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Second child - dealing with the GPs

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nicenames · 10/08/2020 13:27

Hi there,

I am writing this thread prepared to be flamed, but this is preying on my mind and I really need some external advice from people who won't sugar their views!!

Right, so I am currently pregnant with second child - 6 months gone. The post birth period is starting to prey on my mind. Specifically, managing the GPs

Last time around, my parents were keen to come to us, asked me when would be helpful for them to come to help and I said when my DH went back to work at 3 weeks. They didn't like this at all (because they wanted to be involved much sooner) and kept asking me, hoping that I would change my view. Then, when baby arrived, they said would it be ok to make a quick trip to see the baby before coming back to help later, to which I said no probs, totally fine. Then they stayed with my in laws, hung around for nearly a week (week 1-2), got their fill of baby cuddles and never came back for the bit that would have been helpful (I had a section, so would have been nice to have someone to help with any lifting around for week 3-4). They also took the baby out at one point in the sling without asking me whilst I was in the shower - basically ambushed my DH who wasn't sure what to say and took her without saying how long they were going for or where. I found the whole time a bit stressful - at the time we were in quite a small rented place, so every until after dinner for a week we had my parents (and sometimes my PIL because my PiL didn't want to be left out) and then they turned up again at breakfast time. I know they meant well but I was in tears by the end of the week - it was just too much having at least four adults weighing in on the baby stuff and being in my space all the time.

I really don't want them to come during my DH's paternity leave this time. We have a bigger space, so I am worried they will expect to stay. Even to help with my toddler because, whilst they are good GPs, they only want to do the fun stuff and aren't really supportive about trying to make healthy meals or routine etc (which is fine in small bursts, but in long stretches I just find I am the bad guy all the time), so I just want to have an unstressful few weeks. Also, my DH is a properly involved parent, I don't actually feel I need anyone else because he really is more than capable of cooking and either looking after a toddler or helping out with the baby. And I would quite like my DD to keep going to pre school if possible, which I don't think she will be so keen on if she has my parents around offering her continuous treats etc.

I am also having a section this time and given the pandemic I don't think they are likely to be able to stay anyway within the rules and it would probably be a good idea to have a few weeks at the start where we are all cautious about letting someone out household hold the baby (and my parents and Pil don't really observe the restrictions that much).

I know that I will be asked about all of this because my parents live a way away and we are going to go on holiday and stay near them for a week so that they can see their GD (I am not truly horrible, promise!!)

Is it awful for me to just say to both sets of grandparents that during my DH's paternity leave they can come and see the baby for a morning/afternoon etc at the weekends early on (but possibly not hold her initially depending on advice given at the time) but then maybe give us a bit of space in the week and visit later if they are allowed to? Obviously, if things go wrong I would have to revise my position, but assuming things are straightforward, is this controlling and weird?

Btw, my plan for the birth is that we hopefully won't need childcare, as my DD will be at pre school until 3pm, so my DH could be with us for the birth and collect her on section day and look after her and come back to the hospital to collect me the next day (the hospital was really very good last time about helping me with baby care in the night I had overnight - I had a HCA coming in every 3 hours to give me paracetamol and ibuprofen in alternation and they just gave me baby for feeding and helped me then). But if it all overruns, then my DS or Mil live close and could help out easily.

Sorry, very long - just don't want to be accused of drip feeding!!

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nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:00

Bump! No one seems to think I am unreasonable :). Or just everyone is thinking it and not saying it!

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MsChatterbox · 10/08/2020 15:03

Oh wow that sounds awful. What's the covid situation like in your area? Could you use this to your advantage? My baby is 7 weeks no one has held her yet. Just doing viewings in the garden.

MistressMounthaven · 10/08/2020 15:05

Tell them the Mwife said that due to the section you should not have anyone in the home unneccessarily due to infection risk (not true btw) - get DH to visit them with DD

1Morewineplease · 10/08/2020 15:07

I don’t think that you’re being at all unreasonable.

Certainly allow them a quick visit and a little cuddle as long as your midwife/doctor says it’s ok.

Taking a new baby out while you’re in the shower was deliberately done , if I’m honest , and this should not be happening again.

All good wishes OP!

billy1966 · 10/08/2020 15:12

Not unreasonable at all.
This is your time.

I think it must be a complete nightmare to have people all day like that when you have just had a baby and not even helpful.

The suit themselves.
Do the same.

Stick to your guns.

hellywelly3 · 10/08/2020 15:16

I think you need to spell it out to them. Write a letter to both sets explaining what you want

nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:18

Thank you! It is just so reassuring to hear that people don't think I am a horrible person, as my interactions with my parents are very loaded and I get a lot of guilt coming my way, so I sort of end up feeling resentful and trampled over but like an awful daughter at the same time! It's not that I don't want to see them, but I am quite a private person and I do need a bit of space and a bit of a say over my surroundings, otherwise I feel a bit suffocated.

