To be pissed off that secondary school are doing next to nothing about Covid?

[MushyMushi]

Despite the huge risk assessment, reassuring letters, promise of bubbles and social distancing, segregated classes, coloured badges, separate entrances and staggered times for year groups, masks in corridors etc...

Absolutely none of this has been enforced.

Small class bubbles have become bubbles of full year groups of 150 pupils. The segregated break areas have been mixing with all year groups with no enforcement by teachers. Masks aren’t being worn. Pupils are entering and leaving school whenever they feel like it.

Not to mention that if one case of Covid hits, the entire year group will be expected to self isolate for 14 days!

AIBU to think this is really poor or is this the reality of secondary schools now? They’ve only been back two days and it’s all gone to shit.

I don't want my child eating outside when it is cold

This kind of comment astounds me. We should risk a second spike to avoid a person eating outdoors?

Adults who need to should be protected. Teenagers should be given back their freedom

Also this is weird to me. My older children consider themselves part of society, they don't want extra freedoms to the detriment of other groups. I don't understand why teens should be especially prioritised.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

They could have easily done remote learning for all ages and it would have been safer for all. Exams could have been done still as more space to spread out in empty schools.

Although it would have led to more complaints about wanting free childcare back...

Didn’t have long to wait for the snide comments about childcare. Teachers might be happy to sit and wfh and teach remotely but vast swathes of people don’t have that option.

Remote learning is crap. Not going to work.

The blended learning plans we had were basically no more than part time school with extra homework as there’s no resource to deliver a proper blended model. This is what our school basically told us. So your kid struggles with something and has to wait for their next day in school to be able to move on - which may not be for another week in some areas. How is that workable?

More workable than the school being completely closed and no ‘proper’ teaching. We tried that, people didn’t like it.

@noblegiraffe

More workable than the school being completely closed and no ‘proper’ teaching. We tried that, people didn’t like it.

Is it that more workable really when your child is sitting Highers in a subject you have no knowledge of and can’t progress for weeks on end? Not in my book. Teachers also seem to have it in their head that the blended approach would be 50/50 in school and not. Our authority was, we would have been lucky - but some authorities are only going to be having senior phase pupils in 4 days every 3 weeks under the blended plans and SD. Absolutely hopeless.

Plus still no guarantee that there wouldn’t still be cases of the virus and the school might end up closing any way. It’s hardly like part time school is guaranteed to go ahead uninterrupted either.

But if schools are set up for remote learning, then they can spring into action quicker if they have to close.

@MadameBlobby

Plus still no guarantee that there wouldn’t still be cases of the virus and the school might end up closing any way. It’s hardly like part time school is guaranteed to go ahead uninterrupted either.

If there were social distancing it is far less likely school would have to.close.

Part time school is the best chance we have hadof getting a decent run this year imo.

What is the point of wearing masks in corridors only to be then stuck in poorly ventilated rooms for hours on end!

YANU
It is simply not possible to effectively educate and follow made/up 'guidelines'
Children need education/children cannot SD, so pragmatically those schools that care about your children are educating them and you have to accept that there is no SD.
Be pleased that your children are in school, but if you are paranoid about an infinitesimal risk, home-school them.

Sausage fingers -YABU

Yy to part time.

I must admit, although the primary ages maybe the most mucky, they also seem to be the ones you can control the most?
Dds school seems to have excellent procedures in place.

It's the older dc who are the issues esp older teens.

I work in a school that is set up for remote learning and could do it tomorrow, but we want to teach on classrooms because that is the best education.

Life that's the perfect solution. If your school went into lock down or your area, you can smoothly respond without interrupting their education. Ours couldn't get on line, nor offer any support.
I'm very much looking forward to my dd getting into school tomorrow! She needs to be stimulated, see her friends.
I just wish, we had the comfort of that on line back up, should the shit hit the fan.

My daughter went back in to year 9 today and my son to a separate college. Both say that they and the teachers are finding it confusing, but teachers are reminding the kids of the rules but not punishing genuine confusion though. It's as good as can be expected.

I do think that teachers have been thrown to the wolves though and set up to take the blame for the poor decisions made by this govt. I a, loathe to comment on the DfE because we have friends who work there and they are very good and have tried to influence the direction of travel - but Gav is a bit thick and a lot shit.

I'm expecting to be back home schooling by half term.

Just chill out - the quicker we get it, the quicker we go back to normal

@TheGreatWave

Well we'll have to try it and see what happens.

Maybe the teachers at the two schools my DC are at are liars and / or very good actors but they seemed genuinely happy for the children to be back and determined for it to work. The primary school has already made a tweak after the first day today. We will just have to see how it pans out from here.

There's a difference between being determined to make it work and it actually working. There's more to it than a 'can-do' attitude. Your post is patronising. We're all doing our best.

@user1471500037 does this include medically vulnerable pupils and teachers?

lifeafter50 do you work in a private school? My key stage 2 child was provided with a 4 page handout and that was it.

Oh they did send some websites like bbc and they did say they would have online but they never did.

@user1471500037

Just chill out - the quicker we get it, the quicker we go back to normal

Darwin award

@BlowingmyJets

Life that's the perfect solution. If your school went into lock down or your area, you can smoothly respond without interrupting their education. Ours couldn't get on line, nor offer any support. I'm very much looking forward to my dd getting into school tomorrow! She needs to be stimulated, see her friends. I just wish, we had the comfort of that on line back up, should the shit hit the fan.

I believe @Lifeafter50 works in a private school most of us teach in the real world.

Excuse my absent full stop

Also Scotlands R rate is believed to be around 1.4 3 weeks after schools opening.

As much as NS would want to blame returning holiday makers I suspect its more to do with schools reopening.

So England is 3 to 4 weeks behind, at R 1+ don't we start to see more measures being introduced.

If you have toothache, need your roots doing or want to visit family I'd be tempted to get it done ASAP. And to add to the school issue, universities are restarting in 2 weeks. I'm starting a degree, the chatter on the SM groups is allllll about freshers.

To all,of those people who want teenagers to have their freedom, don't want any restrictions, don't want kids to make any adjustments to their lives at all, do you think that teachers and other adults in a school (and, indeed society) are not important? That their mental and physical health don't matter?

My two, their cousins, friends and the children and young people in my community put you all to shame with their empathy, kindness, concern and willingness to put up with this lifestyle for a little bit longer.

I'm assuming most of you are U4T bots. Maybe you should ask your children what they really think before frothing on here. And no, I'm not a teacher. My husband is not a teacher.

@BlowingmyJets

What is the point of wearing masks in corridors only to be then stuck in poorly ventilated rooms for hours on end!

with classroom doors open the whole school is one giant communal area.

@SecretSpAD

To all,of those people who want teenagers to have their freedom, don't want any restrictions, don't want kids to make any adjustments to their lives at all, do you think that teachers and other adults in a school (and, indeed society) are not important? That their mental and physical health don't matter?

My two, their cousins, friends and the children and young people in my community put you all to shame with their empathy, kindness, concern and willingness to put up with this lifestyle for a little bit longer.

I'm assuming most of you are U4T bots. Maybe you should ask your children what they really think before frothing on here. And no, I'm not a teacher. My husband is not a teacher.

Totally agree with this. I'm so sad to think of teens being pushed to think only of themselves instead of to think of everyone.