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Who put the Mom in Mumsnet?

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tornadoalley · 16/09/2020 11:29

I have see mum/mother written as Mom, a fair bit on Mumsnet recently.

Do we have a lot of American Moms on here?

Has Mumsnet gone transatlantic?

Have we lost our 'Mum' to 'Mom' in the UK?

OP posts:
BackforGood · 17/09/2020 00:12

Maybe there should be a sticky with frequently asked questions, like about mom or why non-parents or dads are here.

This, or some kind of filter that is picked up when you go to post a thread that has been done over and over in recent months.

I realise most people aren't on here every day, but these insulting threads do get tiresome when they are repeated so often.

WithIcePlease · 17/09/2020 00:22

I think I may need to wash my bed clothes again too. It must've been almost 2 weeks since that one was asked
About 4 weeks since this mom thing last came up
NTA is a great suggestion

lyralalala · 17/09/2020 00:28

@Brahumbug

I have no problem with americans or the USA, in fact I love the USA. But yes, I hate americanisms creeping into our language, I have no problem with them in the USA or Americans using them. It is just sad when you see things such as Father Christmas being replaced with Santa Claus, which is very definitely american. Halloween is not import but trick or treat is. My DH, who just turned 60 remembers many Halloween parties when he was a child, including parties held at school.
Santa and guising at Halloween have both been around in Scotland for much longer than 60 years
lyralalala · 17/09/2020 00:30

Do people not stop and think for a second just how many of these "Americanisms" were taken to the US by immigrants from various parts of the UK in the first place?

There is more to the UK than the small part (of England, usually) of the UK that you come from

Quaagars · 17/09/2020 00:40

I'm assuming Mom is used by some because there's a broad range of people from all over using the site?
Could also be regional thing as people have already said

middleager · 17/09/2020 06:56

@Quaagars

I'm assuming Mom is used by some because there's a broad range of people from all over using the site? Could also be regional thing as people have already said
There's no 'could' about it.

I would not say Mam 'could' be a regional thing as it's pretty well known it is.

Mom is hardly some enigma, some scarcely used shorthand.

middleager · 17/09/2020 06:59

@BackforGood

Maybe there should be a sticky with frequently asked questions, like about mom or why non-parents or dads are here.

This, or some kind of filter that is picked up when you go to post a thread that has been done over and over in recent months.

I realise most people aren't on here every day, but these insulting threads do get tiresome when they are repeated so often.

It is insulting. We never have to explain Mam or Mammy or Nana etc. I live in a massive city, Birmingham, where Mom - especially among the traditional working classes, such as my family - is the norm.
Somethingkindaoooo · 17/09/2020 07:18

@MindyStClaire

I can live with "Mom" if people promise me it's regional and not American. It's "gotten" I can't stand. Blatant Americanism. And anyone who says "oh no, it's old English - ill gotten gains and all that" - that's rubbish. No one in the UK said "gotten" 20 years ago. I can't stand it!

A) Gotten is normal in NI and Scotland at the very least, and always has been.

B) Wtf is so bad about America?

Hear hear.

Canadians have similar word usages. Are we to be chucked out too?
To that poster- you wouldn't call someone out for their skin colour, but this is ok?

And many NORTH American usages started in the UK, and were transported.

MindyStClaire · 17/09/2020 08:53

I think you're ok, Somethingkindaoooo. It always seems to be just American language and customs that are deemed so distasteful. Canada seems to be much more acceptable on MN.

Mintychoc1 · 17/09/2020 10:41

I find it hilarious people are trying to make this a racist issue!

Americanisms are used primarily by teens because they're deemed more cool, and they pick them up from watching YouTube and Netflix. Some adults then jump on the bandwagon, presumably trying to be modern and with it.

So, if you are an adult, grown up in England, never lived abroad, no relatives who live abroad, and you say "gotten" - can you tell me, hand on heart, that you have been saying "gotten" instead of "got" since your learned to talk? Or have you started doing it in the last few years because you've heard young people doing it, and you've seen it on mumsnet?!

Quaagars · 17/09/2020 11:14

There's no 'could' about it.
I would not say Mam 'could' be a regional thing as it's pretty well known it is

No, but it's definitely not the norm in these here parts, whereas I have heard of Mam and Ma.
We don't all know everything, after all.
Now I know it's Birmingham area from this thread ( and probably others too) which is why I didn't know it as a regional usage - I'm nowhere bloody near Birmingham lol

Now I know. Every day's a school day and all that

NotTheMrMenAgain · 17/09/2020 11:28

Often, when this comes up I mention that I'm a Brummie of long-standing pedigree and that as far as I know 'Mom' was used as far back as my great, great grandparents. And I'm sure they didn't invent it. Americans got it from us.

ZarasHouse · 17/09/2020 11:41

Within my cousins (either side), we have used at various points Mum, Mummy, Mam, Mom, Mommy, Mother and Mama. All within the UK Shock I have a big family, but still. I think there's so much regional variation, and class variation too. I think people forget about our other indigenous languages such as Scottish Gaelic and Welsh, too.

ZarasHouse · 17/09/2020 11:43

I mean Mam is he welsh Mother so I'm sure there are plenty of Mams on here too. Hi Mams Smile👋

afaloren · 17/09/2020 11:46

Loads of us in the Midlands say Mom. Mine makes me spell it ‘Mum’ in cards because she thinks it’s posher Grin but I still pronounce it Mom.

AriettyHomily · 17/09/2020 11:47

70 billion threads on this. Regional.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 17/09/2020 11:47

Not again Confused

liverbird10 · 18/09/2020 08:58

Grin The Brummies have invaded. Everybody run for your lives!

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