Basically, I feel that I do try with my parents and do want them to be involved in my DD's life - they are good people and I know they love me, but I do also feel that they want to do as they wish in order to get their chosen GP experience and will put that over my wants or needs (and, actually, by extension the wants and needs of their GC really, because some of the things that I disagree with them on are things that I think are good for my DD - she is still a small child, so routine (and I am not even particularly strict or rigid) is not just "boring square controlling mum", but actually quite helpful for her as well as me)!

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MeridianB · 10/08/2020 15:20

OP, YADNBU!

First of all, sit with your DH and share your thoughts and concerns and make a plan together. Then make it happen.

How far do both sets live?

Is there any way either set would listen and understand if you explained to them?

altiara · 10/08/2020 15:21

YANBU. You’ll need time to recover from surgery and all of you to bond with baby.

Pleatherandlace · 10/08/2020 15:22

They sound like a pain in the arse. Stick to your guns but don’t be wishy washy with the plans. Tell them which day/morning/afternoon suits you for a quick visit and stick to it. Don’t be railroaded into having them come and go as they fancy. If they can’t make the time that is convenient to you say “never mind” ( then switch your phone off).
A section is major abdominal surgery, why don’t people treat it as such and give women a break!

nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:22

Btw, my parents did buy and cook dinner for us a few times, so it wasn't that they expected to be waited on for meals, but I don't really feel that this really makes up for being around and in my space ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!

Thank you, I feel so much better even for writing this out. My PIL will probably be quite a bit easier - I think they just want a few short visits and some pictures at the early stages really (they are actually not that interested in tiny kids, they love the stage my DD is at now because it is more interactive), just my parents who are a bit much!

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user1493413286 · 10/08/2020 15:25

When I had my second baby grandparents came to meet him at the hospital and then we made it clear that we wanted DHs paternity leave for us as a family to bond and that we’d welcome visits again after he went back to work. My mum lives a distance away so care and stayed in a hotel to meet him then stayed with us to help when DH went back to work. I felt that was perfectly fair to be honest; I know it’s a big moment for grandparents but equally they’ve had their children and I wanted to do it in the way I felt was best for my little family

nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:30

Oh and my parents live a day's travelling away but do have a flat still where I grew up which they have just bought and is about 90mins away, so it is feasible for them to stay there or even to stay with my DSis who is a 20 min drive away (would prefer further if I am honest, as otherwise they will spend all their time with us, but if they spent Saturday night there and popped in for a short visit on a Saturday and Sunday or took my DD to the park for a bit or whatever that would be fine I think).

I think I will just say short visits on a Saturday or Sunday initially and take it from there. Hopefully my DD will be at pre school for part of most weekdays, so we can pick her up and spoil her a bit with attention after having some time to wrangle with just the baby and I can have some daytime sleep if I need it. And yes, if I feel I just need to sit in bed, naked from the waist up trying to establish bf then I want to feel I can do so, no questions asked :)!

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nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:31

@user1493413286

That sounds perfect and exactly what I want.

Ok, you have all convinced me. Fab! I shall set out my stall firmly but nicely without poisoning our holiday!

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nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:32

Oh and my PIL are about 40 mins away.

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MeridianB · 10/08/2020 15:43

I recommend you be specific with them. A short visit for you probably means an hour but to them is probably two thirds of a day!

Minai · 10/08/2020 15:46

Not unreasonable at all. It’s up to you but you could have them come for a quick visit when the baby is born and then no visits for a couple of weeks? I know how you feel. My MIL acted appallingly after my first was born, was completely smothering and overbearing with the baby, wouldn’t let me hold him the entire time she was visiting and acted as if I was nothing but a surrogate for her grandchild. I believe she played a large part in me developing pnd and couldn’t bond with the baby. With my second I was determined she wasn’t going to do that and we said no to visitors for 2 weeks and drastically cut down the amount of time they wanted to visit after that (DH agreed completely) and consequently I had a much happier postnatal period. Stick up for yourself. Anyone that complains can moan all they like but you are the one looking after a tiny while recovering from giving birth and they need to respect your wishes on this.

Ticklemelmo · 10/08/2020 15:53

You'd be completely unreasonable to allow it! I completely understand the stress.
I had a section but we went into lockdown as soon as I got out of hospital. I'm actually grateful we did because it gave us the time we wanted and I'll do the same next time.
If you can't use cv19 as an excuse by then, just use the excuse that you want the time to bond as a family. Let them have a paddy if they want.

altogirl · 10/08/2020 15:57

Because of Covid, I wouldn't allow anyone except hubby in your home until the baby is at least 6-8 weeks old. If they want to see baby, you can hold him/her up at a window.

Babies immune systems are not developed at birth and I just wouldn't want to take a chance.

If the GPs fuss about your rules, too bad. Your baby, your rules.

nicenames · 10/08/2020 15:59

Thank you all!

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nicenames · 10/08/2020 16:01

@altogirl

Hubby and DD! I am still hoping that DD can go to pre school as I think she will need the stimulation, but we will see how it goes.

But I agree, probably best to be cautious about interactions with baby.

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