My husband called the police on our neighbours last night

[Lois345]

We are next to a HMO and the three early 20s living there have been pretty irresponsible since they moved in, and two weeks in a row they have had loud parties keeping my husband up (I am in the baby's room at the moment so don't hear them). He called the police at 5am. How would you have reacted? Ring the doorbell at 5am, ask them to turn it down, talked to them the next day? I am much more scared of conflict than he is and would probably have done nothing, but he just had enough. I was pretty shocked when he told me this morning. No point in contacting their landlord as the flat is owned by notorious Mark Fortune... sigh.

@PinkiOcelot not stupid question at all. HMO is an abbreviation for Home of Multiple Occupants. It means a flat which is let by 3 or more people who are not related i.e. not by a family. it is usually students or younger people

I don’t know the in and outs and I don’t know the correct terminology but I think HMO licensing can or does include Requirements for landlords to take reasonable steps to minimise antisocial behaviour of their tenants.

Maybe it’s worth checking with your local HMO licensing team.

In the meantime, document EVERYTHING. If possible get other neighbours to complain as well. A Complaint letter signed by a few of you will have far more weight than an individual complaint.

It doesn’t sound like the tenants are students but if they are contact their college or university.

Good for your husband, hopefully your other neighbours will be supportive in raising complaints too as this really helps getting it taken seriously.

@AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit Having shit neighbours is horrendous, I really feel for you.

my other half once had to ring police on the neighbours in our previous home.A mother locked her toddler outside alone not in their garden but outside a block of flats

Only thing to do if your neighbors are unruly ,you dont want things getting ugly

I feel for you, next door to me was an unlicensed HMO and one particular lot of stunts were practically nocturnal. We called the Council and it turned out the landlord wasn't registered. Although the Council couldn't prove there were 3+ unrelated people there, the landlord got a massive fine for failing to register and subsequent tenants have been OK. (Still no HMO licence as landlords are skinflints and don't want to do the fire upgrades etc.)

Do you know when the licence is due for renewal? Currently they need to re-apply every 3 years, the Council's HMO unit should be able to tell you. Records of anti-social behaviour could be a basis for refusing renewal but this wouldn't necessarily happen automatically and you (and hopefully other neighbours) may need to put in an objection to the Licensing Committee to avoid the renewal being rubber stamped.

Fortune is banned from being a landlord due to his behaviour
However he is reported to be renting via Air B&B

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit

I hate - absolutely fucking HATE - loud, shit neighbours. Mine has been on holiday all week and not having to listen to her fucking dog barking and her arguing with whoever she screams at down the phone has been absolute and utter bliss. Literal heaven. She's back any minute now and I'm already dreading the sight of it.

Inconsiderate, selfish cunts like that should all be dumped on an island together far away from decent, peaceful people. Absolute cunts the lot of them.

Cunts.

OMG who is this women...love it

@SentientAndCognisant

Fortune is banned from being a landlord due to his behaviour However he is reported to be renting via Air B&B

How do you ban someone from being a landlord?

In Scotland landlords need to register and be a "fit and proper person".

Police have been all over this lately. Not just cos of covid but with people not going abroad they've been acting out at home- take a look at what happened to dartmoor and pity what Spain/Greece have to put up with usually.

The local authority maintains a register of landlords, in 2013 fit and proper landlords. landlords

Most landlords in Scotland must register with their Council to ensure that they are a fit and proper person to let property. It is the owner of the property who must apply. Private landlords in Scotland are legally required to apply for registration with their local authority. Operating as an unregistered landlord is a criminal offence. A registration number shows that a landlord is approved by the local authority to let property.

@PinkiOcelot

I don’t blame him. Disgusting behaviour. I hope you’ve make plenty of noise today when they’re obviously trying to sleep

Sorry if this is an idiotic question, but what’s HMO?

HMO - house of multiple occupancy eg students

@Mochudhu @SentientAndCognisant
This is really useful information, thank you! We have only lived in Scotland for a year, so the legal side of this is all new to us.

Also, I am SO pleased that no one is saying that this is just one of those things you have to accept if you want to live in a big city

@SentientAndCognisant

The local authority maintains a register of landlords, in 2013 fit and proper landlords. landlords

Most landlords in Scotland must register with their Council to ensure that they are a fit and proper person to let property. It is the owner of the property who must apply. Private landlords in Scotland are legally required to apply for registration with their local authority. Operating as an unregistered landlord is a criminal offence. A registration number shows that a landlord is approved by the local authority to let property.

I'm familiar with the registers, but I wasn't clear how someone is banned. Has he been blacklisted from the Scottish register or prevented from registering?

@Lois345 thank you x

If you understand why ask?@loveisagirlnameddaisy

My understanding is he isn’t allowed to register his properties , as he’s not a fit person. HAs failed to demonstrate being a good landlord and there were court action

No,I do not think he is black listed. There would need to be due process that was followed , and that has been described in previous post

He can reapply to join register at three yearly intervals

Totally right to call the police . We have problems with residents in the temporary flat. If its after 11pm and just music we call the anti-social behaviour team at the council. If its fighting/ things being smashed etc then the police are sent.
And before ppl say 11 is early it's the rules set by the council.

I always used to either shut up and put up, or go round myself and try to amicably sort it out. Once I had DC I completely changed my tune - these days if I can't just live with it I would call the police.

As a PP said, someone showing that level of incosideration is not likely to listen to you politely ask them to be quiet, and you have then opened the door to a whole world of trouble.

Your neighbors were being very aggressive in their behavior.

@Trikc

It doesn’t sound like the tenants are students but if they are contact their college or university.

And what is the University going to do? Seriously they will not care as it is nothing to do with them when students are not at Uni