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AIBU to ask for any COVID quarantine travel advice?!

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ohisntthisallfun · 14/08/2020 15:50

My family and I have been in Italy for a few days but have a villa booked for a week in France from tomorrow with other family members who are already holidaying in France.

If we were to buy all our food for the week in Italy and not have any contact with anyone in France (other than our family who would also not have any contact outside the villa for the week), would this exempt us from having to quarantine on return to the UK? Or at least count as a week against our 2 week quarantine?

Would then travel (straight) to Germany for a few days before heading to the Eurotunnel (Calais) to head home,
again without coming into contact with anyone in France. Would it BU to think this would mean we would pose no incremental risk on return? Can we run down the rest of our quarantine time in Germany or would the 2 weeks start from re-entry into France for the Eurotunnel back home? What if we literally don't come into contact with anyone in France other than our family??
I can't reach anyone at the Eurotunnel or see anything on the gov.uk site to ask what the regulations are and thought someone here might be able to help Smile
Apologies - this is likely the most boring AIBU thread of all times...

OP posts:
Clymene · 14/08/2020 15:56

No. The quarantine period is 14 days from the moment you set foot on U.K. soil. They don't give a toss what you've been doing before.

Jelly0naplate · 14/08/2020 16:02

And cue 10 000 other people saying they'll start they're quarantine while they're still on holiday and then potentially infecting god knows how many when they return to UK and don't quarantine for the 2 weeks properly. Don't be selfish. You went on holiday during a pandemic knowing the potential for quarantines to be placed on countries at little notice. Do your 2 weeks quarantine.

Dominicgoings · 14/08/2020 16:06

Ffs.

whitepebblecactus · 14/08/2020 16:06

YABU unfortunately you will have to quarantine anyway. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do when you're out there.

TheGlitterFairy · 14/08/2020 16:06

As clymene said - 2 weeks from your return from france.....but buying food etc before you head over is a good plan though in any case.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 14/08/2020 16:37

Not sure what the confusion is, it’s two weeks once back in the UK regardless of how you spent the holiday.

Dominicgoings · 14/08/2020 16:47

‘Not sure what the confusion is, it’s two weeks once back in the UK regardless of how you spent the holiday.’

But if you’re special and the rules don’t apply to you it is SO CONFUSING 😉

FallingIguanas · 14/08/2020 16:47

If you were, for example, just driving through France on your way home and did not stop/get out of your vehicle (e.g. at services or port) you'd be exempt according to what I've just read on the BBC but as you are holidaying in France, no you'll have to quarantine for 14 days from your arrival back in the UK.

Doveyouknow · 14/08/2020 16:50

If you re-enter France following your stay in Germany you will reset the clock on your quarantine - so you will need to do the full 14 days. If you can get back from Germany to the UK without entering France (ferry from Hamburg?) then you can knock the time you spent in Germany off the 14 days. Your quarantine time in France won't make any difference to your quarantine time in the UK unless they change the rules...I am not sure why people are being so rude given the rules are complex and ever changing

cologne4711 · 14/08/2020 17:08

I think some of these posts are a bit mean - no you can't do your quarantine in France but the transit thing is a bit of a question. For example if you are currently in Germany and went by train you are only going to set foot in Belgium when you change trains to get on Eurostar.

If you were, for example, just driving through France on your way home and did not stop/get out of your vehicle (e.g. at services or port) you'd be exempt according to what I've just read on the BBC really? I suppose technically you could get petrol in Germany and not stop for the loo in France or Belgium. But how to prove it?

Sadly there is no ferry from Cuxhaven anymore, I don't think you can get from Germany to the UK by land/sea without going through a quarantine country. Maybe go to Norway from Kiel and then to Scotland :)

welcometohell · 14/08/2020 17:28

Oh come on. Your 14 days quarantine starts when you arrive back in the UK and you know it. Presumably you weighed up the risks before deciding to go on your holiday and decided the possibility of having to quarantine was worth it for the trip away so you'll just have to crack on.

Themostwonderfultimeoftheyear · 14/08/2020 17:38

The quarantine isn't based on how risky your behaviour was, that would be far too complicated to police. If you arrive in the UK from France you need to quarantine for 14 days. You can either cut your holiday short and come straight back from Italy or you can do the quarantine. Your choice.

hellywelly3 · 14/08/2020 17:40

The rules apply to you no matter how you try to bend them! Everyone has been fully made aware of the risks of a holiday abroad you took the risk.

welcometohell · 14/08/2020 17:51

I don't think anyone is being "rude" or "mean". The OP has asked if she's being unreasonable. After all the sacrifices that people have made during lockdown they will understandably be frustrated by attempts to bend, deliberately misunderstand or try to justify not following the quarantine rules. I don't blame people for wanting a holiday but no one has been forced to go abroad during a global pandemic and if they choose to do so they should accept that this was the gamble they took.

Noextremes2017 · 14/08/2020 18:18

Reality is next to nobody is dying or seriously ill with Covid. Infections does NOT equal serious illness or death.

Somebody needs to explain that to that thick dunce that we have running the country.

But until they do OP - regrettably you'll need to quarantine.......

Starbuggy · 14/08/2020 18:28

YABU

The rules are 2 weeks after you return from France. It really isn’t difficult. You are not exempt.

Ellisandra · 14/08/2020 18:31

🍿 here for the replies.

FelicityPike · 14/08/2020 19:05

Wow.Biscuit

ohisntthisallfun · 14/08/2020 22:35

Thanks all. Definitely don't think I'm
special! It just didn't make sense given we will have less exposure than if we were in the UK, hence why I asked, but happy to take it on the chin if those are the rules!
Can't understand the Biscuit though.. Wink

OP posts:
Noextremes2017 · 15/08/2020 07:54

There is no point.

Paranoidmarvin · 15/08/2020 13:00

I can’t even with this. And getting petrol ? Sleeping ? Not going to the loo on ur travels. Getting food while ur driving. Seriously.

quentinquarantinio · 15/08/2020 13:11

There is no logic behind it. The rules are for people arriving from France which does unfortunately include the euro tunnel even if you don't get out of your car.

However it isn't actually policed in the UK. I've been through two quarantines now since the end of (work in an EU country on "the list" and not had so much as a phone call to check I am where I've said I'd be. So I think a lot of transiting people on the eurotunnel won't comply.

Campervan69 · 15/08/2020 13:12

None of the rules make sense. Just don't question your Tory Overlords and do as you're told 😊

Noextremes2017 · 15/08/2020 15:02

It’s not just the Government. It is also those clowns on SAGE who seem unaware of the real world - probably because they are not part of it. The sooner they are locked back up in their Universities / laboratories / mental asylums the better for the rest of us.

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