Still wiping down groceries?

[Cam77]

Just wondered if anyone is still doing this? At the beginning we were told the virus can live on surfaces for X number of days, but as far as I’m aware, the powers that be never elaborated on whether it was a real risk of transmission.

I have elderly parents and am being extra cautious for their sakes. I was about to stop wiping a few weeks ago but then number started going again when I live. I know the risk is super small, but anyway, anyone else still consider this worth doing? Or was the science updated somewhere to say there’s no risk of transmission from groceries/parcels etc?

true though - people are minging. You really dont want to know about some of it but www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/28/faecal-bacteria-found-ice-three-major-uk-chains-caffe-nero-starbucks-costa-coffee

I do and I'm annoying myself with it now.

I still do it and I hate it 😂 but it makes me feel better and I know I've tried my best.

Tbh I think I will always continue to do it, I've never considered, up until now, how many people may touch the things i bring into my house on a regular basis. I'd get an online clothes order and unless it was underwear I wouldnt wash it before wearing it, that may sound gross, but now I do.

I stopped about a month ago. It was both challenging to stop (I felt I could be letting germs into the house) and a huge relief (it took ages and was a total faff).

I got a delivery today and wiped it all down. It's a faff and I was wondering today how much longer I will be doing it for, but with three vulnerable people in my household it seems like a small concession to make in the grand scheme of things.

I'm more relaxed about post and parcels now, mainly because I cannot for the life of me get my family to not immediately handle them

I'd get an online clothes order and unless it was underwear I wouldnt wash it before wearing it, that may sound gross, but now I do

How many things did you catch from the clothing before you washed it?

I hope all you wipers aren't using single use plastic wipes for your hygiene-fest and quest to eradicate the smallest possible risk available.

Or even worse antibacterial wipes.

@SockYarn

I hope all you wipers aren't using single use plastic wipes for your hygiene-fest and quest to eradicate the smallest possible risk available.

Or even worse antibacterial wipes.

Climate change went out the window it seems once Covid was on the horizon. You'd think it went away.

I'd get an online clothes order and unless it was underwear I wouldnt wash it before wearing it, that may sound gross, but now I do

I have never done nor have I ever thought about doing this it's not gross?

I have been wiping my groceries and deliveries yes.

The new outbreak in NZ looks very likely to have come either from surfaces (packaging), or from the food.

edition.cnn.com/2020/08/13/asia/new-zealand-cases-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html

The border is closed, any NZ residents coming in must spend 14 days in quarantine. the cluster of 4 cases in one family, had not travelled anywhere and had no contact with anyone who was positive.

Authorities have used genome sequencing to investigate the source of the outbreak, but have found no link between the community cases and imported cases in New Zealand's managed isolation quarantine facilities, Bloomfield said. "What we do know is that the genome sequence of the new cases broadly most closely resemble the patterns from the United Kingdom and Australia," he said.

One of the original four worked at Americold, an American temperature-controlled warehouse company. On Thursday, authorities announced that three more Americold staff members had tested positive, and seven of the cases announced Thursday are family members of Americold employees.

Life is full of risks. My personal assessment is that it’s a waste of time given the very low risk of transmission. YMMV and that’s your call!

The new outbreak in NZ looks very likely to have come either from surfaces (packaging), or from the food.

And yet on the very article you quoted from it says:

Authorities are testing surfaces at Americold's warehouse for Covid-19, but Ardern emphasized that the most likely cause of the outbreak was human-to-human transmission. "We are wanting to rule everything out," she said.

For some reason you didn't quote that bit.

@SoupDragon

The new outbreak in NZ looks very likely to have come either from surfaces (packaging), or from the food.

And yet on the very article you quoted from it says:

Authorities are testing surfaces at Americold's warehouse for Covid-19, but Ardern emphasized that the most likely cause of the outbreak was human-to-human transmission. "We are wanting to rule everything out," she said.

For some reason you didn't quote that bit.

I wonder why...

Stopped wiping down groceries about 2 weeks into lockdown 🤷‍♀️

yep and it has been found on food packaging and in food today. I think I always will now, it just seems like good hygiene when you consider how many unwashed hands have picked it up and out it down in a supermarket

Not so much climate change @InDeoEstMeaFiducia. The germ phobes and their need to nuke all germs is going to rob us of. Effective antibiotics too.

The amount of plastic is shocking- gloves, wipes, thousands of cleaning product bottles, bags for decanting.

Single use plastic has almost become the desired alternative.

I still am.

@SockYarn - totally agree!

Authorities are testing surfaces at Americold's warehouse for Covid-19, but Ardern emphasized that the most likely cause of the outbreak was human-to-human transmission. "We are wanting to rule everything out," she said.

For some reason you didn't quote that bit

Because I'm basing my assumption on the evidence presented in the article - there doesn't seem to be any possible way for human-human transmission to have been the initial cause. Ardern may have access to more information on which she is basing her statement. But I don't. And much as I think she is wonderful, I fear that statement sounded a bit like wishful thinking.

I used too much, religiously wash everything, proper decontamination stations 😂. Not now though. I may again if numbers get bad though.

Yes we are. I’m a real worrier & it drives me bananas.

Yes I do wipe down all Items entering my home, doing all I can to minimise risk..had shopping delivered today and asked the delivery person” I the only person doing this?” He said “ no most persons I deliver to are wiping down shopping”

The WHO state that

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions

However, fomite transmission is considered a likely mode of transmission for SARS-CoV-2, given consistent findings about environmental contamination in the vicinity of infected cases and the fact that other coronaviruses and respiratory viruses can transmit this way.

So with groceries - more than likely if there were any virus particles on your items, chances are they will have degraded sufficiently by the time you pick them up. But what if the person in front of you in the aisle just coughed into their hand and picked up your item before putting it back on the shelf? What if the online shopping picker did the same?

We're still wiping down.

Also, since lockdown we've finished a couple of method kitchen spray cleaners and we rinsed out the bottles and refilled them with weak bleach. One sits on our front doorstep, and I give the doorbell and door handle a regular spray, and the other sits on the back doorstep, handy for spraying our wheelie bins.