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Public disorder ticket

43 replies

C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 08:35

Hi will be long bear with me.
Dh went out yesterday with around 10 people to celebrate the birth of one of his friends children. They got a train and went to a restaurant for food and drinks. Afterwards 4 of them including dh decided to go back to friends house to watch the boxing. They bought some alcohol and got on the train back. They made it to the next station and police got onto the train. They confiscated their alcohol. (which was unopened bottles of beer still in packaging in a plastic bag) my dh asked why they were doing this as it wasnt being consumed. Police said you couldn't have it on train at all and this went back and forth and my husband responded finally with you are stealing our fucking property. Queue being handcuffed and removed from train and driven to station and handed a public disorder notice. His options were accept it or spend a night in the cells.
Now my dh isn't an angel but never in our 13 years together has he ever been in trouble with the law. He sometimes gets a "I'm right attitude" when he has had a few but never to this extent.
Of course I was cross and tried to rationalise with him over the phone but this ended up with him hanging up on me. He was stuck an hour away so I rang his dad and asked if he could organise his taxi driver friend to collect him which he did. While waiting for taxi he rang and applogised for hanging up and I said let's leave discussing until tomorrow when you aren't tipsy. I said I'll be waiting with money for taxi when he gets home. He then says I'm not coming home straight away I'm still going back to friends house. Now I'll be honest in that I got cross at this. I told him he was ridiculous not coming straight home after this situation and wanting to go and drink more. He said what difference does it make? I said that this is not a normal situation and he needs to come home and go to bed. He said he would think about it and then he hung up. He came in at 1.45am after deciding to go to friends.
So as not to drip feed I do not like these group of 'friends' at all so I am accepting that my views are prejudice anyway but I'll be honest I'm seething about the whole situation this morning. I couldn't sleep, anxiety was up and now I'm stewing this morning while he sleeps it off.
I need to know aibu in feeling this way. How would you react? My better judgement is telling me to try and forget it all, not start anything as we are having a few marital issues as it is and I don't want to make that worse.

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C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 11:15

So the updated version of events
He was at the toilet on train and came back to the police collecting drink from all carriages. They weren't called to their group they were there spot checking to make sure no one had alcohol. He did say your stealing our fucking property so was handcuffed and removed from train. He admits sweating was so stupid. At the same time a man (on train with his wife and children not drinking) also tried to reason with them and his whole family was removed for questioning the police. There is a video of this as my dh friend filmed it.
He fully admits he had drank too much and should not have questioned the police or swore at all.

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Chanjer · 16/08/2020 11:17

Yes he should have questioned police

How can a train operator forbid people taking shopping home on the train?

C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 11:19

Chanjer here in NI there have been various incidents drinking. The no carriage of alcohol is applicable to certain routes. Another poster posted the link and I checked myself. Apparently with the good weather that route and place were subject to a lot of disorderly behaviour yesterday and were on full alert

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Chanjer · 16/08/2020 11:21

That's a fucking ridiculous condition of carriage though!

A 4 pack in your shopping is a prohibited item? Madness, how do people who use public transport get their "illicit" booze home?

Fallsballs · 16/08/2020 11:26

He sounds like a pissed twatty ‘lad’ and you sound like my mum.

C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 11:28

Thanks Fallsballs extremely helpful advice. He isn't a 'lad' and never has been. Not even sure on the mum comment tbf but OK fill your boots

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Fallsballs · 16/08/2020 11:31

I admit it wasn’t helpful but giving the police cheek and getting arrested wasn’t exactly non lad behaviour and your reaction reminded me of my mother “get home at once child” type thing.

C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 11:37

OK I can understand how this one time it may seem that way but you don't know him or me. Also I would think that to most people if you are removed from a situation by police and handed a public disorder penalty your thoughts wouldn't be how to continue on a night with more alcohol. A grown up reaction would be OK I fucked up and need to get home and get to sleep and deal with this in the morning. I'm not someone who sits and say aw well fuck it it doesnt affect me. It does, hes my husband he got himself into shit and called me so actively involved me. My advice and common sense dictated that he should come home. He as a grown adult can decide whether to take my advice or not which he didn't. And that's fine. But it doesn't stop me bring pissed off. If I was him I'd be embarrassed as hell which today he does seem to be. If that's me being a Mum ill fully accept it

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Reallybadidea · 16/08/2020 11:46

Leaving aside the lack of social distancing, men like your dh who get pissed and are loud and lairy on trains are an absolute pain in the arse. I wish the police would do more to stop this annoying, disruptive antisocial behaviour.

jimmyjammy001 · 16/08/2020 12:25

I'm willing to bet your husbands version of events which he has told you is alot different to the police officers / what actually happened.

C1u4toff · 16/08/2020 13:05

Jimmy jammy it's all on mobile video. There's no excuse for dh to swear at all. And if he had just accepted them taking the alcohol then none of this would have happened. But what he says happened did in fact happen

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differentnameforthis · 16/08/2020 13:55

I do not believe, for one single minute that they were NOT drinking on the train.

He isn't very nice, is he? What are the "marital issues" you are having?

FrenchItalian · 16/08/2020 14:00

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isabellerossignol · 16/08/2020 14:02

I do not believe, for one single minute that they were NOT drinking on the train.

Why not?

Newbameforanewdecade · 16/08/2020 14:08

To be honest - if it happened in exactly the way you said I do think you were being a tad unreasonable in trying to arrange him to come home etc.
It happened - it sounds like he was a bit of an idiot swearing at the police, but why this should mean he has to be provided a taxi and come home (and divert from his original plan) I’m not sure.

piscean10 · 16/08/2020 14:17

Well think about it for a second. After this ordeal he chose to go and carry on drinking with his friends rather than be unsettled and upset. You really think he is innocent here. More likely he was a mouthy drunk on the train causing a nuisance.

isabellerossignol · 16/08/2020 14:19

I don't think he's innocent of being a mouthy drunk. It's pretty clear that he was. But I think it's perfectly possible that he wasn't actually drinking alcohol on the train, just was already drunk when he got on there.

Immigrantsong · 16/08/2020 14:27

@Reallybadidea

Leaving aside the lack of social distancing, men like your dh who get pissed and are loud and lairy on trains are an absolute pain in the arse. I wish the police would do more to stop this annoying, disruptive antisocial behaviour.
I completely agree.
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