To not let ex take DS to Ireland?

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My ex wants to take DS(3) to Ireland to stay with his parents for a few days- I agreed thinking that there would be no need to quarantine on return to U.K. but have now since realised that there is a requirement to isolate in Ireland for 14 days on arrival. They would only be staying at his parents house which is large and has a huge garden, and wouldn’t be going anywhere else but would they be allowed to even stay for 4 days and then leave the country again back to U.K.? I’m concerned they’ll be stuck over there. DS due to start preschool first week of September and don’t want him to miss it, as well as the thought of being without him for 2 weeks makes me an anxious mess. Ex and his family are very much the rules don’t apply to us kind of people so will get no help from them. Should I say no?

That is fine OP. They will have to restrict their movements when they arrive, but you have said that is the plan anyway. There is no requirement to stay for the full 14 days.

Please don't let them come her. You are supposed to self isolate for 14 days... which they are not planning on doing. It is getting bad enough over here and yes that is selfish as I want my kids to go back to school. 200 new confirmed cases today. I say the same to my family coming from london. It is a global pandemic.... all advice is essential travel which is why we didn't go on our holiday to Italy 🙁

www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

Restricted movement means not going to their family home and seeing them. So what are they coming here for????

We certainly are experiencing an increase in levels. Due mainly to movement to our County by holiday makers over the last couple of weeks. You won't be stopped going back to UK if we are locked down but you might find UK puts you on quarantine when you get back if it gets any worse. Common travel area has nothing to do with it.
Limerick and Clare are approaching a critical phase and the volume of Dublin cars in the County this week doesn't bode well. The big teen party in Killee is the centre of two known clusters already.

The risk is minimal if he stays on the farm

We are currently in lockdown where I am in Ireland. 200 cases today..Massive spike! They're talking about more counties going into lockdown too. For me I wouldn't allow it

No do not go. There are restrictions and people are sticking to them.
Of course its not about being on a farm he will fly or get on a boat.

Why do you think the rules don't apply to You?

They are allowed to arrive, and leave before the 14 days are up. As long as they spend their whole time in Ireland isolating at the address they give on arrival in Dublin Airport.

"If your return flight will leave before the 14 day restricted movement ends:
Public health advice for people arriving into the State from overseas is to restrict your movements for 14 days.

You do not need to remain in the country for 14 days. But you should follow this public health advice for the time that you will be in Ireland.

www.gov.ie/en/publication/e885b2-covid-19-coronavirus-travel-advice/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.ie%2Flocatorform%2F

It would obviously be better not to travel, but it's not against guidelines.

The advice is essential travel only. Is it essential?

Italy is on Ireland's green list @Newtothis2017so you just made a choice for your family not to go. OP and other families will choose differently, especially when it involves seeing close family, absolutely essential in my view. It is actually OP's ex who is determined to go, not her. The cases exploding in Ireland seem to have very little to do with international travel. There are very very few confirmed cases of clusters linked to airplanes and ferries if you research it and cases in many areas in the UK are low,now lower than many locked down parts of Ireland.

IrishMamaMia absolutely italy is on the green list. That means we don't have to restrict our movements when we return. However, the government are still asking people to avoid all but essential travel. And yes, everyone gets to make their own decision on that.

OP... Does your ex really understand what isolate means? They won't be able to meet and interact with his parents.... So what's the use of going?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-cases-in-co-kildare-running-at-almost-eight-times-national-average-1.4326447%3fmode=amp

This is the source I was referring to by the way, which would suggest that both Clare and Limerick are counties to watch for future lockdowns.

However, that’s from Monday and a lot may have changed since then.

And the incidences are still low compared to the countries that were actually locked down.

I’m also not sure that local lockdowns are the answer as after yesterday’s scary stats, it’s clear figures are rising everywhere.