To think you surely can't be that desperate for a holiday?!

[Danni290]

I'm pretty annoyed, taking work out of the equation these people in particular were very scared about the virus, one was refusing to come to work at one point and wears a mask all day around the office and now wants to fly abroad?

AIBU to think if you're scared to come to work you shouldn't be flying abroad on holiday?

And just in general, going on holiday right now is totally unnecessary - can't people just wait until there's more clarity on the covid situation and they're not having to self isolate (yes it's unpaid but still a disruption to workforce)

I love holidays but I just don't understand why people need to do it right now?

Because they are stupid selfish twats.

I agree!

😂 I'm glad you said that because honestly I started feeling like I'm being harsh.

I mean, I just did it more annoying that the people I'm talking about have been the most vocal and awkward about the whole virus situation then have the cheek to go on holiday after refusing to come to work

Totally agree. The minute the campsites opened in our town, they were all fully booked, nonsocial distancing and now the numbers are rising again.

Because they looked at various evidence and decided on balance going on holiday would be good for mental wellbeing and were willing to take the risk of needing to quarantine?

But if you’re too scared to go to work, whilst being happy to go on holiday, that’s just a bit CF behaviour.

No social distancing that should say.

Also posted too soon. If people are scared to go to work then surely they're scared to go anywhere else too, let alone on holiday abroad!

Exactly. Admittedly they were scared in the last few months not currently - but they are still putting their work desks in awkward position a and wearing masks all day everyday and I just find it strange of all people they are the ones wants to go away.

I just think people like to moan at their employers for anything but can go against the grain when it suits them.

Holidays are important to lots of people, it’s not a bad thing and if travel is permitted then why not? If they’re the sort of people that are wearing masks in the office then they’ll comply while travelling.

Sounds like someone in particular is just being a pain in the arse at your work though.

Because people are happy to avoid doing things they don’t want to do but don’t want to give up things they do want to do. People are selfish.

I don’t understand how anyone can feel safe on an aeroplane at the moment, they’re flying Petrie dishes at the best of times! But I know we all have different attitudes so fine. But it’s nonsensical to be paranoid about being in an office with the same group of people all the time but be happy to fly abroad on a plane full of strangers.

Hmm, I think going on holiday abroad is a pretty odd thing to do right now to be honest. What if you get stuck out there?!

A UK holiday doesn't necessarily carry any real risk though. We've been away to a caravan for example - we took some food with us (although did buy ice creams and chips from open air takeaway vendors and ate al fresco) and did exclusively outdoor activities like beach trips, long walks etc. It was a much needed break for us all and a chance to see the sea, which isn't possible in a daytrip.

So really, it does depend what kind of a holiday and whether these people have just... changed their mind about the level of risk? Also, going away might seem a worthwhile risk (mental health, helping economy or whatever) while shifting their desk back into its old spot may have no discernible benefits and some small but present risks

Agree! There is one in my office still refusing to come in (even though we've been open all through lockdown) but she went abroad for 2 weeks then told us how she has had to isolate for 2 weeks.

If you are willing to accept quarantine then reasonable to go on holiday, providing your behaviour elsewhere is consistent. You are probably at lower risk in some countries.

As for coming to work, I think that if the job can be wfh, it should still be done, with only occasional visits to an office. The person HermioneGranger20 describes is not typical I hope, possibly avoiding the office as an excuse that covers something else (not getting on with colleagues, hating the journey to/from work, or child care).

I'd happily go on holiday, I'm hoping to go soon. I'm back in the office though and not scared of going to work so YANBU in that respect.

Im not sure about your colleague. If they are currently going to extremes in work but want to jet off on holiday then yes that is odd however I can understand why someone that was rightfully cautious right at the beginning may now feel they can go abroad. Also why is staying in this country any safer? You could stay and holiday at home, eat out at a restaurant or go to a pub then be contact traced and have to self isolate for 2 weeks. May countries have lower cases than the U.K and much less crowded. You can eat outside restaurants and cafes and socially distance with ease. I think sensible people will do their own risk assessment rather than absorb the many sensationalised media reports and make a decision right for them. If your happy to stay in the U.K then fine but if others have done their research and want to go away then that is fine also.

it depends why they are frightened of going back to work,
do they have to work in close proximity?
do they have a choice?
do they prefer WFH?