To change career from teaching to a 9-5 type job?

[careerchangerranger]

Just as the title says really.
I'm not happy in teaching anymore and I have succeeded in getting a non teaching job that pays well. It hasn't started yet as I have to work in my notice. However, I am starting to have niggles and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.
Obviously childcare needs will be all year round now. I plan on using a mix of holiday clubs and my holiday days (and dh's) to cover that. What else could potentially be different or would need time to plan ahead for or think of?
TIA.

what sector though?

The only industry in the private sector that I can think of that offers good salaries with fast progression & little overtime/pressure is tech.

I would suggest the following:
I worked full time with school age/pre school kids for 20 plus years.
Work out and book your hols as soon as they open.
Always tag hols on to bank hols. So Easter, may half term, last week of August. If there is an option to buy extra leave, do it. You won't regret it.
Also, mentally prepare yourself for the fact that your kids may not want to do kids holiday clubs and there is an awkward spot around 10/11 when they don't want child care but are too young probably not to have it.

It sounds brilliant. Can you employ me please?!

Bloody hell, I’m desperate to know what your new job is, OP

me too
can you PM me OP pretty please 😂

I did it OP. 11 years primary and then went to the civil service 3 years ago. Best thing I ever did. We use a mix of lieu days, annual leave, flexi and grandparents for the holidays. I have so much time for my children now and my work-life balance is ideal. I don’t miss the holidays at all, they simply were not worth it for the stress the job put us all under. Good luck.

Go for it! I want out too!

It’s not just the holidays that need covering it’s the numerous inservice days as well along with the 1.30/2.30 finishes before summer/ Christmas etc holidays.
Just to add that in my workplace there is no guarantee that you get the school holidays off-always depends on every other staff members requests.
We can have either a week at Easter or the October week but not both.

I’ve made the leap out. I don’t regret it.

But there are a fee things I miss:

1. Camaraderie. A good school staff team is like no other (except in the emergency services I think).

1. Authority. I miss being the one making decisions all day. Even if it was only with kids. I don’t line manage anybody in my new job and I kind of miss being “bossy”

1. Marking. Just kidding, it’s bliss never to have to have to do a single tick or draw a star ever again

This has been such a useful and thought provoking thread for all us teachers on the fence contemplating a leap out of teaching!

see if I can transfer it ti what will be my new private pension.

There are vanishingly few circumstances where it makes any kind of sense to transfer out of a defined pension scheme

It must be possible to to told what pension you can expect from your years of service so far. In an ideal world, in retirement, that pension would pay your bills. You can then use your 'private' defined contribution pension top up and for 'treats'.

A 'private' defined contribution pension will make no promises about how much you will have in retirement. Get an estimate are of what lump sum you would require to replicated what you would get from your teachers pension. You might be quite surprised to discover how much of a lump sum you would need to replace that.

Once they tell you what pension you

Please pm me your job as well OP I am so curious! Is it law I wonder?

OP you would be better off freezing you pension in Teachers Pension Scheme. It will be increased by inflation each year. In your new job start a new pension. If you decide to go back into teaching at a later date you can add to the pot you have froze.

God I would love to find a job other than teaching. I'm only a year in and spend my life eternally stressed. So jealous of people who just switch off once they clock out. I have little time for hobbies. I spend all my time planning.😯

I don’t know anyone who works 9-5 and doesn’t work late or early or on weekends and on hols.
Good luck with finding a 9-5 job.

Is it law I wonder

law generally has really long hours!

I don't even get why this is a dilemma...complete no brainer. Teaching is hellish....like you said misbunny rabbit...you do spend all your time planning .
Grannyspecandslippers....ok....not all jobs are 9-5 bit in teaching i was working 8-3.30 doing lessions then about 5pm -11pm planning. You can never switch off.
Im nhs now and can come home to relax. In teaching you cannot ever relax.
Something needs to change. The schools should provide ready made lessons with differentiation options. ..why on earth this isn't in place I will never know. Its almost like they don't want teachers (and students ) to succeed. This is all before student behaviour is considered....sometimes wirh challenging behaviour.
Oh and management do not have your back. Kids misbehaving? YOUR fault as your lesson is poor/ you cannot control the class apparently. Don't get me started on the parents!
Ok the holidays are grand but you bloody need them and if the only thing about a job is the holidays then it is not the right job.
Can you tell i'm scarred by it?!!

Of course yanbu op! At the end of the day, teaching will always be there if you change your mind (I doubt you will though!). Can you take a long break from teaching and still return? If not could you fit in some supply on weeks off? (My NHS job requires 450 hours every 3 years to stay registered, I have no idea if teaching has any requirements like this!).

I really hope it all goes really well for you op I bet all of your colleagues will be asking you to get them a job there

@Grannyspecsandslippers

I don’t know anyone who works 9-5 and doesn’t work late or early or on weekends and on hols. Good luck with finding a 9-5 job.

It's funny you say that because I can't think of anyone I know who works late or at weekends, apart from teachers. I'm not exaggerating either.

@Shesellsseashellsontheseashore
"This is what puts me off, thinking about childcare. In my head I'll make the move when the kids are in high school and won't need me as much in the school hols.
Also curious about pension."
So your in teaching just for childcare reasons?
What happened to shaping young minds

I did this last year though the job was closely linked to education. I loved my new team and the headspace was great just walking out at 5, but it was so boring, it was for a big corporate company and I struggled with the ethics so I’m back teaching. Worked for others though so worth a try.

You'll be fine OP, plenty of people make it work. It will take more planning I expect, and if you have a DH he will have to also plan his leave so you share holidays more, whereas obviously before he didn't have to. It does depend who you work with as to how 'easy' school holidays are to get off, I am lucky that no one else wants them hah, except for in the summer of course, so I only tend to take a week then.

Yes I'm sure all will be fine...From what I can see there's nothing I haven't thought of as such. I have some family help and dh is there too @Floralbean dh's work has set time on and off (not teaching) so unfortunately he cannot book time off specifically but he is technically off for 6months of the year. So it's workable.

Working in civil service I find it strange reading all the comments about childcare as I have way more flexibility than my friends and sister who are all teachers. Can start/finish any time I want so no worrying about dropping kids off somewhere then getting to my own job on time, accrue TOIL with every minute past 7:24 I do so easily have back up days if needed, can WFH if kids are sick or need to finish early for plays/sports day etc rather than having a whole day off, can take leave whenever I want to so don't have to try and squeeze all doctor, dentist appointments into one week in October or something.

Plus while teachers get slightly more days off, when you add up annual leave, TOIL, the ability to buy/sell extra days, having all bank holidays off as extra rather than subsumed into the christmas/easter holidays I worked out it was only about five days more, and this was more than worth it for me for the ability to take them whenever I want!

I have worked in the private sector so do understand how hard it can be. Just a good reminder of the advantages of public sector (compared against complete lack of any pay rise, ever!)

This is really ignorant but is "the civil service" working in london? I remember looking at a grad scheme a billion years ago and it was london based then.

I have googled civil service jobs and my area and dont come up with anything.

Im curious as people say they're great employers. I have a great degree etc but Im not entirely sure what eveyone on here does...