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AIBU?

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IABU

27 replies

wellhelloyou · 18/08/2020 07:07

I am, totally completely.

Live in Australia. Am an Australian. Lived in Scotland for a long time before moving back here, now nearly four years.

OH loves it here in Australia, has great job. loves it. DD started school, loves it. Finally found a lovely new house (long lease) in a great location. Dog now settled. Loves digging holes.

I Want To Move Back to Scotland NOW. I miss the landscape. The accents. The People. The Banter. There are too many things to list.

Utterly stupid. Can't move anyway due to restrictions. But I Just Want To and Will Never Settle Here Despite Everyone Else Thinking It Is GREAT. So 'Un-Australian' of me.

But really, I cannot get the thought of moving back out of my head. As mentioned, I am Australian but lived in Scotland for just over ten years. What do I do? Nothing I suppose.

IABU unless you tell me so.

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ScrapThatThen · 18/08/2020 08:01

It's great that everyone is settling well, it's ok to miss your old home. Now what do you need or want in your life in Aus? Start focusing on you. How can you replace those scenes you love, how can you mix with people you find entertaining?

Cheesewine · 18/08/2020 08:09

Scotland's the best ... Come home. If it makes you feel any better it's been raining and flooding here for 2 weeks now and still raining. Maybe come back for a visit and see how you feel.

BackwardsGoing · 18/08/2020 08:16

Midgies
The shit weather
The unhealthy food
The alcoholism
The tedious football obsession and petty rivalry
The never ending independence debate
Fat men wearing kilts
The inhumanity of bagpipes
Midgies

Does that help?

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 18/08/2020 08:20

I feel your pain and I only live in England Flowers for you OP

Skyliner001 · 18/08/2020 08:22

Sorry you don't like it. I would never chose to live in Australia so not surprised. Maybe you can come back eventually 😊

YeahWhatevver · 18/08/2020 08:25

@BackwardsGoing

Midgies The shit weather The unhealthy food The alcoholism The tedious football obsession and petty rivalry The never ending independence debate Fat men wearing kilts The inhumanity of bagpipes Midgies

Does that help?

Brexit COVID recession Constant treading water while the SNP bang the independence drum

The grass isn't greener, take off your rose tinted glasses!

LioneIRichTea · 18/08/2020 08:29

Midgies

Knowing some of the crawly nightmares that live in Australia and the sharp pointy teeth that habit the sea, I’d say midgies wouldn’t be an issue Grin

FredaFrogspawn · 18/08/2020 08:32

YABU for starting a thread with the title AIBU!!

Seriously - give it a bit longer. I think you may have rose tinted glasses on though I agree Scotland can be very special.

IlovecatsyesIdo · 18/08/2020 08:40

YANBU

Whilst Australia looks in some ways like a dream paradise your feelings should not be swept under the carpet. I personally could not stand the heat or the creepy crawlies, but I know that is simplifying things. Scotland was obviously a special place for you and felt like home.

Is it totally out of the question for you to discuss how you feel with OH? Surely your OH would want you to be happy too? If DD is around 4 I’m sure she would adjust at such a young age to moving. But of course it would not be a simple decision to make.
I don’t think it is realistic to stay feeling this way and to not at least discuss it with your OH. Doing nothing is not an option.
Good luck.

KarmaStar · 18/08/2020 10:26

You've been home four years and still miss it,that's quite a long time,too long to pass it off without trying to understand why you feel that attachment.
Is there any underlying problems at home that you are subconsciously avoiding by thinking of somewhere you are happier?or is it a genuine love for a place you absolutely want to remain living in regardless of the cost?
(One other thought I might get flamed for but hey ho😀)you might have been Scottish in a previous life and so the pull you have is a connection with your past.I've read of people visiting a location on holiday and knowing things about it they should not have known,and feeling an intense connection.They have been regressed later and found they had several lives there).
What led you to move there 14 years ago op?
Have you told your dh how you feel?
Perhaps next year travel back for a holiday ?

wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 06:43

Thank you for your views, I appreciate hearing both sides!

@KarmaStar it's not as odd as you think! Although I don't expressly have the same views, there has to be a reason why I feel so at home there as opposed to my own country. I can't say what first led me there. I first visited a long time ago and (literally) within ten minutes, I knew I was going to move there. I did and as I say, spent over ten years there. It just feels 'right', I cannot put it into words. I loved all things Scottish growing up, despite not having one single link to the place. It's like it calls me. No idea why! My heart says go and my head says stay. Head purely with a financial hat on and a 'don't uproot' the family again point of view. I can't travel back, we can't anyway in the pandemic, but if we could, it would cost too much for a holiday for all of us and then take years to save again if we moved back.

@IlovecatsyesIdo I live in a place that doesn't get the really hot temps, more top of under 30, even in the height of summer. Creepie crawlies I don't love, but they're not crawling all over your house and even in your mind/view every day so they don't bother me. I used to get bigger house spiders in my house in Scotland every September! I have discussed it with my OH. At first he was just very angry - why did we even bother (it was hugely expensive to move here). I understood, completely. He sort of came around to the idea but we never took the next step. Pandemic put a stop to everything and as the days go by, he and our child are getting more happy and settled so I just feel the idea is slipping away with every month that goes by.

@FredaFrogspawn I didn't start the post with AIBU? How much longer should I give it do you think? I think near the four year mark is enough to know if you like something and have given it a good go, but maybe not.

@LioneIRichTea ha ha yes! Good point. Although I have experienced midges before when camping and oh my Queen Anne Bed they are horrendous!! Easily drive you to insanity.

