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Should I join the police?

58 replies

Alonetime · 29/08/2020 14:07

I'm looking at changing career, please help me decide by sharing your experience of working in the police and/or asking me the kinds of questions I should be asking myself.

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NigellaAwesome · 29/08/2020 16:12

As someone with almost 3 decades of service and quite senior, I wouldn't recommend it. Quite apart from what you deal with involving the public, and the drain of shift work, internally it is still sexist, and in my experience, corrupt.

If there is anything else at all you could contemplate, then I would do that.

LateNightTalk · 29/08/2020 16:16

It depends what you want out of it, maybe try the specials to get a taste for it? It also helps when it comes to recruitment

ShinyMe · 29/08/2020 16:20

I don't think you can just 'join' the police. There's a really tough recruitment process. A colleague of mine has a law degree and a Masters in Criminal Justice specialising in Human Trafficking, is superfit and under 30 and has several years experience as a special constable, but still couldn't get in. She tried for years, getting slightly closer each time, but never made it. She gave up when she hit early 30s and is working in admin instead.

ShinyMe · 29/08/2020 16:23

Also, each force is slightly different, so it's worth looking at your local force/forces and seeing what their process is and what the entry requirements are. Some forces only take on new recruits once a year.

Foreverlexicon · 29/08/2020 16:30

My experience is very different to most of what has been posted on here.

I am on the frontline. My team is extremely supportive, never ever go single crewed go anything apart from jobs with no risk (I.e just seeing someone to take a statement. I have had some time off this summer struggling with MH and they couldn’t of been more supportive. They really encourage promotion and transfers to other departments.

My words of advice don’t do it if you have anything less than a burning desire to do it. I worked in the control room prior to joining so had very healthy expectations but the job comes with a lot of crap; rubbish jobs, procedures put in from above that have no relevance to actual policing, long scene watches in the cold, it’s not unusual to finish a couple of hours late at least once a set etc etc. It’s hard and I have been in floods of tears on more than one occasion wondering if I will ever feel competent but I knew I would bitterly regret it if I never did it and to me, it’s worth it.

I love the banter, the comradeship, never knowing what’s coming next and that odd job where you really do make a difference will then fuel you on for the next few weeks.
The shifts are tough but you get used to it and there are certainly pros!

Alonetime · 29/08/2020 19:25

Thank you all. My background is in teaching, I recognise so much that has been said about the physical and emotional strain of the job, with odd moments that make it all worthwhile.

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MintyCedric · 29/08/2020 19:41

@Alonetime

Thank you all. My background is in teaching, I recognise so much that has been said about the physical and emotional strain of the job, with odd moments that make it all worthwhile.
I work in a school too.

Ironically we have several member software staff that used to be police officers/detectives!

PicsInRed · 29/08/2020 20:05

Like anything, if you're quite idealistic it'll be soul destroying. I say that as someone who could tell the cops I've dealt with wanted to help (DV)...but their hands were tied. I couldn't do that job.

IfIHadAHeart · 29/08/2020 20:08

Serving police officer. I absolutely love my job! Feel free to PM me with any questions.

Farlow · 29/08/2020 20:10

As an ex police officer I would also say no. You are witness to some of the most horrific situations you can think of. By the time I quit I needed therapy. There are some things that never leave you. I can’t even tell my dh some of the stuff because it’s things nobody needs to have in their head.

celticmissey · 29/08/2020 20:11

Just finished a 25 year in the police mostly as a detective working in various units. Be prepared to work on much later than the end of your shift if someone is arrested and you need to interview them and process them in custody. Hard to make plans on the days you're working as you csnt guarantee you'll finish on time.

Working nights is hard especially as you get older.I struggled from the age of 32- felt permanently knackered. Difficult sometimes to have a social life especially if your friends work dsy jobs and you only have one weekend where you could go out with them.

Paperwork and file work is crazy- imagine a lot of it and then double it! My experience of the criminal justice system is that it's not fit for purpose and very slow.

You need to keep fit as you have a fitness test and bleep test to pass every year. No allowance is made for the older you get and they have changed the pension so its not that good any more.

If you want to serve maybe look at a social worker or youth worker. Probation Officer may be worth a look - more normal hours but masses of report writing.

