to sit at the table.

there are 4 other adults in the house and sometimes other people need the 'best' working space and the others have to compromise. That's just life.

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