@BackwardsGoing and @YeahWhatevver good points. It's easy to just see the good and forget about the 'bad'. I have to say, as I lived there for ten years I know all about the things you're speaking of and it didn't really affect my life too much at the time. Fat men wearing kilts probably did though in some negative subconscious way Grin. Have you seen how much Aussies drink? And take recreational drugs?

@ScrapThatThen very good advice. The weird thing is that I live in a place that everyone thinks looks like Scotland. It's stunningly beautiful. I absolutely agree, but it just "feels" different.

@Cheesewine thanks :-) was sorry to read of the rain and flooding. We've had quite a bit of it here of late also, cars right underwater. All I can say, is hopefully good for the farmers! Rainwater tanks will be full.

@NoMoreReluctantCustodians thank you, here's a bunch back Flowers

@Skyliner001 thanks

Ahh if only this wasn't so hard. Wages are better here. More sunshine and, where we live, not too hot in the height of summer. Beautiful location to live in. Jobs. Have, luckily, only experienced nice welcoming people. OH and DS happy and thriving. Reacquainting with lovely old friends. What's not to like! I wish I could figure out why I can't be happy here.

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IndecisiveMama · 19/08/2020 07:05

It's special choosing to be an expat. You feel different and have written your own story. Then going home (however joyful and successful) feels like giving up and the flaws of your homeland are all too striking. We lived in Bermuda and Cayman for 20 years and have just returned to the U.K. our lifestyle here is good and my family loves it but I yearn for Cayman. It's the luxury of choice that messes with our heads. I go for a run and list 13 reasons I love my current situation to try to reframe it.
Be kind to yourself and accept today's Australian plan for now! Allow yourself to imagine retiring elsewhere ... you are not being unreasonable. It's amazingly hard to shelve the expat dream.

FinallyHere · 19/08/2020 07:39

My advice would be to avoid undermining your actual life by yearning for someplace else. What is the hole in your life that you are trying to fill with thoughts of far away places ?

Can you shift your mindset to enjoy your here and now ?

Make a choice and stick with it.

JuniperFather · 19/08/2020 08:24

@FredaFrogspawn

YABU for starting a thread with the title AIBU!!

Seriously - give it a bit longer. I think you may have rose tinted glasses on though I agree Scotland can be very special.

This.
wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 08:50

@JuniperFather I'm missing something here, I didn't start a thread with the title AIBU?!

How long would you give it? I know it's hard for non-expats to understand if they've never been in my shoes. Four years is a long time, how long do you need to make a decision on something?

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BaconsLaw · 19/08/2020 09:24

My pipe dream is to live in Scotland, too.

wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 09:25

@BaconsLaw

My pipe dream is to live in Scotland, too.
Where do you live currently @BaconsLaw ? Do you think it will be reality one day?
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BaconsLaw · 19/08/2020 09:40

@wellhelloyou

South West England! I doubt it. We are a close knit family so I don't think I could move that far away from my parents and siblings. And, I've only visited which is obviously very different to moving there, so I think it shall always remain a fantasy.

wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 09:56

[quote BaconsLaw]@wellhelloyou

South West England! I doubt it. We are a close knit family so I don't think I could move that far away from my parents and siblings. And, I've only visited which is obviously very different to moving there, so I think it shall always remain a fantasy.

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Well you can dream! At least it's nice and close for you to visit again one day.

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MaybeMaybeNotJ · 19/08/2020 10:08

I think they misread “IABU”
And I think they mean that most threads have more information about the topic in the title.

Good luck OP I hope you find your happy place :)

Sk1nnyB1tch · 19/08/2020 10:20

Do you have good connections with your family of origin where you are in Australia?
I would love to live in a different part of my own city but traffic is so bad that being near my family and in-laws takes precedence. So I feel kind of understand.
I try to tell myself that I need to create what I would have there where I am.
Somedays that's easier than others.

wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 10:49

@MaybeMaybeNotJ

I think they misread “IABU” And I think they mean that most threads have more information about the topic in the title.

Good luck OP I hope you find your happy place :)

Right got it! Was perplexed for a while there. Makes sense now they misread.

Thank you, I'm taking onboard those who have said they're in similar positions and their coping strategies. I am very grateful for all we have and know how lucky we are to live in such a lovely place and have jobs, good school etc. It's hard to let go of something. Perhaps the trick is not to let go but just be happy where we are in the moment. Thanks all!

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wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 10:51

@Sk1nnyB1tch

Do you have good connections with your family of origin where you are in Australia? I would love to live in a different part of my own city but traffic is so bad that being near my family and in-laws takes precedence. So I feel kind of understand. I try to tell myself that I need to create what I would have there where I am. Somedays that's easier than others.
I don't have a lot of family left (very small family that has diminished). One family member who wasn't close but is becoming nearby, they are five hours drive away however. I wish I had a bigger family and more around me. Has been very hard with no-one really and my daughter always asks where our family is or who they are.
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wellhelloyou · 19/08/2020 10:52

Sorry that should read 'one family member who wasn't close but is becoming close lives 'nearby(ish)'

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Sk1nnyB1tch · 19/08/2020 12:43

I love the Australian idea of 5 hours away being nearish Grin
It's all perspective!
If you don't have family ties keeping you in Oz I would maybe do a five year plan with the intention of moving back to Scotland.
If at the end of the five years you don't want to then fine, you'll have savings and qualifications/time in grade of your careers to help with life in Oz.
If you do still want to your DC will be young enough to take the move in stride.
With a feeling of short termism you might find that you love where you are. If you don't well you only have to put up with it for a few more years.