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To wonder what sort of person abuses the animals at slaughterhouses?

22 replies

Mummypig2020 · 27/08/2020 22:17

I saw a news article a couple of days ago about a local red tractor farm who had awful conditions and the staff were treating the pigs disgustingly. Attacking them and hurting them. The pigs ended up eating each other etc.

The video really made me open my eyes and Iv decided to cut meat out of my life.

I watched a video today on YouTube called hope and glory earthling video ( I tbink..) and it’s showed horrific abuse being caused. Pigs getting their head smashed in, thrown against walls etc.

What kind of people do this?! How can they even be normal enough to live in society. If we saw someone doing that to a dog they would be charged.

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NoProblem123 · 27/08/2020 22:20

All slaughterhouses should have cctv covering every angle inside and outside. No exceptions.

Honeyroar · 27/08/2020 22:23

I’ve seen lots of videos of things like that at slaughter houses over the years. I think that you have to be pretty cold to want to do that kind of job anyway, and the longer you did it the more the animals become objects to them. Bloody hideous though.

Ellamiss · 27/08/2020 22:26

Some psychopaths will justify it, I had to hide the other thread on here that was posted. It was frightening.

Ellamiss · 27/08/2020 22:27

Apparently if they are not pets it doesn’t matter if they are constantly terrified and in pain 🤷🏽‍♀️

Scrowy · 27/08/2020 22:33

I saw a news article a couple of days ago about a local red tractor farm who had awful conditions and the staff were treating the pigs disgustingly. Attacking them and hurting them. The pigs ended up eating each other etc.

The reason this is news is because of just how unusual and horrific it is.

The video really made me open my eyes and Iv decided to cut meat out of my life

you are free to make that choice, I don't each much pork either and I'm very careful where I buy it from.

I watched a video today on YouTube called hope and glory earthling video ( I tbink..) and it’s showed horrific abuse being caused. Pigs getting their head smashed in, thrown against walls etc again, not the norm. Very heavily edited and biased video showing the extremes of poor practice.

What kind of people do this?! How can they even be normal enough to live in society. If we saw someone doing that to a dog they would be charged.

they will be charged. I ask the same question when I hear about abuses of children and elderly people. The scum of society like to pick on those more vulnerable than themselves. It's not a meat eater thing it's a sick twisted person thing.

Nottherealslimshady · 27/08/2020 22:39

The type of person that wants that job in the first place. Evil bastards.

Ellamiss · 27/08/2020 22:44

It’s really not unusual. That’s the most frustrating thing about it.

Itsjustabitofbanter · 27/08/2020 22:48

The majority of people getting jobs in slaughter houses obviously don’t really care for animals. And they’re quickly desensitised to what’s happening to them.

Tr1skel1on · 27/08/2020 22:50

It's really not that unusual. Any meat eaters kidding themselves that their dinner is different is deluded.

I think the saying is if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian.

The whole coronavirus pandemic is caused by people eating animals. It's disgusting.

Tr1skel1on · 27/08/2020 22:56

What is really disgusting is the fact that people are forced into working awful jobs in slaughterhouses for minimal pay to help satisfy the demand for cheap meat in cheap junk food takeaways.

The entire business, that's what it is, is grim.

If you order cheap chicken or pork dishes from your local takeaway or buy them in the supermarket you are providing the market for the meat the op described.

Think about it

GenevaL · 27/08/2020 23:26

My flat mate at uni was studying environmental health which includes abattoir inspection. It’s simply not true that suffering is really rare. We like to think that, and pretend that ‘suffering’ needs to be an animal smashed against a wall. The places stink of blood and death, the animals are frightened as they are led in, force is used to grab them and they can see and hear what’s happening. I haven’t touched meat since he showed me a training video from his course. Genuinely, I think you’d need to be unhinged to witness what I did and still feel okay eating the end product.

rosiejaune · 27/08/2020 23:37

What sort of person pays for living beings to be murdered when they could eat plants instead?

None of them want to be sexually assaulted, separated from their families, or die, to satisfy someone's taste buds for 5 mins. That is already abuse, regardless of the exact details of their treatment.

And YABU if you think the same doesn't apply to all animal products; dairy cows and chickens go through the same process.

Leaannb · 28/08/2020 00:12

@rosiejaune

What sort of person pays for living beings to be murdered when they could eat plants instead?

None of them want to be sexually assaulted, separated from their families, or die, to satisfy someone's taste buds for 5 mins. That is already abuse, regardless of the exact details of their treatment.

And YABU if you think the same doesn't apply to all animal products; dairy cows and chickens go through the same process.

I kill my own animals most of the time. Everything but beef and I usually help
TheHappyHerbivore · 28/08/2020 07:57

Good on you for cutting out meat, OP. So many people will read this story, feel a shudder of discomfort, then push that down and simply not think about it because they like the taste of meat more than they care about animals. You’ve done a really positive thing, and I hope lots of people think like you!

Beefcurtains79 · 28/08/2020 08:04

I thought Michael Gove made it law for slaughterhouses to have cctv when he was environment secretary?

TheHappyHerbivore · 28/08/2020 08:56

@Beefcurtains79 it is now mandatory. Would be interesting to know if all U.K. slaughterhouses are now in compliance with that.

unicornpower · 28/08/2020 09:17

I saw the story you read too and honestly it was awful. The poor pigs. I had felt conflicted for a long time about eating meat and i refuse point blank to eat lamb (because i hand reared 4 lambs and i can't bring myself to do it) so why was i okay to eat beef and pork? That story pushed me over the edge and I wont eat it now.

I respect a lot of animals are treated well and loved up until the end (I have farmer friends and their animals are treated like royalty) but I can't be okay with killing them. I watched our friends cows playing together and they're so cheeky and full of life it just broke my heart that their lives are cut short. My husband will still eat meat but is eating less of it and i just cook two things now.

PlanDeRaccordement · 28/08/2020 09:21

The whole coronavirus pandemic is caused by people eating animals. It's disgusting.

No it is not. Species transference of a virus is caused by humans and live animals in close proximity. The current Covid is not from eating bats or bat fried rice or any of the other racist claims you have seen.

PlanDeRaccordement · 28/08/2020 09:25

@Scrowy said it well. These are unusual extreme cases many of which were taped in other countries, not the U.K or EU. If you just watched nanny cams of babysitters abusing kids all day, you would not come to the conclusion that all babysitters abuse children, so why come to the conclusion that all slaughterhouse workers abuse animals? It’s irrational.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/08/2020 09:34

'think the saying is if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian.'

Exactly. Meateaters like to say 'oh but it's humane!' frequently, when there is nothing humane about cramming scared animals into lorries, transporting them miles to then queue up, distressed with horrible people pushing and shoving them to get slaughtered. I've no idea why, when there are so many healthy alternatives that people really don't care about the suffering of animals.

All so people can stuff their faces with sausage sandwiches and burgers.

TheHappyHerbivore · 28/08/2020 10:06

so why come to the conclusion that all slaughterhouse workers abuse animals? It’s irrational.

I don’t think OP is concluding that all slaughterhouse workers abuse animals - just that she has seen footage of some who have, and it’s made her rethink her stance on eating meat.

boltzmannbrains · 28/08/2020 10:13

Deliberate physical abuse might be rare but practically all industrial animal slaughter involves horrendous mistreatment.

There’s a huge pig farm in the US where they had to slaughter the entire farm due to COVID. The method of slaughter they used was to seal all the air vents and turn the heat up as high as it would go, literally suffocate/roast the pigs to death. It took at least 12 hours for them to die, and they were screaming in agony the entire time.

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