To leave new job in nice organisation for chaotic better paid job

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WWYD - beginning of career but also have young DD. Was contacted out of the blue about a role which would be v stressful but is paid significantly better. Current organisation fits my beliefs but the role is limited. Alternative organisation is ethically not aligned to me.
Saving up for a deposit for first home.
YABU - Stay at nice place
YANBU - Take the stress and the money

I should add the offered role is likely to be a big leg up the career ladder. Help please!

It isn't worth it. Money isn't everything. I currently work at an organisation that is shit. It pays well but I'm desperate to leave.

We are in similar positions. I would take the role if it is a step forward, which it is. I recently rejected a job offer because although it was more money, there was no career progression and i'd just be moving sideways.

I think I might consider the stressful job, but only if I was relatively carefree in my personal life. No kids basically and probably (and I say this as no spring chicken myself) if I was quite young. I personally wouldn't do it at my age, which is mid thirties.

I fundamentally couldn't work somewhere ethically not aligned to me, so that would decide it for me.

For you, with a young DD, take the job that suits you more with her hours / location of childcare / her needs. Life will be so much easier.

Would the extra money make a significant difference? Be able to afford more childcare while still saving for a deposit.

But do you actually think you can make it work and what support do you have? Will DDs other parent take on some of the childcare burden, plus any unexpected sick days etc. Will the role require travel, long days etc that are hard to balance with DDs needs and could this be detrimental to your performance/fitting into the new role?

You could do well but you could also find the change very hard to deal with or your employer might decide that you aren't committed enough and you might be let go during the probationary period, leaving you without any job at all.

I think it depends on how much better the pay is. How far ethically they are from you, and how long you would need to stay to move up the ladder.

Money is great, but if the stressful job will affect you at home, is it worth it?

At the beginning of your career and a big pay increase? Take the job, do it for 2 years, squeeze every opportunity out of it and work hard at managing upwards. Then find a job that suits you better somewhere else that's a better organisational fit and ona much higher salary than you are on now.

You are at the beginning of your career, this is the time to gain experience and get up the career ladder. I would definitely be tempted with the new job.
On the other hand, if the company is not ethically aligned with you, can you imagine working for them? I would go in and check them out to see if you think you could actually work there for say 2 years before moving on.

It isn't a step forward if you're stepping into a company whose work you object to for ethical reasons though. It is indeed the beginning of your career. Do you really want this company's name on your cv?

I've just done the opposite! Honestly working for a company who's ethics don't allign with yours will suck your soul dry. The final push for me was a new incompetent manger who did indeed create chaos. I suppose it depends on your personality but a chaotic workplace does not suit my methodical ways of working and my new role affords me much more autonomy.

I didn't take it as ethically objected? Just not as aligned as her current place. For example, I currently work at a charity where I am very passionate about the cause in my personal life as well as work. If I moved to say, an animal charity, it would be less aligned to me but it doesn't mean it's bad.

I have made this move... I don’t regret it but would move back to the company with more aligned values and manageable/consistent workload given the current external pressures at the moment. Work which doesn’t align to your values does add a level of pressure which is difficult to quantify.

Interesting... wonder if op is able to be more specific.

Going from childrens charity to animal charity is one thing. Going from animal charity to battery farm is quite another!

I think if you aren't keen on the company though, you do need to be careful as when you go to love on, you might find yourself pigeon holed.

Don’t do it.

@StarchyStanley I agree - depends if the move is to something horrendous! Like going from conservation to working in the petrol industry

Thanks for the advice! Very mixed. It's not anything evil. Its intentions are good but leadership is where the difference in values lies. DP is very supportive.

The thing I have found was that the roles that I thought would be perfect for me were not and some that I tried a bit reluctantly turned out to be brilliant.

Early in your career I would say the risk would be worth taking. As PP says, give it a try for two years.

Really make use of the interview, to find out as far as possible what they are like. Work out some questions which essentially say the same thing, to see how consistent they are on tricky subjects.

Good luck.

Will the new job give you better opportunities? Better schools, better house, better prospects to move on from?

I think I would base my decision on that but it all depends what you want in life.

@finallyhere that's interesting, thanks.

Catnoir, yes absolutely. We're currently renting in a horrible area, dog poo and glass all over the park, kids terrorising the place on off road bikes. Desperate to get DD out of here. Very much leaning towards the money.

Another complication is the well paid job is a 12 month contract so might run into some difficulties getting a mortgage? It's in an organisation that tends to keep people, though.

Btw, sorry, I did read your op, butter some reason thought you'd been offered the job already! If it's question of whether you should interview or not, I would say yes, go for it. You might find out more at the interview and either confirm it would be awful or not 🤷‍♀️.

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I have been offered the job :)

Ah ok, I'm cleverer than I thought then 🧐.

So, did you have an interview, or did they just offer you the job over the phone? I don't know what I'd think about a job offer, where I haven't applied and haven't interviewed or seen the workplace. But maybe that's the way it is at the moment.

It depends on what sort of person you are. Are you the type of dive in and untangle the chaos? Or do you like regimented process driven workplaces. I am much more of the former. I also feel you are more appreciated at chaotic places because you create a process that works and everyone is happy.