Sorry I've not sold the role of a police officer. There's a shortage of detectives as no uniformed officers want to apply.

plominoagain · 29/08/2020 20:36

I’ve been a met officer for 26 years . I’ve learned that no matter what I do , my action are likely to be both too much and oppressive , or not enough and not fit for purpose . I’ve learned the roles of teacher , social worker ( particularly after 3pm on most days and definitely on a Friday ) , nurse , counsellor , medic , road sweeper , and public speaker . I’ve learned patience , assertiveness , a mean set of first aid and self defence skills , and gained a very , VERY thick skin . I’ve been spat at , shot at , stabbed twice with a needle ( different occasions ) and kicked in the head by someone who sliced my skull open with the buckle from her shoe , which was covered in someone else’s blood , which meant a LOT of blood tests , emergency inoculations and an anxious 3 month wait for results. I book my annual leave for my two week holiday at least 18 months in advance and even then there’s no guarantee I’ll get it. Other leave has to be an absolute dire emergency if booked less than 6 weeks in advance . I’ve worked through the last 14 Christmases , and the last 13 New Years . My family know to tell me about family occasions up to 6 months ahead , and even then not to expect me . I regularly work 72 - 80 hour weeks , and then find my picture on social media because I’ve been seen daring to get a sandwich and a coffee at the local BP because we no longer have canteens , and we eat on the hoof , usually whilst filling in yet more paperwork on a tablet in an area with sod all 4g signal .

And yet and yet . I LOVE the actual nuts and bolts of policing . I still , even after 26 years of response policing , love helping people . That look of relief on people’s faces when we arrive at an incident and make a difference . When we find a lost child , or NPAS guides us through open space in the dark in freezing temperatures and locate someone with dementia. When our CPR has worked , and we manage to keep someone alive . When we help domestic violence victims become safe , when we catch violent robbers , or work as a team , put in a containment and catch 3 burglars as we did this week , bang to rights. It can be a boring , tedious , thankless , frightening job . It can also be exhilarating, satisfying , hilarious although sometimes unintentionally , and I still believe it’s one of the best jobs in the world , if you can take the strain .

Why not apply ? If you get in , happy day . For a lot of people it’s no longer a 30 year career . If you find it’s not for you , at least you’ve tried . But if you don’t , you’ll never know .

MintyCedric · 29/08/2020 20:55

OP...hope you don't mind me hijacking your thread somewhat but, could any of the police officers on here tell me anything about the role of Crime Investigator, which is what I'm hoping to go for once applications open?

EdersonsSmileyTattoo · 29/08/2020 20:58

A close female family member has been in the force (NW England) for over twenty years, she recently told me that she wouldn’t join up now for all the money in the world, due to how the job has changed, effects on her personal/family life (she’s on her fourth marriage) etc.

She retires in years and can’t wait.

kierenthecommunity · 29/08/2020 21:15

The getting divorced thing isn’t just down to being in the police though. I had just got married when I joined 14+ years ago. Still with that husband.

Admittedly if you’re in the market for an affair, there’s bags of opportunity, especially if your OH works regular office hours, and you cop off (SWIDT? 😉) with someone on your shift pattern.

IfIHadAHeart · 29/08/2020 21:32

I must say there are a lot of failed marriages amongst my colleagues...I think it’s the shift work mostly but affairs are very very common.

MintyCedric · 29/08/2020 22:09

SWIDT?

user1471505494 · 29/08/2020 22:21

No No No. speaking as the wife of a retired police officer and mother of an ex police officer. Dreadful working hours. They expect everything from their officers and provide nothing in the way of support

TheIckabog · 29/08/2020 22:28

I wouldn’t. I’m 12 years in and thinking of leaving. It’s an absolute shit show. You can’t do wrong for doing right frankly. I too joined with noble thoughts of helping people, doing right, making a social difference etc etc but I do wonder how much of an impact I’ve actually made.

You’re overworked, underpaid, under appreciated by the public and management, you’re body goes to shit, relationships go to shit. I could go on. I’m only 33 but I’m completely worn down by it all now and I’m not the same person I was when I joined. I was a fresh-faced enthusiastic youth determined to make a difference but now I generally consider myself to be an emotionally detached and haggard old hag!

Not to put you off or anything! Grin

kierenthecommunity · 29/08/2020 22:33

SWIDT

See what I did there 😉

TheIckabog · 29/08/2020 22:34

I think you only have to look at the tragic case of PC Andrew Harper to really think if policing is the sort of job that you want to do

Gin4thewin · 29/08/2020 22:40

Another ex officer with a No vote.

But if its something you really want to know more about, either volunteer as a special or change jobs and look at working in the control room for at least a year. Both will give you a real insight before you make that jump

KarlKennedysDurianFruit · 29/08/2020 22:54

OP. given your motivations and background have you considered probation, youth offending team or social work?

ImsotiredImsotired · 29/08/2020 23:07

Ex officer as well and often think of rejoining but then I remind myself how bad it had got. I ended up desperate to leave due to lack of support, sexism, the list goes on and on. But the actual job - I loved it 🙁 the highs are massive and the lows are serious.

Shizzlestix · 29/08/2020 23:08

I wouldn’t. I’m 12 years in and thinking of leaving. It’s an absolute shit show. You can’t do wrong for doing right frankly. I too joined with noble thoughts of helping people, doing right, making a social difference etc etc but I do wonder how much of an impact I’ve actually made.

I think that pretty much encapsulates it.